Here's a nice little report and slide show from al.com.
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/20...s_what_people_e.html
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How does a school superintendent make $120k more than a mayor or police chief??
It seems to me that the school boards think that the higher pay for superintendant automatically makes for better schools. Really? Just look at some of the districts like Huntsville paying someone so much money and yet the school has gone deeper in debt every year she has been there and now they are going to pay her to quit. Something is wrong with this picture!! Schools should be like any other operation. Do the job or you don't have one. No buyout necessary! School boards that allowed these golden lined contracts are to blame. Somewhere in the contract; they need that provision: Do the job you are overpaid to do or leave through the same door you came in!!
At $198,000, imagine what Anne Roy Moore might have been worth if she'd been able to do her job and keep Huntsville schools out of bankruptcy. And teachers wonder why the public is concerned about their pay.
$4.7 million for a football coach; $450,000 for a college president? But only $36,000 for a teacher? This is totally nutty.
No wonder we're in the shape we're in.
No wonder we're in the shape we're in.
quote:Originally posted by Bakku-shan:
$4.7 million for a football coach; $450,000 for a college president? But only $36,000 for a teacher? This is totally nutty.
No wonder we're in the shape we're in.
Shhh! Don't get unobtanium started on that poor teacher's outrageous salary!
If I'm not mistaken Saban's salary from the University is around $200k. The rest of his comp is made up of endorsements and private funds.
Also, the pool of people who are capable of coaching a D1 program the level of UA or being president of a university that employs hundreds or even thousands is much smaller than the pool of people who are capable of teaching 1st grade. Hence, the difference in salaries. It's simple supply/demand.
Also, the pool of people who are capable of coaching a D1 program the level of UA or being president of a university that employs hundreds or even thousands is much smaller than the pool of people who are capable of teaching 1st grade. Hence, the difference in salaries. It's simple supply/demand.
quote:Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:quote:Originally posted by Bakku-shan:
$4.7 million for a football coach; $450,000 for a college president? But only $36,000 for a teacher? This is totally nutty.
No wonder we're in the shape we're in.
Shhh! Don't get unobtanium started on that poor teacher's outrageous salary!
that equates to over 50k compared to the private sector and you darn well know it, dog.
teachers don't get paid as high as college presidents and football coaches because not everyone can be either of those. supply and demand, folks. football coaches bring in much, much more revenue than they are paid, so does a good college president.
What do local superintendent's and teachers make? and how much are benefit packages worth? Would love to see a comparison of state employee pay and benefits they get.
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
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Originally posted by Bakku-shan:
$4.7 million for a football coach; $450,000 for a college president? But only $36,000 for a teacher? This is totally nutty.
No wonder we're in the shape we're in.
Shhh! Don't get unobtanium started on that poor teacher's outrageous salary!
that equates to over 50k compared to the private sector and you darn well know it, dog.
teachers don't get paid as high as college presidents and football coaches because not everyone can be either of those. supply and demand, folks. football coaches bring in much, much more revenue than they are paid, so does a good college president.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason” Ben Franklin
You are kidding, right?
Supply= need more teachers but CAN'T afford to pay them.
Coaches= do bring in revenue.Can a school exist only on sports?
College president= I bet he doesn't make ant decisions without a group of others that get less pay and some say.
Yes, pay some more for the president, but if you paid half what they make. Then you can hire 2 teachers and get MORE students means MORE money for the school.
Try the math. We are becoming so money centered that nothing else matters. Soon, only those who have money will make the decisions.
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
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Originally posted by Bakku-shan:
$4.7 million for a football coach; $450,000 for a college president? But only $36,000 for a teacher? This is totally nutty.
No wonder we're in the shape we're in.
Shhh! Don't get unobtanium started on that poor teacher's outrageous salary!
that equates to over 50k compared to the private sector and you darn well know it, dog.
teachers don't get paid as high as college presidents and football coaches because not everyone can be either of those. supply and demand, folks. football coaches bring in much, much more revenue than they are paid, so does a good college president.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason” Ben Franklin
You are kidding, right?
Supply= need more teachers but CAN'T afford to pay them.
Coaches= do bring in revenue.Can a school exist only on sports?
College president= I bet he doesn't make ant decisions without a group of others that get less pay and some say.
Yes, pay some more for the president, but if you paid half what they make. Then you can hire 2 teachers and get MORE students means MORE money for the school.
Try the math. We are becoming so money centered that nothing else matters. Soon, only those who have money will make the decisions.
Saban paid for his salry the first year he was there. His salary is paid for by donations made to the University and thru revenue generated from ticket sales. The interesting thing about those is that they are TOTALLY ELECTIVE, if you do not want to participate in them, you can opt out by not supporting the team and not going to the game. This is not the same with government sponsored programs which are supported by tax dollars, which are totally NON-ELECTIVE.
quote:Originally posted by Unobtanium:quote:Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:quote:Originally posted by Bakku-shan:
$4.7 million for a football coach; $450,000 for a college president? But only $36,000 for a teacher? This is totally nutty.
No wonder we're in the shape we're in.
Shhh! Don't get unobtanium started on that poor teacher's outrageous salary!
that equates to over 50k compared to the private sector and you darn well know it, dog.
teachers don't get paid as high as college presidents and football coaches because not everyone can be either of those. supply and demand, folks. football coaches bring in much, much more revenue than they are paid, so does a good college president.
Question for Unobtainium: WHO educates and motivates those future college presidents and coaches?
quote:Originally posted by teyates:
Saban paid for his salry the first year he was there. His salary is paid for by donations made to the University and thru revenue generated from ticket sales. The interesting thing about those is that they are TOTALLY ELECTIVE, if you do not want to participate in them, you can opt out by not supporting the team and not going to the game. This is not the same with government sponsored programs which are supported by tax dollars, which are totally NON-ELECTIVE.
Hey, what do you mean trying to bring common sense into the equation. Can't we just keep on with the "smoke and mirrors" method of politics? LOL
quote:Originally posted by ARE YOU KIDDING?:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
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Originally posted by Bakku-shan:
$4.7 million for a football coach; $450,000 for a college president? But only $36,000 for a teacher? This is totally nutty.
No wonder we're in the shape we're in.
Shhh! Don't get unobtanium started on that poor teacher's outrageous salary!
that equates to over 50k compared to the private sector and you darn well know it, dog.
teachers don't get paid as high as college presidents and football coaches because not everyone can be either of those. supply and demand, folks. football coaches bring in much, much more revenue than they are paid, so does a good college president.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason” Ben Franklin
You are kidding, right?
Supply= need more teachers but CAN'T afford to pay them.
Coaches= do bring in revenue.Can a school exist only on sports?
College president= I bet he doesn't make ant decisions without a group of others that get less pay and some say.
Yes, pay some more for the president, but if you paid half what they make. Then you can hire 2 teachers and get MORE students means MORE money for the school.
Try the math. We are becoming so money centered that nothing else matters. Soon, only those who have money will make the decisions.
You couldn't be more wrong. There is a larger pool of people who are capable of teaching 1st grade than there are people who are capable of coaching a D1 CFB program or being president of a university with 25k+ enrollment. That is why teachers make less than them. It basic supply/demand and it is irrefutable. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it not true.
A 22 yr old kid can come out of college and get a job teaching grade school. However, the same kid cannot come out of college and be a Div1 head football coach or the President of a University. Experience, level of qualifications, proven track record are all qualities that command a higher level of compensation. Someone with a PhD should make more than someone with a BS. If you are a grade school teacher and you want to make more than $30-40k/year, then go back to school instead of whining and making excuses. Because a person goes to school for 20+years to finally earn a PhD doesn't make them a better person than anyone else....but it dam/n sure puts them in a position to earn more than someone that hasn't....AND they sure as heck shouldn't be chastised for being paid what someone else has offered them.
Also the last time I checked, no Div I football coach had "tenure" and could not be fired for performance. I bet Rich Rodriguez would opt for the same benefits as a state employee right now, considering he lost his high dollar job due to underperformance.
Comparing a high dollar college football coach and a high school teacher is like comparing apples to oranges, they may be the same class (ie, fruit), but other than that there is not a lot of similarities.
Comparing a high dollar college football coach and a high school teacher is like comparing apples to oranges, they may be the same class (ie, fruit), but other than that there is not a lot of similarities.