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When I was a kid we never had drought after drought. Then we started with daylight saving. We started with a little bit, but now we have six months of the year daylight saving. It has just become too much for the environment to cope with.

It is so logical, for six months of the year we have an extra hour
each day of that hot afternoon sun.

I read somewhere that scientific studies had shown there is a lot less moisture in the atmosphere which means we get less rain. I believe this one hour extra sun is slowly evaporating all the moisture out of everything. Why can't the Government do studies on this, or better still, get rid of daylight savings.

They have to do something before it is too late.
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[Quote from wikipedia] [During his time as an American envoy to France, Benjamin Franklin, author of the proverb, "Early to bed, and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise", anonymously published a letter suggesting that Parisians economize on candles by rising earlier to use morning sunlight.[14] This 1784 satire proposed taxing shutters, rationing candles, and waking the public by ringing church bells and firing cannons at sunrise. Franklin did not propose DST; like ancient Rome, 18th-century Europe did not keep accurate schedules. However, this soon changed as rail and communication networks came to require a standardization of time unknown in Franklin's day."]

I knew it! It's Deep Fat's fault!
First, Sarah is hot. That's enough.

Second, DST is only the first of the many problems we must face. Another is CO2 buildup in the atmosphere which is a direct cause of our current banking crisis.

I propose we only inhale. Never exhale. That will lower CO2 amounts by 1.874 Blingillion tons per hour.

Do your part today.

And, don't forget: Send a Dollar to Deepfat.


DF
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anonymously published a letter suggesting that Parisians economize on candles by rising earlier to use morning sunlight.


Ol' Ben was a genius far ahead of his time. I really thought I had a new idea.

Doesn't anyone besides me find it amazing that some of the greatest minds of science have not caught on to the fact that this extra hour of daylight could explain global warming?

That's, like, 5% more daylight per day which directly correlates with the same percentage of increase in global temperatures.
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Originally posted by skeptic:
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anonymously published a letter suggesting that Parisians economize on candles by rising earlier to use morning sunlight.


Ol' Ben was a genius far ahead of his time. I really thought I had a new idea.

Doesn't anyone besides me find it amazing that some of the greatest minds of science have not caught on to the fact that this extra hour of daylight could explain global warming?

That's, like, 5% more daylight per day which directly correlates with the same percentage of increase in global temperatures.


Skeptic,

Please tell me you are joking here, I have giggled my @$$ off throughout this entire thread but, now, I am feeling bad for laughing at someone who may actually believe it....

Michael
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Originally posted by DeepFat:
No doubt about it. Bio-luminescent Sea Monkeys are the answer to all mankind's energy needs.


DF


That or lightening bugs. If we squished enough, maybe we could do away with light bulbs. Eventually, they would become extinct from over-harvesting. Since they only come out in the summer, summer wouldn't exist anymore, and there wouldn't be as much heat. Global warming solved!!!!! Squish lightening bugs!
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Originally posted by skeptic:
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lease tell me you are joking here, I


Sir,

Are you accusing me of stealing this from this site?

Link

Fisticuffs! Put 'em up!


Would you like to explain what your arguement has to do with this link? The people against this link are saying they don't want the extra hour of daylight in the evening (the beach flag issue). What they don't mention is they loose an hour of daylight in the morning Eeker , which is how Daylight Savings works. You don't get an extra hour of daylight, you get daylight an hour later in the day (and dark an hour later in the morning).

But please, feel free to post your own explanation, I could use the laugh after this week in the market....
Back in the early seventies, when he had our FIRST energy crisis and gasoline got all the way up to 53 cents a gallon, Daylight Saving Time got extended throughout the winter. (Somehow it was supposed to save big bucks in heating and lighting schools.)

Then, some ****-fool US Senator went on a tear, saying we needed to put the clocks "back like God make them".

Like God invented clocks. SHEESH!!!
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Originally posted by mekirk2:
Would you like to explain what your arguement has to do with this link? The people against this link are saying they don't want the extra hour of daylight in the evening (the beach flag issue). What they don't mention is they loose an hour of daylight in the morning Eeker , which is how Daylight Savings works. You don't get an extra hour of daylight, you get daylight an hour later in the day (and dark an hour later in the morning).

But please, feel free to post your own explanation, I could use the laugh after this week in the market....


I think you answered your own question there.

If you trade a cool morning hour for a steamy late afternoon hour, of course you're adding unneccessary heat.

It's sad more people don't care about something so important yet easily remedied.
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Originally posted by mekirk2:
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Originally posted by skeptic:
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lease tell me you are joking here, I


Sir,

Are you accusing me of stealing this from this site?

Link

Fisticuffs! Put 'em up!


Would you like to explain what your arguement has to do with this link? The people against this link are saying they don't want the extra hour of daylight in the evening (the beach flag issue). What they don't mention is they loose an hour of daylight in the morning Eeker , which is how Daylight Savings works. You don't get an extra hour of daylight, you get daylight an hour later in the day (and dark an hour later in the morning).

But please, feel free to post your own explanation, I could use the laugh after this week in the market....

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Gee...you make it sound so easy a caveman could understand it!

(okay, just to clarify: I'm not agreeing per say... simply commenting on his avatar)
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Originally posted by 33rd:
I think you answered your own question there.

If you trade a cool morning hour for a steamy late afternoon hour, of course you're adding unneccessary heat.

It's sad more people don't care about something so important yet easily remedied.


Huh? The afternoon heat would still be there, it would just be at a different time? What is it that makes anyone believe that changing the time would change the temperature outside???

If anything, it is thought to save energy and reduce emissions due to that saved energy. Instead of the sun coming up at 5 am (when alot of folks are still asleep) and going down at 6pm, it would come up at 6am and go down at 7pm. There are more people awake from 6pm to 7pm than there are from 5am to 6am, so, the thought process is that from 6pm to 7pm less electricity is used for lighting because the sun is still up for that hour.

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Michael
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Originally posted by 33rd:
If you trade a cool morning hour for a steamy late afternoon hour, of course you're adding unneccessary heat.

It's sad more people don't care about something so important yet easily remedied.


I've got a very simple experiment for you. It should only take you a second. Tomorrow, when you get up, set your watch back an hour (to regular, non DST time). At 5 pm (DST time) I want you to go outside and see what the temperature is. Write it down. Immediately look at your watch. It should say 4pm (just as if we were not observing DST as you want). Look and see what the temperature is. Now write it down.

How much cooler was it at 4pm by your watch (not observing DST) than at 5pm my time (observing DST)?

Michael
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Originally posted by mekirk2:
I've got a very simple experiment for you. It should only take you a second. Tomorrow, when you get up, set your watch back an hour (to regular, non DST time). At 5 pm (DST time) I want you to go outside and see what the temperature is. Write it down. Immediately look at your watch. It should say 4pm (just as if we were not observing DST as you want). Look and see what the temperature is. Now write it down.

How much cooler was it at 4pm by your watch (not observing DST) than at 5pm my time (observing DST)?

Michael

I'm willing to try, but I scarcely think one person can make a measurable difference.

That's the point of changing it nationwide. We all do our little part.
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Originally posted by 33rd:

I'm willing to try, but I scarcely think one person can make a measurable difference.

That's the point of changing it nationwide. We all do our little part.


I absolutely promise you that if every single person in America did this at the same time, they will get the same results that you will get tomorrow. I bet my own life on it.

Michael
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Originally posted by skeptic:
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Is 33rd serious or am I trying to explain this to a troll?


Of course he is serious!

You are obviously not very scientific, Mekirk!

Anyone with an quality education from any Alabama school should understand that an extra hour of daylight should increase the global temperature!

You must not be from Alabama?


Since you started this nonsense, I have to assume that you think the same thing. Like I said earlier, you are not getting an extra hour of daylight. That is not what daylight savings time does. It moves the period of time the sun is up to an hour later in the day. The sun is up the same number of hours, so you don't get any extra time. It just comes up an hour later and sets an hour later.

Seriously.....

Michael
what I can't figure out is this. I understand that the working folks want to have enough daylight hours after work in the evenings to work in the yard, garden fish etc.. but why must everybody turn their clocks back??? why don't every body just show up for work earlier. for instance if you usualy go in at seven. your boss can say "alright, everybody start showing up for work at six instesd of seven" Is the same thing except everyone don't have to run around changing clocks. you are still showing up one hour earlier but the clocks reflecks that you are showing at six rather than 7

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