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Give me a dollar because you will see me again! and I admitted that I was not the perfect man. If you will read the letters I said that I didnt want to be devorced! I wanted to stay married and work things out! READ the post before you blast me! I never said you were not a fit mom! I know you are! As for my past I was no angel, I have mentioned to people that for ten years I wasn't walking with Him, and I know I am forgiving of my past transgressions. They were paid for at the Cross! as for useing my name, I have nothing to hide.
Of course I'm back!! do you think I would have took the stand for Christ like I did just to back down because someone threw a rock at me? I struggle with things like everyone else does. I have my faults like everyone else and if you read what I posted you will see that I never claimed that she was unfit, never said I didn't have faults. I with the Grace of God will continue to walk with Him! Anything you all want to ask, ask! I've been to jail twice, I used to be addicted to pain killers, I've been drunk more than once.
what about.......even after her 3 or 4 affairs you still gave me chances???????? what the crap is that all about. If you don't remember you gave me permission, so there was nothing for me to be forgiven for. You made me look like a cheating wh***re when it came out of your mouth first, for me to see who ever I wanted.
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Originally posted by mdm72906:
You didn't refer to me as a bad mom, but someone who replied to your lies did. They asked you am I the kind of woman you wanted to raise your child.......

I did not see that post because I had gone to bed! I would have told him that you have changed and would never think of seperating you and her! Look at the time of the post. And if I was lying would I have told you about this forum? This has been the first time I have been on since last night.
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Originally posted by mdm72906:
I have changed??????....I never had affairs that you didn't give me permission for. You were talking about forgiving me for affairs and giving me 2nd chances like you were the one that divorced me. You made it sound like that was why we divorced.


Please, guys, this isn't the place to discuss this. Its inappropriate to discuss private matters in public venues. Remember, things on the internet seem to stay around for long long periods of time. Would you want your family members, friends, or children to find this conversation one day?
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Originally posted by FoshaBen:
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Originally posted by mdm72906:
I have changed??????....I never had affairs that you didn't give me permission for. You were talking about forgiving me for affairs and giving me 2nd chances like you were the one that divorced me. You made it sound like that was why we divorced.

Thank you that was what what I was I was going to say. this is no place for hanging personal laundry
Please, guys, this isn't the place to discuss this. Its inappropriate to discuss private matters in public venues. Remember, things on the internet seem to stay around for long long periods of time. Would you want your family members, friends, or children to find this conversation one day?
Fosha is right. However, it was Micah that brought it up days ago about his divorce, so it kind of opened the line to that discussion. Smiler

I like drama, just as much as the next person, though. So, I see no problem with her defending herself against his words at all. He aired out her dirty laundry, so she should have a right to air out how clean that dirty laundry is. It's only fair, since of course, it was done publicly too.

Had this happened on an individual thread, where the whole post consisted of that, then I'd probably say that the odds of children/family finding it would be increased. But, it didn't, it happened on a thread about Christianity and the first 90+ pages were all about that. It cuts down the chances.

I do agree that perhaps handling this in private would be better, but hey I have no qualms about it being handled however they handle it. It doesn't take away from the thread itself, at least in my opinion.

It further validates that no one is perfect, and even someone that feels they are a great Christian now, has done/said or continues to do/say things that aren't really Christ-like. It happens to us all, to preach that you are above it, is hypocrisy. Smiler

~Amanda
Hi to my TimesDaily Friends,

Since my recent story about the Divine Attorney was so well received; I thought maybe I would share another story with you. This one I wrote myself. I pray that you will enjoy it. Keep in mind that while the story is fictional, and the characters are fictional, there is so much truth in the tale itself. You might call it a prophetic short story.

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NOTHING COMES TO FORUMLAND!

Once upon a time, long ago, in a land far away named Oblivion, there lived two atheist friends. These friends were named Argue and Debate. Now, one thing that both Argue and Debate agreed upon was that they believed strongly in Nothing. This was their faith, their religion, the religion of Nothing. They worshipped Nothing; they adored Nothing; their lives were dedicated to Nothing.

One day, as they were wandering around in search of Nothing, they happened to stumble upon a new valley, the valley of Forumland. Oh, they were so excited. "Maybe," chimed Argue, "we can find others here who know Nothing!"

"Yes," declared Debate, "if not, we can surely introduce them to Nothing!"

They were so excited; possibly there were many people here who either knew Nothing -- or could be lured into knowing Nothing.

"Just imagine the possibilities, if we can convince many others to also believe in Nothing," Debate told Argue. "Then, maybe we can build a cathedral dedicated to Nothing. That will be a glorious tribute to our god, Nothing."

So, in the new valley of Forumland, Argue and Debate set about to plant their seeds and to lay plans for building their cathedral to Nothing. First, they had to develop a relationship with the people of Forumland. "Come," said Debate, "we will get into a conversation with them; assure them that we are Friends; and then we can talk about Nothing."

Walking along in Forumland, the two friends happened upon a small group of Forumland residents. Right away, Argue and Debate began to talk with these good folks. Discovering that many of these folks believed in someone called God; the two friends were somewhat taken aback. But, that did not deter them. They were determined that these folks were going to become followers of Nothing.

Argue began, in his sly way, to lead the group of Forumland residents into a discussion. He asked, "Do you really believe in this God? Why do you believe that He really exists?"

One local fellow, Bill, replied, "Truthfully, until twenty years ago, I was very much like the two of you. I wandered in the world, loving the ways of the world, and following Nothing. But, then a Friend told me about God -- and this Friend was so full of love, warmth, and peace, I realized he must have something that I was lacking. I had Nothing; but, he had his God. I was wandering; but, he was grounded in love and peace."

"So, when he told me about his God, I began to investigate this new Person. I went to church, I went to Bible studies -- and one thing I noticed was that these folks in church and Bible study also had this love and peace I was lacking. Because of this, I kept going to church and Bible study. I kept learning more and more about this God. And, the more I learned, the more I realized that the god, Nothing, that I had been following was just that -- he was Nothing."

"After six months of this, I felt this love and peace coming into my heart. I was surprised; but, I said, 'Yes, God, please come into my heart and bring all of Your love and peace. I want to follow You and Your Son, Jesus Christ.'

"Since then, I have had God's love and peace in my life. Really, Argue and Debate, you should try it. You should go to a Bible-teaching church and Bible study and see if you can rid yourself of Nothing and find God."

Of course, Argue began to argue, "You say that this love and peace JUST came into your heart?"

"No," replied Bill, "As I learned more about God, I began to realize that He had what was missing in my life. Then, I began to seek Him; I wanted to know more about Him. It took me about six months to realize that I wanted Him to be my Lord and Savior. That is when I prayed and asked Him to come into my heart; that is when I was saved -- and love and peace came into my heart -- for He forgave me all my sins."

So, debated Debate, "If it is that easy, I guess that even Hitler might have been saved?"

"Actually," Bill told him, "Yes, even Hitler could have been saved if he had sincerely turned to the Lord in repentance and asked Jesus to come into his heart. That said, I truly doubt that he did -- for he scoffed at everything of God." "

"You see," Bill continues, "the only sin which cannot be forgiven is the sin of rejecting Jesus Christ; for by rejecting Him you condemn yourself. By rejecting Him, you, by default, choose to follow Satan -- and this action of yours condemns you to an eternity with Satan."

Then, Bill told them, "Even Judas Iscariot could have been saved if he had truly repented. Yet, the Bible tells us that Judas was indwelt by Satan at the Last Supper and never repented. We read about this is John 13:26-27 and Mark 14:21. Oh, Judas was sorry about his action of taking thirty pieces of silver as his price to betray Jesus. And, Judas ended much like Hitler, by taking his own life. We read about this in Matthew 27:3-10."

By now, Debate is incensed, "I suppose you even believe in the myth of Creationism?"

"Actually," Bill smiled, "Yes, I do. If you are sincerely interested I can explain. You see, nature, the human body, the universe, the relationship between the earth, the sun, the planets, moon, and stars -- all of these things declare the glory of God and His Creation. Later, if you are interested I can give you much more detail to prove that Creation is indeed true and factual."

This really gets under Debate's skin; he responds, "Evolution is the only thing that is factual and true. I can give you many web sites which prove evolution!"

Bill responds to Debate's challenge, "No, Debate, rather than showing me what other evolutionists who are devoted to Nothing write; why don't you tell me, in detail, why you believe in evolution."

Debate sputters and fumes, "No, you are really stupid. I tell you that evolution is factual; but you will not listen!"

"No, Debate," said Bill, "You tell me to look at web sites written by others; but, you have not given me any knowledge or facts which come from you. Tell me exactly what you know about evolution and why it is factual. Remember, even Charles Darwin said that if scientist cannot show a transitional 'missing link' fossil record -- then, evolution is gasping its last breath. What can you personally tell me, from your own knowledge, that will show me, absolutely, that evolution is alive and well?"

Angrily, Debate declares, "Bill, you are really stupid. Look at this web site, www.blah-blah-blah.com and there are others. Go to this web site: www.hotair.com Are you so thick headed and moronic that you cannot read what these honest, sincere evolutionists, followers of Nothing, have written?"

"No," Bill once again replied, "I want to know what you, Debate, and you, Argue, know; not what a bunch of other Nothing followers tell you. What do you know? Can you, from your own knowledge, tell me why evolution is factual? Don't just huff and puff, calling me names. Show me the meat! Show me the 'missing link' fossils. Lay it on me!"

Now, both Debate and Argue are boiling, "Bill, you are too stupid for us to waste our time. We don't want to talk with you anymore. Just go away and leave us to tell these good people about Nothing."

Smiling, Bill tells them, "I am sorry, my atheist Friends, but I cannot leave Forumland and allow you to build your cathedral to Nothing. I must make sure that these good folks, my home town family, at least have the Word of God to balance against your words of Nothing."

And, so, the saga of God versus Nothing continues in Forumland; each with their champions; each continuing to share his truth or His Truth -- until one day Jesus comes and Raptures His followers away -- leaving Forumland totally in the hands of Nothing.

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Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of "Nothing Comes To Forumland."

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill Gray
billdory@pacbell.net

Alabama bred,
California fed,
Blessed by God to be a Christian American!
Roll Eyes

Bill,

Once there was a guy who asked a simple question about transitional fossils. He got perfectly fine answers.

Still, he was incapable of admitting the truth, and accused those who gave him the answers of following Satan. The questioner was delusional and full of pride and would not change his mind from his pre-existing conclusion.

Everybody laughed at him for being so silly.

The End.
Manda, my dear, I shall sign a First Edition for you here. Just print it out.

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Bill,

Once there was a guy who asked a simple question about transitional fossils. He got perfectly fine answers.

Still, he was incapable of admitting the truth, and accused those who gave him the answers of following Satan. The questioner was delusional and full of pride and would not change his mind from his pre-existing conclusion.

Everybody laughed at him for being so silly.

The End.

DeepFat
Hi all,

Boy, the saga of "Nothing Comes To Forumland" is continuing in fine form. As usual, there are the impotent declarations, the name calling, the attempted put downs.

But, there is still one thing which is so OBVIOUSLY missing.

Where's the meat? Where are the verified "missing link" fossil records. I guess they are still missing. Maybe they are still evolving.

Bye, now. Y'all come back, now, you heah?

Bill
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Originally posted by miamizsun:
rotf

-note to self-

Don't tell ex about forum posts....

I think we've all learned a valuable lesson here.

btw, welcome mdm!

What is the lesson? Have you any information that I wouldn't have told you myself? Have I lied to you? Ask her and if she is truthfull she will tell you that I told her about a week ago to check it out! She told me that she looked at them all the time. I had no reason to think she wasn't reading them. Where is the lesson?
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Originally posted by Micah_Eaton:
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Originally posted by miamizsun:
rotf

-note to self-

Don't tell ex about forum posts....

I think we've all learned a valuable lesson here.

btw, welcome mdm!

What is the lesson? Have you any information that I wouldn't have told you myself? Have I lied to you? Ask her and if she is truthfull she will tell you that I told her about a week ago to check it out! She told me that she looked at them all the time. I had no reason to think she wasn't reading them. Where is the lesson?


mic, I would think that would be pretty clear here.

Airing detailed personal/marital grievances in a public forum setting isn't very becoming.

regards, miamizsun
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Originally posted by mdm72906:
again....guys.....i'm sorry you had to witness this


I don't blame you for speaking up for yourself! He opened the door when he mentioned your cheating on him not once but 4 times, (his words, not mine). I think most women would have done the same thing you did.
He sure ran quickly, didn't he?
Big Grin

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