I haven't heard anyone say who they think a good candidate from the Republican Party would be. I am curious to hear from the Republicans here who they support, or who they think will run.
I am guessing the Ted Cruz is out of the question. Maybe Chris Christie? I think most of the hardcore Republicans will no longer back Rubio because he supported the current Immigration bill.
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Hopefully not some gray headed old man and not Christie, nor some fanatic from the religious right !
yes I am a republican
Scott Walker and Rand Paul..........
Probably Christie for the serious one, with a sampling of Cruz, Rand Paul, and hopefully Santorum , and , lets see, I can't , can't remember who the other one is, just to show how sane Christie is.
Republicans tend to recycle their presidential candidates. Don't jump on me, that's just an observation down thru the years.
I wouldn't think Cruz is eligible for the Presidency. He was born in Canada.
Given the ineptitude of the party, and the choices presented thus far...
THIS guy would have as much of a chance as any!
what happened to Bobby Jindahl ? he appeared to be an up -and -coming guy not long ago
McCain of course.
Christie and McCain are 'RINOs' and not worthy of consideration. I'd vote for Rand Paul.
A buddy and I were discussing this very thing. I can't honestly see any GOP candidate that will excite people and get them to the polls.
I wouldn't think Cruz is eligible for the Presidency. He was born in Canada.
How quickly you forget, McCain was born in Panama. It's OK if you are a Republican.
I wouldn't think Cruz is eligible for the Presidency. He was born in Canada.
Jank, I don't at this time particularly support Cruz, but from what I've read, Constitutional scholars divide citizens into three groups:
1. Naturalized - no way they can run for this office.
2. Native born
3. Natural born
All native born citizens are also natural born citizens, but not all natural born are native born as with Cruz and McClain. These same scholars look forward to a natural born citizen running so that this can be settled in courts.
As with McClain, there was some doubt that he was actually born in the military zone, but this was never publicized very much.
I think difference between Cruz and McCain is that both of McCains parents were Americans and the family was living in Panama due to his fathers military service. Cruz's father is Canadian and his mother is American. His parents were living in his fathers country for their own personal reasons when he was born.
If Cruz runs for President I am looking forward to how the Republicans will spin this after the way they tried to paint President Obama as "not an American". Even if he had been born in Kenya as many of them falsely accuse, would his situation not be the exactly the same as Cruz's? His mother was an American after all.
I think it will be Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, maybe Jindel, and Scott Walker.
What about the boycotting of the networks by the RNC? Why would they limit their audience? Seems like cutting their nose off to spite their face.
I think difference between Cruz and McCain is that both of McCains parents were Americans and the family was living in Panama due to his fathers military service. Cruz's father is Canadian and his mother is American. His parents were living in his fathers country for their own personal reasons when he was born.
If Cruz runs for President I am looking forward to how the Republicans will spin this after the way they tried to paint President Obama as "not an American". Even if he had been born in Kenya as many of them falsely accuse, would his situation not be the exactly the same as Cruz's? His mother was an American after all.
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McCain was covered by a series of laws going back to the 1780s that granted citizenship to children of US diplomats and other federal employees, if born overseas. The birther bunch originally used a law that did not grant citizenship to the children, if only one was a citizen and not of majority age. Obama would have not have qualified for citizenship if he were born overseas -- he wasn't. Since then, they've used the natural born argument, which has never been interpreted in court as they argued. Democrats tried to disqualify Goldwater as he was born in Arizona when it was a territory, not a state. That didn't fly, either.
I think difference between Cruz and McCain is that both of McCains parents were Americans and the family was living in Panama due to his fathers military service. Cruz's father is Canadian and his mother is American. His parents were living in his fathers country for their own personal reasons when he was born.
If Cruz runs for President I am looking forward to how the Republicans will spin this after the way they tried to paint President Obama as "not an American". Even if he had been born in Kenya as many of them falsely accuse, would his situation not be the exactly the same as Cruz's? His mother was an American after all.
It's exactly the same. The parent or parents of a child born to a U.S. citizen(s) outside the U.S. have so much time to register their child at an American embassy. I would have to look up the time frame. If they don't, the child can later claim U.S. citizenship, but it apparently takes much more paperwork.
I have never read any scholarly work, or even unscholarly work, that presents there's a difference in having one or two U.S. parents. The only difference with Obama would have been his mother not registering him if he had been born in Kenya, which I highly doubt.
I think it will be Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, maybe Jindel, and Scott Walker.
What about the boycotting of the networks by the RNC? Why would they limit their audience? Seems like cutting their nose off to spite their face.
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Or, they could demand to the FEC that the two networks give equal time to a documentary on their candidate. Or, that the networks both be banned from broadcasting for several months.
I think difference between Cruz and McCain is that both of McCains parents were Americans and the family was living in Panama due to his fathers military service. Cruz's father is Canadian and his mother is American. His parents were living in his fathers country for their own personal reasons when he was born.
If Cruz runs for President I am looking forward to how the Republicans will spin this after the way they tried to paint President Obama as "not an American". Even if he had been born in Kenya as many of them falsely accuse, would his situation not be the exactly the same as Cruz's? His mother was an American after all.
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McCain was covered by a series of laws going back to the 1780s that granted citizenship to children of US diplomats and other federal employees, if born overseas. The birther bunch originally used a law that did not grant citizenship to the children, if only one was a citizen and not of majority age. Obama would have not have qualified for citizenship if he were born overseas -- he wasn't. Since then, they've used the natural born argument, which has never been interpreted in court as they argued. Democrats tried to disqualify Goldwater as he was born in Arizona when it was a territory, not a state. That didn't fly, either.
Again, the "problem" would be is there a difference in a natural born citizen and a native born citizen? No one claims McClain or Goldwater or Cruz aren't/weren't natural citizens, just not native citizens. I see no difference myself, but some do and look forward to the SCOTUS ruling on it.
I think difference between Cruz and McCain is that both of McCains parents were Americans and the family was living in Panama due to his fathers military service. Cruz's father is Canadian and his mother is American. His parents were living in his fathers country for their own personal reasons when he was born.
If Cruz runs for President I am looking forward to how the Republicans will spin this after the way they tried to paint President Obama as "not an American". Even if he had been born in Kenya as many of them falsely accuse, would his situation not be the exactly the same as Cruz's? His mother was an American after all.
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McCain was covered by a series of laws going back to the 1780s that granted citizenship to children of US diplomats and other federal employees, if born overseas. The birther bunch originally used a law that did not grant citizenship to the children, if only one was a citizen and not of majority age. Obama would have not have qualified for citizenship if he were born overseas -- he wasn't. Since then, they've used the natural born argument, which has never been interpreted in court as they argued. Democrats tried to disqualify Goldwater as he was born in Arizona when it was a territory, not a state. That didn't fly, either.
Again, the "problem" would be is there a difference in a natural born citizen and a native born citizen? No one claims McClain or Goldwater or Cruz aren't/weren't natural citizens, just not native citizens. I see no difference myself, but some do and look forward to the SCOTUS ruling on it.
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I look forward to the day when this crazy birther crowd realizes that there a set of islands in the middle of the Pacific named Hawaii, and that they became a state in my lifetime and I remember.
Those islands are not named Kenya . Just more and more nutty teabagger nonsense elevating the status of the dumb and stupid.
I think difference between Cruz and McCain is that both of McCains parents were Americans and the family was living in Panama due to his fathers military service. Cruz's father is Canadian and his mother is American. His parents were living in his fathers country for their own personal reasons when he was born.
If Cruz runs for President I am looking forward to how the Republicans will spin this after the way they tried to paint President Obama as "not an American". Even if he had been born in Kenya as many of them falsely accuse, would his situation not be the exactly the same as Cruz's? His mother was an American after all.
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McCain was covered by a series of laws going back to the 1780s that granted citizenship to children of US diplomats and other federal employees, if born overseas. The birther bunch originally used a law that did not grant citizenship to the children, if only one was a citizen and not of majority age. Obama would have not have qualified for citizenship if he were born overseas -- he wasn't. Since then, they've used the natural born argument, which has never been interpreted in court as they argued. Democrats tried to disqualify Goldwater as he was born in Arizona when it was a territory, not a state. That didn't fly, either.
Again, the "problem" would be is there a difference in a natural born citizen and a native born citizen? No one claims McClain or Goldwater or Cruz aren't/weren't natural citizens, just not native citizens. I see no difference myself, but some do and look forward to the SCOTUS ruling on it.
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I look forward to the day when this crazy birther crowd realizes that there a set of islands in the middle of the Pacific named Hawaii, and that they became a state in my lifetime and I remember.
Those islands are not named Kenya . Just more and more nutty teabagger nonsense elevating the status of the dumb and stupid.
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I'd be careful with that, remember it was the Democrat birthers that attempted to deny Goldwater his candidacy.
I hope that Cruz does attempt to run. I can't wait to see the spin they put on it. President Obama was born in the US. Yet the argument they used was that he was born in Kenya, and even though his mother was an American it disqualified him for office. Of course that wasn't true. In the case of Cruz that is exactly what happened. He was born in Canada to an American mother and Canadian father. It should be interested to see how they back peddle.
Kate, I'm not sure of all the legalities of Natural born vs. Native Born either. For me, I just assumed that most Republicans would have a problem with his birth status since it was such a manufactured issue for Obama.
I do find it funny that no one offered up the argument that because his (Obama)mother was American it gave him legal status,(even though most sane people know he was born in Hawaii) but now that sounds like what the Republicans are probably going to use for Cruz.
There used to be real problems for children born overseas with US parents in the military, They had to stay about three years in the US, if memory serves me, before age of majority, to keep their citizenship. Many had to live with friends and grandparents to ensure their citizenship. That has long been corrected.
I think difference between Cruz and McCain is that both of McCains parents were Americans and the family was living in Panama due to his fathers military service. Cruz's father is Canadian and his mother is American. His parents were living in his fathers country for their own personal reasons when he was born.
If Cruz runs for President I am looking forward to how the Republicans will spin this after the way they tried to paint President Obama as "not an American". Even if he had been born in Kenya as many of them falsely accuse, would his situation not be the exactly the same as Cruz's? His mother was an American after all.
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McCain was covered by a series of laws going back to the 1780s that granted citizenship to children of US diplomats and other federal employees, if born overseas. The birther bunch originally used a law that did not grant citizenship to the children, if only one was a citizen and not of majority age. Obama would have not have qualified for citizenship if he were born overseas -- he wasn't. Since then, they've used the natural born argument, which has never been interpreted in court as they argued. Democrats tried to disqualify Goldwater as he was born in Arizona when it was a territory, not a state. That didn't fly, either.
Again, the "problem" would be is there a difference in a natural born citizen and a native born citizen? No one claims McClain or Goldwater or Cruz aren't/weren't natural citizens, just not native citizens. I see no difference myself, but some do and look forward to the SCOTUS ruling on it.
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I look forward to the day when this crazy birther crowd realizes that there a set of islands in the middle of the Pacific named Hawaii, and that they became a state in my lifetime and I remember.
Those islands are not named Kenya . Just more and more nutty teabagger nonsense elevating the status of the dumb and stupid.
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I'd be careful with that, remember it was the Democrat birthers that attempted to deny Goldwater his candidacy.
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Dire try to stay with the current situation. 
Goldwater? Really? Of course you know that with Goldwater there was a smidgeon of reason for the controversy. With Obama he was born in the US. There should never have been a question.
The Birthers are just plain nuts. Conspiracy theory nuts. No where near the same as those that questioned Goldwaters candidacy. They were wrong, but at least they weren't making up wild stories of fake birth certificates, and a conspiracy that started over 40 years ago to make sure a baby of mixed birth would one day become president of the US. 
I have to change my statement that Cruz's father was Canadian. He was in fact Cuban. From all that I have read today, I have no doubt that he is eligible to run for President. I do however think that all those that have questioned whether or not President Obama was a US citizen will have to eat some crow if they support Cruz in the race for President. Not that they will, most of them are so delusional they will find someway to say its not the same thing.
I also think that the best chance the Republicans have for winning in 2016 would be Chris Christie. I don't personally agree with everything he stands for, but he is the most bipartisan and he is liked by many Independents and conservative Democrats. As of today he probably has the best shot. IMO
Let's see--between now and the next election, at the current pace virtually all prominent veteran Republicans will have been relegated to the RINO herd. Rubio, no veteran GOPer, has already been RINO'd by the Tea Party bozos. The GOP decision on their nominee will reveal whether they will continue to kow-tow to the wackadoodles or return to some semblance of the party they were before half of it it went bonkers.
As to Democrats, remember when they field an east coast liberal like Kerry and, yes, Gore, even though he was from Tennessee, they lose.
I agree with you about Christie.
I hope he runs.
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If I were running the Republican party, I think I would throw the match with the weakest possible candidate and give the Presidency to Hillary. The next president should catch the usual change of decade recession (plus or minus a couple of years) plus the liabilities of the Obama years. There is also the possibility that the bill for decades of over-promised benefits along with the bill for decades of social engineering will come due.
As to Democrats, remember when they field an east coast liberal like Kerry and, yes, Gore, even though he was from Tennessee, they lose.
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But the GOP got lots of help in both those elections, from the Supreme Court and from the lying weasel Jerome Corsi and his lies about swift boat operations.
As to Democrats, remember when they field an east coast liberal like Kerry and, yes, Gore, even though he was from Tennessee, they lose.
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But the GOP got lots of help in both those elections, from the Supreme Court and from the lying weasel Jerome Corsi and his lies about swift boat operations.
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Now, Contendah, I know progressives like to make up law and rules to meet the occasion. You're just angry the Dems didn't get away with it as they usually do. First, the Florida Supreme Court attempted to breach the Florida Constitution allowing a prolonged new count -- making up the rules as they went for the ballots the Dem voters messed up the ballots that a Democrat designed. The US Supreme Court, which also has the duty to ensure that states follow their own state constitutions, did their duty. And, as proven by the count sponsored by the NY Times, Bush won the Florida count.
Now, as to Jerome Corsi, nothing he did could compare with the media wide counterfeit documentation used by Dan Rather, to vilify Bush. The national media and a once respected reporter attempted to set in place a lie with documentation that was impossible to exist at that time. And, ignored Air Force Reserve regulations as to pay and attendance.
I hope it isn't Christie, he might win. Any of those other clowns will give us another Democratic president.
dont' worry jt, the republicans will NEVER run christie... he actually praised obama and some republicans blame romney's loss on christie's actions. he's toast in the republican party.
Dire you should run on the repub ticket? You have established a great platform already full of talking points on the forum here that appeals to the repub voters. <<snicker>>
Dire you should run on the repub ticket? You have established a great platform already full of talking points on the forum here that appeals to the repub voters. <<snicker>>
Guess WE should ALL be so Lucky as to have YOUR DNA make-up...
(snicker...snicker...snicker)
Actually, Dire is probably better suited than most of the others
If, given a choice, I would stay as far from politics as a Jehadi does from a pig. However, now I find with the present leadership, I must show some interest.
dire for repub offering.
Christie would be the only guy that would intrigue me enough to consider voting Republican. If Rand Paul was more liberal on social issues then I might could get on board with him. However, I will probably vote for whoever the Libertarians put up assuming he/she isn't a complete bozo.
