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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
VP,
I cannot disagree with you that this forum is a mockery. After all, it is a forum about religion.
It serves to lay bare the motivations and underlying reasons for faith or lack thereof. In that right, it is useful. And, to the TD's credit, necessary, especially in the Evangelical South.
The presupposed (and not without reason) inclination of Southerners to be not only religious, but nutty religious, is a hindrance and a disgrace to the South. It is not without foundation, in that some 80% of the South considers itself "evangelical/Fundamentalist" in nature. Still, the 20% of rational people must be heard.
Disgraceful, indeed, and the sooner we reform ourselves, the better off we will be.
WI
If we keep "reforming" ourselves, America will continue it's downward moral slide into oblivion. Even a blind man can see that the more Godless our nation becomes the less peace we have.
You drive out Christianity only to be replaced by Islam. Look at Europe for proof of that.
Mr. H,
You'll be interested to see this graph. It's a per capita graph of murder by country.
http://www.nationmaster.com/gr...i-crime-total-crimesNote the USA is at the top, and this a country where 85% of people claim to be Christian.
Countries where religion is taken much less seriously are farther down the list, like Sweden and Japan.
However, Qatar, Albania, and Yemen, largely or entirely Muslim countries, don't even register.
So, can we agree that Christianity does not lead to morality? Would we be better off if more of us were Muslim?
not trying to start another aspect to this argument, just a brief interjection.. a quick side thought, if you will...just a coupel of points.
while it may be true that murder is far down on the list in those countries, so is the value of human life.
this is most true in the muslim countries. what we might list as murder, they merely call "justified punishment because i saw her kissing a man she wasn't married to."
if afghanistan, before ew wandered over, women were killed, in a public stadium, if they were found teaching their daughters how to read.
to me, this was murder, to them is wasn't.
so i think some of the discrepency might be attributed to the definition of murder.
not all of it, i'm not trying to say that, i'm just thinking it's possible that things like this might make the gap bigger that is really is.
with that said, no, christianty does not automatically lead to morality - but neither does it prevent morality.
just like any other label that can apply to people, some are moral, some are not, and not all who claim the label christian really are.
haven't we learned recently that there are some peopel who claimed to be vietnam vets, only to find out they spent the entire war in a office in denver because their father was friends with a senator or things liek that? just cause they said they were combat vets didn't mean it was true. Like Puppy says - you cna call a waffle a wombat, but you'll still get bitten if you try to put butter and syrup on it.
ignore what people call themselves, and watch thier actions. words matter little, actions tell all, as we've seen with our elected fearless leader.