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When did you realize that you were grown? Not mature yet maybe, but at what point made you know that you were getting there? (I know a lot of you will say the big S*X, but some broke that barrier young!)

I say it was when I NEEDED a watch-very simple illustration, but I went crazy without one.
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When I moved out at 19 and never looked back.

My mom was in a crazy relationship with my then step-father, where they couldn't decide whether or not they wanted to stay together. I was working and going to college at the time. The first blow was when I found out I'd been nominated for Student of the Year at college. I lost out because I didn't respond to the letter before the deadline. The reason I didn't respond before the deadline is because my mom didn't tell me about the letter until it was too late! She was too busy with the step-dad drama.

The last straw was when I came home from work one day and she was gone. All her things, and my brother's things (he was 11 at the time) were gone. No note, no explanation. I moved in with a friend within days. (I didn't stay in the house because I couldn't afford the house payments. After I moved out, my mom sold it.)

The only money I had to my name was what I made at my minimum wage job. I didn't have the "mommy and daddy" cushion to fall back on; if I couldn't pay the bills, I knew I'd fall on my face. I didn't have anywhere else to go and, thankfully, I knew better than to get myself knocked up and married just to feel a sense of security.

I was very scared at first because I was driving a 10-year-old car that needed many repairs and suddenly I had to pay rent and utilities on top of that. But I made a go of it and never regretted it. There was nothing like writing those checks for rent. It was MY money that paid for that rent; I had earned it. You can't buy a feeling like that.

My mother and I had a strained relationship for a long time after that. I hardly talked to her for years, but I eventually forgave her and our relationship is good now.
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Originally posted by Buttercup:
When I moved out at 19 and never looked back.

My mom was in a crazy relationship with my then step-father, where they couldn't decide whether or not they wanted to stay together. I was working and going to college at the time. The first blow was when I found out I'd been nominated for Student of the Year at college. I lost out because I didn't respond to the letter before the deadline. The reason I didn't respond before the deadline is because my mom didn't tell me about the letter until it was too late! She was too busy with the step-dad drama.

The last straw was when I came home from work one day and she was gone. All her things, and my brother's things (he was 11 at the time) were gone. No note, no explanation. I moved in with a friend within days. (I didn't stay in the house because I couldn't afford the house payments. After I moved out, my mom sold it.)

The only money I had to my name was what I made at my minimum wage job. I didn't have the "mommy and daddy" cushion to fall back on; if I couldn't pay the bills, I knew I'd fall on my face. I didn't have anywhere else to go and, thankfully, I knew better than to get myself knocked up and married just to feel a sense of security.

I was very scared at first because I was driving a 10-year-old car that needed many repairs and suddenly I had to pay rent and utilities on top of that. But I made a go of it and never regretted it. There was nothing like writing those checks for rent. It was MY money that paid for that rent; I had earned it. You can't buy a feeling like that.

My mother and I had a strained relationship for a long time after that. I hardly talked to her for years, but I eventually forgave her and our relationship is good now.
Wow!! I don't know you but admire the heck out of you!
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Originally posted by The Raven:
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Originally posted by Buttercup:
When I moved out at 19 and never looked back.

My mom was in a crazy relationship with my then step-father, where they couldn't decide whether or not they wanted to stay together. I was working and going to college at the time. The first blow was when I found out I'd been nominated for Student of the Year at college. I lost out because I didn't respond to the letter before the deadline. The reason I didn't respond before the deadline is because my mom didn't tell me about the letter until it was too late! She was too busy with the step-dad drama.

The last straw was when I came home from work one day and she was gone. All her things, and my brother's things (he was 11 at the time) were gone. No note, no explanation. I moved in with a friend within days. (I didn't stay in the house because I couldn't afford the house payments. After I moved out, my mom sold it.)

The only money I had to my name was what I made at my minimum wage job. I didn't have the "mommy and daddy" cushion to fall back on; if I couldn't pay the bills, I knew I'd fall on my face. I didn't have anywhere else to go and, thankfully, I knew better than to get myself knocked up and married just to feel a sense of security.

I was very scared at first because I was driving a 10-year-old car that needed many repairs and suddenly I had to pay rent and utilities on top of that. But I made a go of it and never regretted it. There was nothing like writing those checks for rent. It was MY money that paid for that rent; I had earned it. You can't buy a feeling like that.

My mother and I had a strained relationship for a long time after that. I hardly talked to her for years, but I eventually forgave her and our relationship is good now.
Wow!! I don't know you but admire the heck out of you!


Yea, me too !! Congratulations on coming out on top.
Thanks, Raven and seeweed.

I continued to finish out the school year when I moved into the apartment, but couldn't afford to go back in the fall.

Living at home with my mom, I had been getting a Pell Grant for college. After I lived on my own for a while I got a full-time job to help pay bills, with the goal of taking classes at night. Well, UNA told me I made too much money to qualify for a grant. (Too much money, making minimum wage!) The admissions rep. actually told me it would help if I had a kid or two. Can you believe that?

At that time, I didn't consider applying for a loan. It would have helped if I'd had someone in my corner to encourage me to do that, or help me find a way to finish college. But I didn't, so I just focused on working and paying my bills at that point.

I did go back to college a few years ago here in B'ham (all my old credits tranfered), but still haven't finished. I have about a year to go so, lately, I've been considering trying to go ahead and obtain my degree through mostly on-line classes when I start homeschooling the kid next fall.

Anyway, I think going through what I did is the reason I don't suffer very long from bouts of feel-sorry-for-me-itus, and can't stand to see others feeling sorry for themselves, either.
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Originally posted by Buttercup:
When I moved out at 19 and never looked back.

My mom was in a crazy relationship with my then step-father, where they couldn't decide whether or not they wanted to stay together. I was working and going to college at the time. The first blow was when I found out I'd been nominated for Student of the Year at college. I lost out because I didn't respond to the letter before the deadline. The reason I didn't respond before the deadline is because my mom didn't tell me about the letter until it was too late! She was too busy with the step-dad drama.

The last straw was when I came home from work one day and she was gone. All her things, and my brother's things (he was 11 at the time) were gone. No note, no explanation. I moved in with a friend within days. (I didn't stay in the house because I couldn't afford the house payments. After I moved out, my mom sold it.)

The only money I had to my name was what I made at my minimum wage job. I didn't have the "mommy and daddy" cushion to fall back on; if I couldn't pay the bills, I knew I'd fall on my face. I didn't have anywhere else to go and, thankfully, I knew better than to get myself knocked up and married just to feel a sense of security.

I was very scared at first because I was driving a 10-year-old car that needed many repairs and suddenly I had to pay rent and utilities on top of that. But I made a go of it and never regretted it. There was nothing like writing those checks for rent. It was MY money that paid for that rent; I had earned it. You can't buy a feeling like that.

My mother and I had a strained relationship for a long time after that. I hardly talked to her for years, but I eventually forgave her and our relationship is good now.

Buttercvup,
that is an incredible stroy, and I am glad you and your mother were able to patch things up. Right now my mother is in CCU and has been there for over four weeks on a ventilator. My dad is having to make the decision this week, right before Christmas, to cut off the ventilator since they are not giving any hope of improvements. I think when you are faced with the hardship of having to bury your parents, and you realize that you are where they were when you were the "young one", things really get put into perspective.
Everyone who has a living parent needs to take this holiday, and if you cannot get there, at least call and tell them how much you appreciate and love them. Like the poet said, "time is fleeting", and it passes before you know it.
Happy Holidays to all of you.
Teyates, That is such a terrible decision to have to make at this time of year. You and your family is certainly in our thoughts at this time.
Loosing a parent surely has a defining point in our maturation point in life. Coincidently my dad died Dec. 22 1994, that day played an important role in me knowing that I am now the senior man in my family with my name.
teyates, I know where you are emotionally right now. My mom died the day before Thanksgiving, two days before her birthday, and of course a month before Christmas. Six weeks to the day my mom died, my sister died. That was a horrible year, I had also lost a dear friend in October. I was so nervous when the phone rang that I told my family and friends PLEASE DO NOT call if something else happened but instead come to my house or work. I couldn't stand it when the phone rang wondering what had happened next.
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Originally posted by teyates:
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Originally posted by Buttercup:
When I moved out at 19 and never looked back.

My mom was in a crazy relationship with my then step-father, where they couldn't decide whether or not they wanted to stay together. I was working and going to college at the time. The first blow was when I found out I'd been nominated for Student of the Year at college. I lost out because I didn't respond to the letter before the deadline. The reason I didn't respond before the deadline is because my mom didn't tell me about the letter until it was too late! She was too busy with the step-dad drama.

The last straw was when I came home from work one day and she was gone. All her things, and my brother's things (he was 11 at the time) were gone. No note, no explanation. I moved in with a friend within days. (I didn't stay in the house because I couldn't afford the house payments. After I moved out, my mom sold it.)

The only money I had to my name was what I made at my minimum wage job. I didn't have the "mommy and daddy" cushion to fall back on; if I couldn't pay the bills, I knew I'd fall on my face. I didn't have anywhere else to go and, thankfully, I knew better than to get myself knocked up and married just to feel a sense of security.

I was very scared at first because I was driving a 10-year-old car that needed many repairs and suddenly I had to pay rent and utilities on top of that. But I made a go of it and never regretted it. There was nothing like writing those checks for rent. It was MY money that paid for that rent; I had earned it. You can't buy a feeling like that.

My mother and I had a strained relationship for a long time after that. I hardly talked to her for years, but I eventually forgave her and our relationship is good now.

Buttercvup,
that is an incredible stroy, and I am glad you and your mother were able to patch things up. Right now my mother is in CCU and has been there for over four weeks on a ventilator. My dad is having to make the decision this week, right before Christmas, to cut off the ventilator since they are not giving any hope of improvements. I think when you are faced with the hardship of having to bury your parents, and you realize that you are where they were when you were the "young one", things really get put into perspective.
Everyone who has a living parent needs to take this holiday, and if you cannot get there, at least call and tell them how much you appreciate and love them. Like the poet said, "time is fleeting", and it passes before you know it.
Happy Holidays to all of you.


I'm glad I didn't wait until it was too late to patch things up with my mother. I think becoming a mother myself gave me some perspective. After my dad died my mom was left with 5 kids under the age of 12 to raise...I thought raising one was hard! I finally realized she's human and she makes mistakes. Also, she had been punished enough in her life (abusive men), so I didn't want to continue and punish her even more.

It's difficult to face the loss of a parent, no matter the time of year, but it's extra difficult to face it near a holiday. My FIL died a few years ago the day before Thanksgiving. Now that holiday is difficult for my husband.

I pray that your mother has a peaceful journey and that your family has the strength to get through it.

And Happy Holidays to you as well, teyates.
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Originally posted by bluetick:
Teyates, I don't pray but my thoughts and best wishes are with you.

Buttercup, I have to say it again. You are a special person. You. my friend, are a winner. Smiler


That's sweet of you to say, bluetick, my friend. I'm not the smartest person on the planet and by far not the most beautiful, but I'm glad God blessed me with a healthy dose of determination (and mixed in a sense of humor, and maybe a little stubbornness). Determination has helped me get through a few tough spots in this life.

I learned a long time ago that it would be futile for me to feel sorry for myself, so I never do. I'm thankful to have acquired that knowledge.

Merry Christmas, bud. Smiler
When my daughter came home all excited because she had found my High School Yearbook with my senior picture in it at an ANTIQUE store......and she was way too happy about it. True story. Buttercup I have to say I've read a lot of your postings......admired you then by just reading them, but if I could.....I'd give you a big pat on the back, cause today you just totally confirmed that you probably are one great wise ones we have on here.
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Originally posted by bluejeanmamma:
When my daughter came home all excited because she had found my High School Yearbook with my senior picture in it at an ANTIQUE store......and she was way too happy about it. True story. Buttercup I have to say I've read a lot of your postings......admired you then by just reading them, but if I could.....I'd give you a big pat on the back, cause today you just totally confirmed that you probably are one great wise ones we have on here.


LOL! Now that's funny, bluejean! I was looking at some old pics the other night and thinking to myself, "What was I thinking?" (with the early 90's Aquanet hair). I think the women in my age group caused the hole in the ozone layer...and brought on "climate change" with our over-use of hairspray. Big Grin

And thank you for the kind words. That was a very nice post.

Merry Christmas!
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Originally posted by Tool:
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Originally posted by bluetick:
Teyates, I don't pray but my thoughts and best wishes are with you.

Buttercup, I have to say it again. You are a special person. You. my friend, are a winner. Smiler


Be careful that buttercup doesn't make a sudden turn...your nose will be broken. Big Grin


Noses are for amateurs! I go straight for the knee caps - Tonya Harding style. Wink
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Originally posted by Buttercup:
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Originally posted by Tool:
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Originally posted by bluetick:
Teyates, I don't pray but my thoughts and best wishes are with you.

Buttercup, I have to say it again. You are a special person. You. my friend, are a winner. Smiler


Be careful that buttercup doesn't make a sudden turn...your nose will be broken. Big Grin


Noses are for amateurs! I go straight for the knee caps - Tonya Harding style. Wink


Be a real shame of you missed the kneecaps on an upward swing Wink
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Originally posted by Buttercup:

LOL! Now that's funny, bluejean! I was looking at some old pics the other night and thinking to myself, "What was I thinking?" (with the early 90's Aquanet hair). I think the women in my age group caused the hole in the ozone layer...and brought on "climate change" with our over-use of hairspray. Big Grin

And thank you for the kind words. That was a very nice post.

Merry Christmas!


I remember those days, I was dating a girl that went through a couple of bottles a week, at least.....

Captain

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