When Is The Bible Literal And When Is it Symbolic?

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It is a shame that there are those who use Bill to mock God's Word.

Shoals, it is Bill who makes a mockery of the Word, not us. He is an easy, even willing target for scorn and ridicule and deserves every critique he gets as he brings embarrassment and ridicule of God's holy word.

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Originally posted by Sofa King:

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Originally posted by Shoals Resident: Actually, thenagel, some people do care. Those who don't do not have to read Bill's post. Some who do read his post do so for the sole purpose to try to discredit God's Word. Sort of like killing the messenger when one doesn't like the message.

I do not always agree with Bill's view but I do respect him for referencing Scripture that he bases his beliefs upon. I do not nor do I believe anyone should base their beliefs upon only one man's interpretation of the Bible. One should always study for oneself using many references. It is a shame that there are those who use Bill to mock God's Word.

Shoals, it is Bill who makes a mockery of the Word, not us. He is an easy, even willing target for scorn and ridicule and deserves every critique he gets as he brings embarrassment and ridicule of God's holy word.

Hi Sofa,

When you refer to "God's holy word" -- are you speaking of the Written Word of God?

Or are you speaking of the book which YOU declare is NOT the Holy Spirit inspired book; NOT the Holy Spirit inerrant book; not the literal (as in Holy Spirit inspired) Written Word of God?

Correct me if I am wrong; but isn't this the book which you say is only a book of allegorical and symbolic myths and not really the Written Word of God?

Which Bible am I bringing ridicule upon: the Written Word of God -- or your allegorical, watered down, worldly adapted book you loosely call the Bible?

You see, Sofa, you have to be a wee bit more explicit in your statements. You leave a lot of good folks confused with your Liberal Theology symbolic Bible.

Yes, Sofa, I make a mockery of your Liberal Theology allegorical/symbolic worldly adapted Bible.

However, the Written Word of God, the inspired, inerrant, literal Written Word of God -- I cherish and would do nothing to dishonor. Just as I would do nothing to dishonor its Author, God.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Or are you speaking of the book which YOU declare is NOT the Holy Spirit inspired book; NOT the Holy Spirit inerrant book; not the literal (as in Holy Spirit inspired) Written Word of God?

Where, exactly, does the bible say the words "inerrant" and "literal" Bill? I really want to know that.

I've made my case abundantly clear. The bible is obviously filled with timeless wisdom that could only come from God and his Son. But it was polluted by man for his own desires. We see evidence of that in people like you who use the Holy Word to mock and ridicule fellow believers and instigate hate and ill feelings from those you are supposed to love.

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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
We are all still waiting for you to answer veeps question. You started this thread (as you do most) now explain how you decide what you believe is literal and what is symbolic.

I bless you, have a nice day.

Hi Jan,

Doesn't the suspense just kill you? But, the more you wait -- the more eager you will be to read it -- the more you will enjoy it. See, I am only trying to make it all better for you.

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

And while you're at it, could you kindly answer the question? You've been promising and promising, yet....no answer.
in case you have forgotten, i asked you, and you started a new thread to address these 2 questions:
On what authority do you negate the literal words of the Last Supper as "symbolic".
and
On what authority can you claim "once saved always saved" based on this scripture verse ALONE:
"not all who say to me Lord shall enter Heaven."

GOLLY, GEE - I HAVE BEEN PLANNING ON RESPONDING TO VP'S QUESTIONS. BUT, NOW THAT HE HAS ME ON "IGNORE" -- WHY BOTHER? HE COULDN'T RESPOND ANYWAY.

You lie like a rug.

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GOLLY, GEE - I HAVE BEEN PLANNING ON RESPONDING TO VP'S QUESTIONS. BUT, NOW THAT HE HAS ME ON "IGNORE" -- WHY BOTHER? HE COULDN'T RESPOND ANYWAY.

Such a hypocrit.

Hey, I'm listening Bill. So are others. Why not answer the question? On what authority do you proclaim absolute knowledge while the rest of us have it all wrong?

I'm also still waiting on your answer to mine: "Where, exactly, does the bible say the words "inerrant" and "literal" Bill?"

Hi Sofa,

Earlier I wrote in jest, "GOLLY, GEE - I HAVE BEEN PLANNING ON RESPONDING TO VP'S QUESTIONS. BUT, NOW THAT HE HAS ME ON "IGNORE" -- WHY BOTHER? HE COULDN'T RESPOND ANYWAY."

And, you respond, "Such a hypocrit (sic). Hey, I'm listening Bill. So are others. Why not answer the question?"

You did not ask the questions. And, you are not really listening; you are wearing your Liberal Theology ear plugs.

Then, you ask, "On what authority do you proclaim absolute knowledge while the rest of us have it all wrong?"

Do I claim absolute knowledge? No, but, every day I am maturing in my knowledge of God's Written Word. And, that should be our goal.

Finally, you ask, "I'm also still waiting on your answer to mine: 'Where, exactly, does the bible say the words "inerrant" and "literal" Bill?'"

In 2 Timothy 3:16-17 -- but, I will let you study this very important Scripture passage for yourself -- just to see if you CAN find the true meaning.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Sofa,

Earlier I wrote in jest, "GOLLY, GEE - I HAVE BEEN PLANNING ON RESPONDING TO VP'S QUESTIONS. BUT, NOW THAT HE HAS ME ON "IGNORE" -- WHY BOTHER? HE COULDN'T RESPOND ANYWAY."

You're obviuosly not smart enough-or quick-witted enough to be anything but literal. Obviously when you say "Jest" or "joshing", you really mean "I got caught lying and twisting the words in the bible to suit my agenda (Bill for god in 2012!) again."

You're not fooling anybody.

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You're not fooling anybody.

So very true. I think, tail between legs, he has scampered away from my direct question. Although I have him on "ignore" and am blissfully unaware, I doubt that he has ever answered the questions. Shrug> shocker.
but let me know if he does, cause i will have to unclick ignore just for the Gospel according to Bill Gray........Lol.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Sofa,

Earlier I wrote in jest, "GOLLY, GEE - I HAVE BEEN PLANNING ON RESPONDING TO VP'S QUESTIONS. BUT, NOW THAT HE HAS ME ON "IGNORE" -- WHY BOTHER? HE COULDN'T RESPOND ANYWAY."

And, you respond, "Such a hypocrit (sic). Hey, I'm listening Bill. So are others. Why not answer the question?"

You did not ask the questions. And, you are not really listening; you are wearing your Liberal Theology ear plugs.

My response is my absolte proof that I am listening. So, answer the question. Why would you be afraid to do so?

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Then, you ask, "On what authority do you proclaim absolute knowledge while the rest of us have it all wrong?"

Do I claim absolute knowledge? No, but, every day I am maturing in my knowledge of God's Written Word. And, that should be our goal.

Then STOP proclaiming that YOU have the answers based on YOUR interpretation of the bible and perhaps give some credence that our, even the "liberal" interpretations might also be correct. Since we are comparing religious penis sizes, it is YOUR fundamentalist religion that is the true liberal. Mine is even closer to the original ORGANIZED religion, Catholicism (no, there are pre and post apostolic churches but we really can't call them denominations as defined today).

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Finally, you ask, "I'm also still waiting on your answer to mine: 'Where, exactly, does the bible say the words "inerrant" and "literal" Bill?'"

In 2 Timothy 3:16-17 -- but, I will let you study this very important Scripture passage for yourself -- just to see if you CAN find the true meaning.

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Of course I knew the answer before I asked it. There are other versus you could ahve used but this one does come the closest in attempting to support your interpretaiont but it falls way short.


You INSIST and proclaim absolutely that the bible is literal and inerrant. You state is much of a fact as the sky is blue. Yet the bible says NO SUCH THING and you damm well know it! I see no "inerrant" and "literal" words in there at all. So your insistence is based on YOUR INTERPRETATION.

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You INSIST and proclaim absolutely that the bible is literal and inerrant. You state is much of a fact as the sky is blue. Yet the bible says NO SUCH THING and you damm well know it! I see no "inerrant" and "literal" words in there at all. So your insistence is based on YOUR INTERPRETATION.

we keep telling him that, and he keeps not listening.

we have a 3 year old living with us right now.
and being a 3 year old, he is at the point where he doesn't get why he can't do the things he wants when he wants.

no, you can't do that now
but i want to
yes, but you cant. it's time to do this instead.
no, i not.
yes, you will, so you might as well start.
i not know how.
you don't knwo how to eat?
NO.
but you know how t oplay on the computer?
yes, i want to play.
tough, it's time for dinner.
No, i not. i play.

and so on and so on before the poor thing walks into a smack on the butt.

bill is like the 3 year old. he's blinded by when he's decided is the truth to the point that no other idea can get past the concrete in his mind.
the really pathetic part is that he is PROUD of this, and it's just silly, sad, and pitiable.

Bro Bill,

You must not waver. You must pour on the coal. Let them smell the brimstone.

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Originally posted by rramlimnn:
Bro Bill,

You must not waver. You must pour on the coal. Let them smell the brimstone.

ROFLMFAO

' you must not waiver.'

Uuuuse the Force, Bill!

the image in my head keeps flipping from gandalf standing on the bridge shouting

YOU...SHALL NOT...PASS!!

and the black knight stand on the bridge as he looks at the bloody stumps saying

It's just a flesh wound!

So... Bill gets messages the rest of us do not hear. We do not glean them, at all, and for this, he gets to tell us how we should live and to whom we should devote allegiance.

I will not be spoken to in this tone of voice, at least by the sane. I can forgive Gray, his grasp on reality is as solid as smoke.

But it's what preachers do every Sunday. What gives them the right to preach to anyone? Who made them special messengers of god?

Think about it. Why do people listen to preachers uncritically?

MJ

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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
So... Bill gets messages the rest of us do not hear. We do not glean them, at all, and for this, he gets to tell us how we should live and to whom we should devote allegiance.

I will not be spoken to in this tone of voice, at least by the sane. I can forgive Gray, his grasp on reality is as solid as smoke.

But it's what preachers do every Sunday. What gives them the right to preach to anyone? Who made them special messengers of god?

Think about it. Why do people listen to preachers uncritically?

MJ

William Joseph Robert Gene,

Is this really something you struggle with?

I cannot imagine.

Its not so much I struggle with it, I wonder about it.

How can people be so gullible?

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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:


I will not be spoken to in this tone of voice, a




MJ

Then please, by all means, leave this forum and join the other insane people.

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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
Its not so much I struggle with it, I wonder about it.

How can people be so gullible?

That's what we wonder about you!

To be accused of insanity by the likes of you affirms my grasp on reality, thank you.

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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
Its not so much I struggle with it, I wonder about it. How can people be so gullible?

one day i'm gonan have to remember to look up this dawkins fella, just to see why bill seems so obsessed with him.

i think bill has a secret man-crush.
;p

nagel,

I think you'll like what you find.


RT

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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
So... Bill gets messages the rest of us do not hear. We do not glean them, at all, and for this, he gets to tell us how we should live and to whom we should devote allegiance.

I will not be spoken to in this tone of voice, at least by the sane. I can forgive Gray, his grasp on reality is as solid as smoke.

But it's what preachers do every Sunday. What gives them the right to preach to anyone? Who made them special messengers of god?

Think about it. Why do people listen to preachers uncritically?

MJ

BJBG

You are right people should not listen to preachers and just accept what they say. Their message must be compared to what the Bible teaches. I actually know few people who go solely on "what Bro. So and So says"

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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
nagel,

I think you'll like what you find.RT

Hi Deep,

For once I agree with you. I am sure that Nagel, no matter how Fishy he is, will fit right in with the Dawkins Gang. Of course, he has had his Dawkins Diploma for at least three years.

Maybe we can get a photo of you two in your Dawkins U. grad hats.

Y'all come on back now, ya heah?

Bill

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Originally posted by tigrtrek:
BJBG, You are right people should not listen to preachers and just accept what they say. Their message must be compared to what the Bible teaches. I actually know few people who go solely on "what Bro. So and So says"

AMEN! - AMEN! - AMEN! - ACTS 17:11!

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
nagel,

I think you'll like what you find.RT

Hi Deep,

For once I agree with you. I am sure that Nagel, no matter how Fishy he is, will fit right in with the Dawkins Gang. Of course, he has had his Dawkins Diploma for at least three years.

Maybe we can get a photo of you two in your Dawkins U. grad hats.

Y'all come on back now, ya heah?

Bill

wait.. am i fish or is puppy?
i haven't been here 3 years, and i don't know who dawkins is.

well.. i didn't. i looked him up.
seems to me that he is the Anti-Bill.
he pretty much is the mirror image of billy gray, and now i understand why soemone like bill becoems so obsessed with him.

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Originally posted by thenagel:
wait.. am i fish or is puppy? i haven't been here 3 years, and i don't know who dawkins is. well.. i didn't. i looked him up. seems to me that he is the Anti-Bill. he pretty much is the mirror image of billy gray, and now i understand why soemone (sic) like bill becoems (sic) so obsessed with him.

Yep!

Our old Friend always did try to play dumb. But, for him it was perfect type casting. I guess getting all educated didn't help much.

I am reminded of the good old boy who moved up north and got a job as a Sanitation Engineer. He wrote home to maw, "Maw, yestiddy, I cudn't spel injunir. And, today, I are one!

Yes, sir, my Friend, your brief time out for education sure hasn't improve your posts very much.

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Originally posted by thenagel:
wait.. am i fish or is puppy? i haven't been here 3 years, and i don't know who dawkins is. well.. i didn't. i looked him up. seems to me that he is the Anti-Bill. he pretty much is the mirror image of billy gray, and now i understand why soemone (sic) like bill becoems (sic) so obsessed with him.

Yep!

Our old Friend always did try to play dumb. But, for him it was perfect type casting. I guess getting all educated didn't help much.

I am reminded of the good old boy who moved up north and got a job as a Sanitation Engineer. He wrote home to maw, "Maw, yestiddy, I cudn't spel injunir. And, today, I are one!

Yes, sir, my Friend, your brief time out for education sure hasn't improve your posts very much.

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

what in god's name are you talking about?
you forget to take your alzheimer's meds again?
i ask an either/or question and you answer Yup!
who is "our old friend'? me, fish, puppy, or dawkins?

go take a nap and come back when you can make sense.

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what in god's name are you talking about?
you forget to take your alzheimer's meds again?
i ask an either/or question and you answer Yup!
who is "our old friend'? me, fish, puppy, or dawkins?

Heh I think that's no less that 5 people he's named that. Puppy, you, me, and one or two others. Wonder what those guys did to make Him so obsessive?

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Originally posted by Sofa King:

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what in god's name are you talking about?
you forget to take your alzheimer's meds again?
i ask an either/or question and you answer Yup!
who is "our old friend'? me, fish, puppy, or dawkins?

Heh I think that's no less that 5 people he's named that. Puppy, you, me, and one or two others. Wonder what those guys did to make Him so obsessive?

dunno, but they obviously made a lasting impact on bill.
poor old bill just isn't memorable enough for that..
eventually i'll get tired of this, and shortly after, if asked, i'll say Bill who?
poro old bill.

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Originally posted by thenagel:

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Originally posted by thenagel:
wait.. am i fish or is puppy? i haven't been here 3 years, and i don't know who dawkins is. well.. i didn't. i looked him up. seems to me that he is the Anti-Bill. he pretty much is the mirror image of billy gray, and now i understand why soemone (sic) like bill becoems (sic) so obsessed with him.

Yep!

Our old Friend always did try to play dumb. But, for him it was perfect type casting. I guess getting all educated didn't help much.

I am reminded of the good old boy who moved up north and got a job as a Sanitation Engineer. He wrote home to maw, "Maw, yestiddy, I cudn't spel injunir. And, today, I are one!

Yes, sir, my Friend, your brief time out for education sure hasn't improve your posts very much.

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

what in god's name are you talking about?
you forget to take your alzheimer's meds again?
i ask an either/or question and you answer Yup!
who is "our old friend'? me, fish, puppy, or dawkins?

go take a nap and come back when you can make sense.

SOUNDING MORE AND MORE "FISHY" EVERY DAY!

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Originally posted by thenagel:

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Originally posted by thenagel:
wait.. am i fish or is puppy? i haven't been here 3 years, and i don't know who dawkins is. well.. i didn't. i looked him up. seems to me that he is the Anti-Bill. he pretty much is the mirror image of billy gray, and now i understand why soemone (sic) like bill becoems (sic) so obsessed with him.

Yep!

Our old Friend always did try to play dumb. But, for him it was perfect type casting. I guess getting all educated didn't help much.

I am reminded of the good old boy who moved up north and got a job as a Sanitation Engineer. He wrote home to maw, "Maw, yestiddy, I cudn't spel injunir. And, today, I are one!

Yes, sir, my Friend, your brief time out for education sure hasn't improve your posts very much.

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

what in god's name are you talking about?
you forget to take your alzheimer's meds again?
i ask an either/or question and you answer Yup!
who is "our old friend'? me, fish, puppy, or dawkins?

go take a nap and come back when you can make sense.

SOUNDING MORE AND MORE "FISHY" EVERY DAY!

well, i do enjoy seafood, i guess.
/shrug.

Since we know that Jesus only spoke in parables (Mat 13:34), and we know He does not change (Mal 3:6) and that He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow (Heb 13:8 ), then we can safely conclude that Revelation, which is the Revelation of Jesus is also a parable. As a matter of fact we have proof of this in Rev 1:1

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

The word "signified" comes from the Greek word semaino and is defined by Strongs and Vines dictionary of the Greek as...

1. semaino (G4591), "to give a sign, indicate" (sema, "a sign": cf. SIGN, No. 1), "to signify," is so translated in Joh_12:33; Joh_18:32; Joh_21:19; Act_11:28; Act_25:27; Rev_1:1, where perhaps the suggestion is that of expressing by signs.
2. deloo (G1213), "to make plain" (delos, "evident"), is translated "to signify" in 1Co_1:11, RV, "it hath been signified" (KJV, "declared"); Heb_9:8; Heb_12:27; 1Pe_1:11, KJV (RV, "point unto"); 2Pe_1:14, RV, "signified" (KJV, "hath showed"). See POINT (unto).
3. emphanizo (G1718), "to manifest, make known," is translated "signify" in Act_23:15; Act_23:22, RV (KJV, "hath showed"). See APPEAR, No. 5.
Note: In Act_21:26, KJV, diangello, "to announce," is rendered "to signify" (RV, "declaring").

My Websters dictionary defines 'signify' as

1. To make known something, either by signs or words; to express or communicate to another any idea, thought, wish, a hod, wink, gesture, signal or other sign. A man signifies his mind by his voice or by written characters; he may signify his mind by a nod or other motion, provided the person to whom he directs it, understands what is intend by it. A general or an admiral signifies his commands by signals to officers as a distance.

So basically when something is "signified" it is made know by signs and symbols.

So whenever someone wants to make a case for "hell" they always insist what Scriptures say about it is always literal, and they pick and choose what they want to be symbols. The Christian hell is nothing more than a sick Christian pagan hoax.

gdriggs

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Originally posted by gdriggs:
Since we know that Jesus only spoke in parables. . .

Hi GD,

Take a look at my post in the discussion "Well, Heck!" -- and you will find that I have refuted that statement already.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Here is yet another great paper based on the Scriptures written by L. Ray Smith, titled:

'The Book of Revelation is a Book of Symbols'

It can be found here:

http://bible-truths.com/lake1.html

Peace

gdriggs

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Originally posted by gdriggs:
Since we know that Jesus only spoke in parables. . .

Hi GD,

Take a look at my post in the discussion "Well, Heck!" -- and you will find that I have refuted that statement already.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

And everybody knows that if Bill Gray "refutes" something, then it is never to be believed again. He knows all...just ask him.

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Originally posted by gdriggs:
Here is yet another great paper based on the Scriptures written by L. Ray Smith, titled:
'The Book of Revelation is a Book of Symbols'

Hi GD,

Since you seem to be a disciple of this wayward man, L. Ray Smith -- will you please answer one question for me?

I am not asking which specific church you attend. But, which denomination church do you attend? Are you in the Worldwide Church of God (or one of its offshoots), the Unitarian Universalist, or Jehovah's Witnesses?

If you will not tell us -- that means that you are either, ashamed of where you attend church -- or you do not attend church. Which is it?

At least knowing that, we will be on a level playing field.

As for myself; I attend a Baptist church. No, it is not Calvinist, nor is it Arminianist. My personal Biblical Beliefs and that of the church I attend will fall in the middle between the two. We wear no label -- except that of Christian. But, we are affiliated with the Baptist General Conference.

What are your personal Bible Beliefs -- and what are the Bible Beliefs of the church you attend?

If you are ashamed to answer; not a problem.

But, about six months ago we had a gentleman who came on the Religion Forum and was copy/pasting from a New Age bible -- and like you, declaring his faith. But, his faith was New Age. What is yours?

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

I am not asking which specific church you attend. But, which denomination church do you attend? Are you in the Worldwide Church of God (or one of its offshoots), the Unitarian Universalist, or Jehovah's Witnesses?

If you will not tell us -- that means that you are either, ashamed of where you attend church -- or you do not attend church. Which is it?

why does it matter?

he's exibited as much knowledge of scripture as you have, he's professed belief in christ and god... shouldn't that be enough?

or is it that he doesn't subscribe to your particular version of the bible?
does it matter so much to you that you cannot accept that someone might have a different interpretation of that book than you?
is it really ' my way or the hell way" with you?

we all know the only reason you ask is so you can pidgeon-hole him into one of your "oh he's a slacker, following fake scripture" slots so you can once again feel superior to everyone.


i once said, bill, that if i cannot be with my wife in heaven as i am now, that i didn't want to go...

but now i'll expand on that feeling.

If the bible and heaven are as YOU explain them, and God really is a petty, whiney mean spitful hateful pusbag like the one your worship, then i'd rather burn.

if i go to hell because i don't believe the way you do, then i promise you, i'd rather be in hell than in heaven with a sactimonious prig like you, and the petulant spoiled child-god that you worship.


christianity like you spout is enough to turn anyone away.

so tell me bill.

i have been baptised. i accepted christ as my lord and savior, and prayed for the holy spirit to enter my heart and guide me, and i meant it.
am i saved now because i was always saved because i was once saved, or am i going to hell because i thing you're wrong in every significant way and the god you pray to is no better than a 13 year old girl with PMS and an additude problem?

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Originally posted by thenagel:

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

I am not asking which specific church you attend. But, which denomination church do you attend? Are you in the Worldwide Church of God (or one of its offshoots), the Unitarian Universalist, or Jehovah's Witnesses?

If you will not tell us -- that means that you are either, ashamed of where you attend church -- or you do not attend church. Which is it?

why does it matter?

he's exibited as much knowledge of scripture as you have, he's professed belief in christ and god... shouldn't that be enough?

Hi Nagel,

For a guy who tells God to sit in the back pew; I suppose that is enough.

However, our Friend, Al Williams, also quoted a lot of bible verses -- but, it was from a different Bible -- it was from his New Age bible.

For all we know, GD may be quoting from the Jehovah's Witnesses New World Translation, or he may be quoting the Urantia Book bible again, or some other such.

Yes, when someone is purporting to share the gospel; we need to know what gospel he is sharing. Mormons share a gospel of Jesus Christ; but, not the Jesus Christ of the Bible. Jehovah's Witnesses share a gospel; but, not the of Jesus Christ of the Bible.

Many folks have a gospel. But, not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Yes, my Friend, for anyone who bases their Christian beliefs upon the Bible -- it is very important to know what this person bases his beliefs upon -- besides a retired roofer who had too much sun.

And, like Al Williams would not answer such questions when he was here -- very likely his new reincarnation will not either. He will just sit back and let people like you do all his talking for him.

And, you, just because you want to disagree with me -- will swallow anything and everything he is peddling. Just because he is selling a New Age religion doesn't make him stupid. He knows very well how to get YOU to run interference for him. And, he is smiling about it.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill