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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by vplee123:
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
God gave every person "free will" -- and He will not force anyone to do His will. If He will not force us to follow Him, which is the most important decision in our life -- we know He would not force any other decision upon us.
However, and this is the real kicker -- He is omniscient, meaning there is nothing He does not know -- from eternity past to eternity future. So, He foreknew that Mary would not say no -- just as He knew that Adam would disobey Him.
Of course he did. And so he prepared well, by allowing her to be sinless-conceived without sin. In order to be the perfect vessel in which to carry the baby Jesus..... The point being, Mary had an integral role to play in our salvation.
Hi VP,
And, ONCE AGAIN, I ask you -- show us that in Scripture. If you can show us, in the Bible, that Mary was sinless -- I will believe you.
Otherwise, you are blowing smoke -- and not even "holy smoke"! For Mary was not born sinless, Mary was conceived through the sexual relationship of her parents -- just like you and me, Mary was not sinless, and Mary died and went to heaven -- just like all Christian believers, all saints. And, she is there with the other billions of saints awaiting her immortal body -- which she will receive at the Rapture, along with all other Christian believers, i.e., saints.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
ok.. correct me if i am wrong here....
lets say mary parents were both virgins.
lets say the first time they consummated their marriage they produced mary.
if their parents were not engaging in sin to produce mary, wouldn't thta make mary a sinless conception?
or are you goin to tell us that nookie is inherently sinful?
if that's is the case, then i'm going straight to hell, because my wife and i sin often.
and if that is a sin, then i welcome it, and have no remorse and ask for no redemption.
if your god seeks to punish us for expressing our love physically, then yours is a god i want nothing to do with.
the God i have faith in loves us, wants us to be happy, and that's one of the reasons He invented sex - to bring happiness to His creations.
you can have such a spiteful, hateful god. you're welcome to him.
i'll continue on with my God and continue to be happy.