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Originally posted by barbaros45:
Why not have basic training for our troops on the border...it doesnt take long to build a hooch and it sure would be cheaper than building a fence. take a company, battalion, whatever it takes...spread them out along the border...guess that isnt "politically correct"


Only if they are allowed to carry guns, and use them if necessary. Even if only paint ball or bb guns.
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Originally posted by elinterventor01:
The double fence arrangement Israel built between itself and Gaza is one of the best -- few penetrations.

Actually, when raids cleared out illegals in several businesses, they were swamped with US citizens applying for the jobs.


sorry, i have a hard time believing that, maybe now with 20% unemployment, but not when the economy is in good shape.
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I am all in tears over Obama's 'concern' regarding Arizona's recent decision re: illegal aliens. I am even MORE torn up over Mexico's statement that this decision could 'endanger' relations.

NOT! Roll Eyes


i'm with you dog, i think i'll have to go see my shrink tomorrow, oh wait, i think he's in jail or something Wink
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Originally posted by onepatriot7:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I am all in tears over Obama's 'concern' regarding Arizona's recent decision re: illegal aliens. I am even MORE torn up over Mexico's statement that this decision could 'endanger' relations.

NOT! Roll Eyes


i'm with you dog, i think i'll have to go see my shrink tomorrow, oh wait, i think he's in jail or something Wink


He's not an illegal, by chance?
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Originally posted by canade:
quote:
Originally posted by barbaros45:
Why not have basic training for our troops on the border...it doesnt take long to build a hooch and it sure would be cheaper than building a fence. take a company, battalion, whatever it takes...spread them out along the border...guess that isnt "politically correct"



Only if they are allowed to carry guns, and use them if necessary. Even if only paint ball or bb guns.


I'll help Sassy with that fence, but I also believe that stationing troops on the border is a great idea as well. Unlike Bush's orders not to fire, I think they should have orders to fire at will.

On the other hand, I think companies that hire illegals should be held accountable at the CEO level. (they should serve jail time). If I can go to Europe, or Asia and use my credit card , don't tell me there is no way to verify someone being in this country legally. Drying up the job market for illegals may be the best way to stop it.
As to who would do the crap jobs, there is a legal way for them to obtain entry to do those jobs.
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
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Originally posted by onepatriot7:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I am all in tears over Obama's 'concern' regarding Arizona's recent decision re: illegal aliens. I am even MORE torn up over Mexico's statement that this decision could 'endanger' relations.

NOT! Roll Eyes


i'm with you dog, i think i'll have to go see my shrink tomorrow, oh wait, i think he's in jail or something Wink


He's not an illegal, by chance?


no, it was a bad joke aimed at Dr. Roddy and crew. I've never actually met the man though.

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