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Who are those Journalists making the Offers to FBI members?  Who!!!! ....

The Department of Justice inspector general identified a number of instances where FBI employees regularly spoke with members of the (Liberal) media and received a number of free perks from journalists including meals and tickets to various events.

Question: Does this pertain to  Rank & File Workers of FBI or the Big Boy Elites in Obama era FBI or Both? Was this to STOP Trump for being Elected President, much like Bernie & Democrats where the Fix was In against Bernie vs Hillary?

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06...-bribed-journalists/

Old Saying : There's something "Rotten in Denmark"...

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I would venture to say that most Americans would be appalled and surprised if they knew the scope of corruption within Government in Washington.  Those jobs in the Justice Department (FBI, Homeland Security, etc, as well as other departments in/under the Executive branch, are supposed to be non-political but as Trump has said, or indicated, the swamp is deep.  The last Administration certainly used the IRS and parts of the Justice Department for political purposes or as some say weaponized the departments for political retaliation.  Lois Learner and employees of the IRS used their positions to deny and keep Tea Party members and groups from obtaining tax-free status to enable them to better receive and obtain donations.   There is also no doubt, from information being released, even today, that many people in the Justice Department plotted against Trump and attempted to keep him from being elected and once elected are working, actively, to see him removed from office.  It's as close to a coup as you are going to get.

The things we don't know or never hear about I'm sure are also shocking or would be.  Imagine what goes on and happens in many of the covert agencies where, in many cases, there is no, or little, oversight or if there is any it's kept buried very deep inside Government agencies where no public access is allowed to see reports or information due to their covert nature.  Agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and National Security Agency (NSA).  People can only guess or speculate what all may be going on.

I seem to be leaning in my thinking every day, more & more, that the deck is stacked against Trump throughout the executive level of Government Departments. Entrenchments by some are worse than others. The IRS situation was a prime example of a Bureaucratic Basis system working it magic of Stonewalling some groups(conservatives) in favor of another group (Liberals),  The IRS failed to show it can be fair and impartial to party status for those filings for non-profit status. Receiving approvals; conservatives (10%)  liberals (100%) group approvals. If a Democrat group filing for non-profit status, the IRS streamlined to approval. If a Republican conservative group filed, often IRS would send forms back at the last minute requesting additional detailed information. Sometimes get lost or denied all together. Thus have to resubmit forms, beginning the process all over again. Delay, delay, delay and some groups gave up all together as time was running out.  Apparently, the FBI is no Different than the IRS example of being Non-Compliant to Impartiality. Favoring liberal party groups over conservative groups.

River Runner posted:

I seem to be leaning in my thinking every day, more & more, that the deck is stacked against Trump throughout the executive level of Government Departments. Entrenchments by some are worse than others. The IRS situation was a prime example of a Bureaucratic Basis system working it magic of Stonewalling some groups(conservatives) in favor of another group (Liberals),  The IRS failed to show it can be fair and impartial to party status for those filings for non-profit status. Receiving approvals; conservatives (10%)  liberals (100%) group approvals. If a Democrat group filing for non-profit status, the IRS streamlined to approval. If a Republican conservative group filed, often IRS would send forms back at the last minute requesting additional detailed information. Sometimes get lost or denied all together. Thus have to resubmit forms, beginning the process all over again. Delay, delay, delay and some groups gave up all together as time was running out.  Apparently, the FBI is no Different than the IRS example of being Non-Compliant to Impartiality. Favoring liberal party groups over conservative groups.

I would make a statement like .... you can't blame the Government workers for adopting "The Swamp" or aligning and favoring Democrats for Democrats have been and promoting "BIG .. Bigger and Growing Government" to meet and cater to everyone's needs and solve all the world's problems.  You can blame them though but it just does no good.  They are going to continue to do what's in their best interest even if that is against the best interest of the American people.  

The fact that there is little to no accountability in Government jobs, especially under Democratic administrations, make it easy for many Government workers to favor Democrats over Republicans or libertarians who favor little or a small government footprint.  Maybe Democrats were just more successful at putting people in the positions they needed for favors they needed or wanted, I don't know.  I do agree with you though regarding what Trump faces.  I believe it's historic and unprecedented in nature, scope and size from the bulk of media to most all Democrats and several within Trump's own party he faces obstruction and opposition unseen even in Nixon's day.

Br’er Rabbit posted:

Republicans grow government. Facts don't have a party or a side. They're just facts.

From the chart, you cited it appears that ALL Presidents, FDR on, grew government to some extent.  FDR and Obama might have appeared to reduce government but they only reduced it from the huge growth they made initially.  

What would be a more telling chart or indication would be to contrast the amount of Government size compared to the amount of money that the Government brought in, to pay for itself, also mixing in with that the amount contributed per family (tax rate).  In other words, Government growth has been steadily increasing all along but Government has had times when it was paid for and the Debt wasn't being increased, and there were very few years if any that this happened.  I believe the Clinton years was the last time.  

Just look at the Debt's expansion and huge growth over the last decades.  Bush might argue that the Iraq war and post 911 military action caused a large amount of his debt growth but LBJ and Nixon had the Vietnam war and Bush(s) also had the Iraq conflicts.  The National Debt really started taking off under Reagan.

File:Public debt percent of GDP.pdf

The above chart though is even more telling and closer to what I was wanting to see and from it, to me, the most glaring things that indicate problems to the economy was World War II cost which could be understood as the Nation converted to a war footing and produced all the goods needed for World War II for our nation as well as supplying Russia and England with materials.  The really telling part of the graph though is the Obama years and how much more of a rise there was then.  From when Obama took office it skyrocketed compared to other Presidents and times.  Obama's unbounded growth was only matched by times of war or the Great Depression. There is a great spike in 1917 when the United States Joined World War I and again in 1930 or so at the Great Depression followed by 1941 and the US entry into World War II.  Korea and Vietnam didn't make a dent and other periods such as under Reagan saw a gentle rise but in 2008 when Obama took over it was like another World War or Great Depression. 

The other interesting thing I observed from the graphs is how the American public has selected to vote in Democrat and Republicans ever so often.  I think to change hoping that one party will actually turn things around or maybe they just get tired of the party in charge.  I might also say, though, while the Clinton years looked good it was ONLY after the Republican takeover of Congress and the fulfilling of the "Contract with America" that a Balanced budget was achieved.  It wasn't something Clinton came up with but rather that he went along with the Republican Congress and didn't stop it.  They worked together.  Sadly times where Republicans and Democrats working together are few and far between.  Although I know there are exceptions, I believe things work better for the American citizens and people when politicians on both sides find common ground and work together rather than being adversarial and blocking each other.  

Today the Democrats are so spot focused on making Illegal Immigrants legal and being antagonistic toward Trump that they are about to isolate themselves from many of their base voters.  Black Americans are seeing historic unemployment and historic employment growth under Trump and at the same time are seeing Democrats backing the very people that are taking jobs away from Americans, both Black, White, and Hispanic Americans.  Even Hispanic Americans who are legal are not in favor of the Illegals taking their jobs and reducing their wages.  The Democratic party is (my opinion) about to anger some of it's historic core base voters in their recent focus on Illegals.  Time will only tell if that is true.  

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Liberals label everything they say as a "fact",  though they don't
always get the date right while a liberal fact is only a fake news
opinion. So the easiest way to answer a smart *** Swamp Hare and
their so called facts is with silence. This works because they don't 
hear you, they just wait to scream opinions/lies and BS. 

Data and charts can be manipulated in many ways as an interpretation of said data.  A  better indicator of conditions, I believe, is the employment numbers (and unemployment) as well as consumer confidence, and the Stock Market.  I think all of the above have worked together to indicate that what Trump has done or is doing is working and is making things better.  Likewise, I believe the same indicated that Obama was a dismal failure as President.  I just don't believe Obama was qualified and competent to be President and was out of his league.  He was inept and ill-equipped to be successful in the job.  

Donald Trump, as a successful businessman knows what works or worked for him in Private industry and thus he was better able to come in and identify problems and remedy them.  He was, and is, not a politician and I believe it's that very thing that scares other politicians about him.  They fear him and that he will be successful in doing what he proposes to do thereby showing their own incompetence.  I believe it takes all kinds of people to govern and a wise leader is one that picks appropriate people from all kinds of backgrounds to assist and aid him/her in the job of President.  It does take politicians and people to be diplomatic with others but it also takes some business intelligence to know how to handle the economy.  Theory is nice but usually, it does not work in practice and the real world.   Obama was thick with Theory and hope but thin on results and actual knowledge and practice.  I think history will prove that Obama was a dismal failure and that Trump's reversal of many of his actions is what led to today's great economic numbers and progress.  Just my opinion though, mind you.

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