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FirenzeVeritas made this comment in another topic that got me to thinking.

"Yesterday Semi entered uninvited into a discussion between Bill and me--that is something she often does."

 

When a topic is started, I’ve assumed it’s for anyone to enter into the discussion.

Are we supposed to wait to be invited to a discussion before commenting? If someone specially is ask a question, are we allowed to give our opinion or do we stay out of it until invited?

 

If this is the rule, should it not be followed by everyone instead of just a select few?

 

I have seen Bill, many times, jump uninvited into many discussions. Usually making fun of us or using his silly cartoons that he plays with to get a rude point across.

Why didn’t Firenze mention Bill entering a discussion uninvited? Even herself or anyone else here?

 

As much as I can know, I believe the majority of you are good decent people. I don't care if you're an Atheist, unbeliever, Christian or what you call yourself. It's all about how you treat others. I don't beat around the bush as Firenze accused me of doing a few days ago. I've made it plain several times how I see things. I'm blunt & a couple of times I have backtracked & apologized. I have no problem doing that when I see I'm wrong about something.

I would love to get your opinions & will not be offended if you want to give me some constructive criticism.

Oh, & just to clarify, all of you are invited to enter into this discussion, even Firenze & Bill.

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Semi, I made that remark not because you entered in, but because you took it upon yourself to inform readers of how I would possibly feel about the topic. Unless you are psychic, you cannot possibly know how I would feel on any subject. The forum is for all, and I don't mind your entering any discussion I start--just please don't put words in my mouth.

I guess you know what I think. This is a public forum and if people starting threads don't want comments from certain people they need to make a private, invitation only, forum of their own. I think some of them want some people to respond just so they can whine that their threads are being "hijacked" or taken over. I have never posted a thread that was meant only for an atheist to read or comment on. It may be a thread that only an atheist would be interested in but I couldn't care less who reads and responds. IF I did, I would take my own advice and start a private forum.

 

I don't get bent out of shape if posters drift away from the original theme because that is what people tend to do in real life. "One thing leads to another" so to speak. Sometimes someone will post something so bizarre that someone might ask what that has to do with anything, but other than that I understand how "conversations" go from one thing to another. Now I do think it's silly when bill runs and makes another thread because he thinks the one going is getting too much attention.  Despite what some posters claim, I don't post under all the threads. But that isn't because I don't think I have the right, it's because the subject of the thread doesn't interest me.

 

Blunt is fine. When you feel a certain way about something it is absolutely fine to say it. You shouldn't feel you have to change the way you think, or think you have to  pretend to be someone you aren't just to please people on a newspaper forum. It's like I tried to tell frog, we are all grownups and when you come to a public forum you are going to be interacting with as many different personalities as there are posters.

Right on, BW.

 I'd drink to that....if I drank.

 

I look at it this way- If I walk into a bar and yell out "MAN! I think christian fundies totally suck and here's why....!"  I'd expect every christian in the place to have offered some kinda opinion just as loudly inside of eight seconds-fundy or not.

 

Oh...wait....I might not FIND any in a bar 'round these parts.....nebbermind.

 

Then again.....it just might be full of baptists.

 

I reckon you could ask that a thread be to/for a specific person or group in the title, but that's no guarantee. When you're in public, there's no reasonable expectation of privacy.

If you hang it out there-somebody's gonna say something about it.

PM if ya want privacy-(hence the "P" in PM.)

I find that those who object to others who enter a topic "uninvited" often (though not by any means always) object because they did not expect to get their plows cleaned by some compelling argument posted by the "uninvited" person. Thus, they weasel away in an attempt--usually unsuccessful--to confine the discussion to themselves and those they think they can prevail against.

 

I agree that those who want to have a private two-person dialogue need to skedaddle away from the open forum and enter a private discussion.  And--they should stop acting as though they have the right to control entry into the former.

Originally Posted by Contendah:

I find that those who object to others who enter a topic "uninvited" often (though not by any means always) object because they did not expect to get their plows cleaned by some compelling argument posted by the "uninvited" person. Thus, they weasel away in an attempt--usually unsuccessful--to confine the discussion to themselves and those they think they can prevail against.

 

I agree that those who want to have a private two-person dialogue need to skedaddle away from the open forum and enter a private discussion.  And--they should stop acting as though they have the right to control entry into the former.


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OK, I agree with contendah, gotta call 911.

Hi Chick,

 

My understanding of what Firenze meant was that when someone specifically addresses a question to a specific person -- we should all allow that person to answer first, before we jump into the middle of the dialogue. 

 

If I ask, "Chick, what do you think of _______________ ?" -- that question is asking Chick what she thinks of this issue.  It is not asking what Jennifer thinks, or what Crusty thinks, or what anyone else thinks about this particular issue.  It is specifically asking Chick.

 

Proper etiquette would be to allow Chick to answer first.  And, then others might want to offer their take on the issue -- after Chick has responded to the question asked of her.

 

This, in my understanding, is the issue that Firenze is addressing -- and I believe her point is valid.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Firenze, I copied what I meant to copy. And you are trying to prove what by copying the rest of it? It has nothing to do with my topic. You have never tried to be civil to me.

I will say this & then I’m though. Shall I copy the post here that you made to me when you put words in my mouth? There’s really no need for it since one of them can be easily found in the topic “Ultimate wickedness”.

 

You judged me as being an Atheist as though that's a nasty thing to be. I got news for you. The Atheist here have a much kinder heart than you would ever dream of having.

We’re getting no where with this & I’m sure the others here are getting tired of it.

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