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today i was buying a few things in a local department store. there was a man and his wife ahead of me. he was buying alcohol. the cashier asked for id and asked for her supervisor, explaining to the man she is not old enough to sell the alcohol, someone of age must ring it up. the man got upset with her supervisor as well, started saying he was a cop with Killen (he was in uniform) and there was no reason to card him, he had his badge and they were idiots. he pulled his badge out and started getting very ugly with the young cashier. told her they were setting up roadblocks everywhere this weekend and all this stuff about how she better not come through it. now the wife was as nice as could be. the cashier was almost in tears. i felt extremely bad for the little girl, told her not to worry about people like that, but on the other hand, i regret not saying what was on my mind to that gentleman. what would you guys have done?
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The man you saw was no gentleman. He was a rude, obnoxious, and ignorant boar.

You did the right thing by giving consolation to the cashier. Smarting off to the cop would not have helped the situation any. He would have only gotten worse.

Since this officer was in uniform, I would have went one step further and called the Chief of Police out in Killen. His name is Mark Parker and he can be reached at 757-5555 (the police department). I'm sure he'd like to hear how his officers are representing his department.
This young lady was following the rules she works by, I am sure this Jerk has rules he has to or should follow with his work . Or maybe when if only if he feels like it that day. Yes call Killen report this , this maybe a case where this not a"gentlemen" Officer has had other complains on his record, and this maybe the very one that gets his Job. If no one ever reports people actions as this and the treat of hoping she doesn't come thru his roadblock . that has crossed the line for any officer. We have some wonderfull Law inforcement , but ones as this Yes Need to be Reported, maybe nothing done to him first time, but this may not be his first time to be reported .
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Originally posted by Skiddles_98:
today i was buying a few things in a local department store. there was a man and his wife ahead of me. he was buying alcohol. the cashier asked for id and asked for her supervisor, explaining to the man she is not old enough to sell the alcohol, someone of age must ring it up. the man got upset with her supervisor as well, started saying he was a cop with Killen (he was in uniform) and there was no reason to card him, he had his badge and they were idiots. he pulled his badge out and started getting very ugly with the young cashier. told her they were setting up roadblocks everywhere this weekend and all this stuff about how she better not come through it. now the wife was as nice as could be. the cashier was almost in tears. i felt extremely bad for the little girl, told her not to worry about people like that, but on the other hand, i regret not saying what was on my mind to that gentleman. what would you guys have done?



This all smells like BS to me. It sounds more like you have a grudge against the Killen PD than anything. But what you can do, if this actually happen, is go to the police department and file a complaint with the Chief. Calling and whinning will do nothing....anyone can call and whine about anything they want. But if you'll swear to a complaint, something will be done.

What was the officers name? You said he was in uniform so he had a nametag.
I also agree with gracies old man that he might be the officer in question with the way he has worded his responses and the evidence was in the initial post in detail.

I would call the police chief.

Also, if he acted this way in public and his wife was as nice as she could be I can only imagine how horrible her life must be at home behind closed doors.
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Originally posted by gracies old man:
Joe-

You are acting like you might be the officer in question. You seem to be doing an investigation by the tone of your questioning.

Skiddles DID focus on the evidence in the initial post and did it in detail.

What in particular leads you to believe there was any grudge?


No, I am NOT the officer in question. The thing that smells like BS to me is the simple fact that that she said the officer in question was "in uniform". Then she proceeded to say that he "took out" his badge. Last time I checked, officer wear their badge on their uniforms. Yes I know most of the officers at KIllen, and I don't believe it for a minute. I can assure you, if Skittles files a complain, (which I doubt she will) Chief Parker will handles it swiftly and harshly.

Talk is cheap ad slander is easy. I say, file a complaint with the department.
Joe, the cops have a badge on their uniform and they also have a little wallet looking thing with their badge and photo ID in it. This is why parents tell their kids "don't open the door just because they say they are the police. Ask to see their badge and ID card".

I used to know all of the cops in Killen, back when it was Butch, Mark, Greg, and Mike (thanks for all the tickets guys!). Now the only ones I know are Mark, Brian, and Terry. Not sure who else is out there? But I'm sure Mark could figure out which officer it was by getting a description and looking at the schedule.
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Originally posted by ^PuF^:
....maybe you're the officer's wife and your taking up for your husband because you're afraid of him....


I'm not "taking up" for anyone. I think she should put her money where her mouth is. It's easy to get on here and badmouth someone. I think she should file a complaint with the department, or even with the attorney general if she's afraid to go to the department. You can believe what you like...I believe in the evidence
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Originally posted by Skiddles_98:
today i was buying a few things in a local department store. there was a man and his wife ahead of me. he was buying alcohol. the cashier asked for id and asked for her supervisor, explaining to the man she is not old enough to sell the alcohol, someone of age must ring it up. the man got upset with her supervisor as well, started saying he was a cop with Killen (he was in uniform) and there was no reason to card him, he had his badge and they were idiots. he pulled his badge out and started getting very ugly with the young cashier. told her they were setting up roadblocks everywhere this weekend and all this stuff about how she better not come through it. now the wife was as nice as could be. the cashier was almost in tears. i felt extremely bad for the little girl, told her not to worry about people like that, but on the other hand, i regret not saying what was on my mind to that gentleman. what would you guys have done?


I agree with TSC. Call the Killen police dept. and speak to the chief. I suggest you write down everything you can remember about the incident, including the place, date and time. If the place does have cameras, he can then contact the store to view the tape if he so desires.

If the cop is underage, he should not be trying to purchase alcohol. He swore to uphold the law. If he flashed his badge and tried to use his position to intimidate someone into breaking the law, he should be removed from the police force.
If it happened just as described, I think the store manager should also call the Police Chief.

Maybe if the young woman had sold the alcohol after he bullied her, he would have accused her of being underage and selling alcohol?

Tell us what store it was. (If you have already, excuse me..I read all the posts but sometimes I miss things.)
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
The surveillance camera idea is great. Skiddles should either give a time frame - even on the forum- or LET IT GO! It is hard to lie anymore about anything because of modern technology. I am sure the police chief will ask you what time the incident occured.


technology....if you still have your store receipt it will give Mark Parker the aprox. time and will probably also identify the cashier.
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Originally posted by Skiddles_98:
today i was buying a few things in a local department store. there was a man and his wife ahead of me. he was buying alcohol. the cashier asked for id and asked for her supervisor, explaining to the man she is not old enough to sell the alcohol, someone of age must ring it up. the man got upset with her supervisor as well, started saying he was a cop with Killen (he was in uniform) and there was no reason to card him, he had his badge and they were idiots. he pulled his badge out and started getting very ugly with the young cashier. told her they were setting up roadblocks everywhere this weekend and all this stuff about how she better not come through it. now the wife was as nice as could be. the cashier was almost in tears. i felt extremely bad for the little girl, told her not to worry about people like that, but on the other hand, i regret not saying what was on my mind to that gentleman. what would you guys have done?


Ya know, this kinda stuff NEVER happens around me. I'd absolutely love to tear into this obnoxious dork. It especially irks the hell out of me when someone whips out a badge as if that is some sort of magical "don't F with me" talisman.

I wish you had gotten the badge number. Since you didn't, how 'bout a description so that we will all know who this is?
They did not get a badge number, and so far I have seen no indication that they are even going to do anything. How hard would it be to go to Killen PD and point him out? Apparently they are not too torn up about it or they would not be on here posting they would have gone to the KPD ASAP. So I tend to agree with Joe, this might be someone just out to cause a stir.... So to the person that started this post, are you going to do anything or are you just talking smack? Just curious.
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Originally posted by Skiddles_98:
today i was buying a few things in a local department store. there was a man and his wife ahead of me. he was buying alcohol. the cashier asked for id and asked for her supervisor, explaining to the man she is not old enough to sell the alcohol, someone of age must ring it up. the man got upset with her supervisor as well, started saying he was a cop with Killen (he was in uniform) and there was no reason to card him, he had his badge and they were idiots. he pulled his badge out and started getting very ugly with the young cashier. told her they were setting up roadblocks everywhere this weekend and all this stuff about how she better not come through it. now the wife was as nice as could be. the cashier was almost in tears. i felt extremely bad for the little girl, told her not to worry about people like that, but on the other hand, i regret not saying what was on my mind to that gentleman. what would you guys have done?


Maybe you should post this in the " If you open this thread, you are in. " thread.
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Originally posted by DeepFat:
I don't think his being in uniform precludes him from legal acts.


DF


I wish I were a cop where I could do “legal acts” such as this several times a day.

Come on Deep anyone could come up with a designer idea about any situation.

Why must you always try to make everything appear “Californish”.

Get back in the “Beemer”
sorry, long post, and i dont get online everyday to respond quicker. i didnt know this would be controversial, i was just looking for advice. just so you know, i dont know any killen pd or florence pd for that matter. ive never gotten a ticket or been to court. i was not trying to speak badly of anyone. i know most of these guys work hard for their pay and protect our streets. i am usually very passive and thats why i asked. maybe this guy was usually super nice, volunteered, a1 cop, and just having a bad day. i give everyone the benefit of the doubt. to the gentlemen who asked about the badge: the guy asked if the cashier needed badge number, etc. and whipped out of his pocket and then got id out. he also said when he was growing up he never showed id for checks or to buy alcohol. the cashier even showed him she could not bypass the system by trying it in front of him with the screen turned to him. so... here's the update: after reading the first couple of posts and speaking with my husband, i decided to call the store and speak with the manager. the mgr got a statement from me, a desription, my receipt id with the date and time, and a statement from the cashier and her supervisor, whom had already spoken to the mgr about the situation. the security team was supposed to look the guy up on their cameras and follow up from there. the mgr said if it was someone on a one time thing, usually they ask them to leave the store. if it repeats again, they will escort him out permanently and speak with the appropriate people. everyone was really nice about it. i know some of you will probably beat me up about my decision, but like my granny said "everybody gets ONE". i hope if i act that way someone would give me the BOD. and am i scared of the police, going to them? honestly, yes, but then again, just typing about things in this forum scared me to death. im a pansy Smiler i thought i could ask people for some direction because sometimes things that seem big arent. i didnt know my integrity would be at stake. i dont understand why some people think i would lie about something so serious as someones career and means of life. i apologize if i offended anyone affiliated with the police dept. that was not my intention. and if Mr. Mark/Terry do read these forums, i welcome their comments as well.
You did the right thing, Skiddles. Everyone can have a bad day and everyone can show their butt. That does not excuse the behavior and it does not make it right. When an officer is in uniform s/he knows that they are held to a higher standard. If they can't handle that standard, then police work may not be the job for them. Better that they learn now!

Hope you have a great weekend!!! I'll be out on the river in a canoe with family & friends! Woo hoo!!!
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Originally posted by JoeMerchant:
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Originally posted by Skiddles_98:
today i was buying a few things in a local department store. there was a man and his wife ahead of me. he was buying alcohol. the cashier asked for id and asked for her supervisor, explaining to the man she is not old enough to sell the alcohol, someone of age must ring it up. the man got upset with her supervisor as well, started saying he was a cop with Killen (he was in uniform) and there was no reason to card him, he had his badge and they were idiots. he pulled his badge out and started getting very ugly with the young cashier. told her they were setting up roadblocks everywhere this weekend and all this stuff about how she better not come through it. now the wife was as nice as could be. the cashier was almost in tears. i felt extremely bad for the little girl, told her not to worry about people like that, but on the other hand, i regret not saying what was on my mind to that gentleman. what would you guys have done?



This all smells like BS to me. It sounds more like you have a grudge against the Killen PD than anything. But what you can do, if this actually happen, is go to the police department and file a complaint with the Chief. Calling and whinning will do nothing....anyone can call and whine about anything they want. But if you'll swear to a complaint, something will be done.

What was the officers name? You said he was in uniform so he had a nametag.


Have I missed something here? Was the officer underage? OR, the cashier selling the alcohol underage? I am not understanding this.
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Originally posted by JoeMerchant:
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Originally posted by gracies old man:
Joe-

You are acting like you might be the officer in question. You seem to be doing an investigation by the tone of your questioning.

Skiddles DID focus on the evidence in the initial post and did it in detail.

What in particular leads you to believe there was any grudge?


No, I am NOT the officer in question. The thing that smells like BS to me is the simple fact that that she said the officer in question was "in uniform". Then she proceeded to say that he "took out" his badge. Last time I checked, officer wear their badge on their uniforms. Yes I know most of the officers at KIllen, and I don't believe it for a minute. I can assure you, if Skittles files a complain, (which I doubt she will) Chief Parker will handles it swiftly and harshly.

Talk is cheap ad slander is easy. I say, file a complaint with the department.


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