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First of all, there are three canidates running for the office of sheriff in Lauderdale County. Two are Democrats, one Republician. Willis and Holden are running on the Democratic ticket. Ty Barlett is running on the Republican unopposed. The real race for the office of sheriff will start after the preliminary elections. Don't underestimate Barlett.
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Originally posted by Stinky Inc.:
First of all, there are three canidates running for the office of sheriff in Lauderdale County. Two are Democrats, one Republician. Willis and Holden are running on the Democratic ticket. Ty Barlett is running on the Republican unopposed. The real race for the office of sheriff will start after the preliminary elections. Don't underestimate Barlett.


I'd be more impressed with your post if you knew his name.

It's Barrett. Not Barlett. Big Grin
I am going to vote for Terry Holden. He has done a great job with Killen and Rogersville. It is time for a change. Im tired of hearing these deputies run all over the county and only three be on duty. They deserve better than that. Ronnie Willis is a good man but as a Sheriff he just cant cut it. It's pretty bad when you hear his deputies say they and there families are going to vote for Terry Holden becouse they are also ready for a change. I am going to give Mr. Holden a chance becouse he cant be any worse than Willis and since most of his staff is voting for Holden then thats who I fill should be in office.
I have work with terry for 4 years. and work under Willis. hand down Terry has show me more about the law. had he told me the law man is here for the people. to help the people. that stay in my head and still there. if you dont know him look him up and he will sat down and chat with you. when you walk away you will see that he is a person you will like to help you and your family.
i'm voting against willis, because he is the incumbant.
i don't know who i'm voting for yet, it'll depend on the final ballot.

an elected position is supposed to be a temp job. it was never intended for people to make a career out of running for office like the kennedy's.

until they impose term limits on ALL elected positions i will continue to vote against the incumbant regardless of the job they are doing.
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Originally posted by Eastside:
Hmmm...one set of good ol' boys for another regardless of the 3 candidates. Willis has his, Holden has his and Barrett certainly has his. Personally, I think Willis does a great job. I think it will be Holden vs him in November.


No. Willis and Holden are Dems. Barrett doesn't have any Repubs opposing him. You'll vote for Willis or Holden next week if you vote in the Dem primary. The winner will face Barrett in the Nov Gen Election.

As Falcon said, both Dems don't have any education, but Willis is the lesser of two evils.
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Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
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Originally posted by Eastside:
Hmmm...one set of good ol' boys for another regardless of the 3 candidates. Willis has his, Holden has his and Barrett certainly has his. Personally, I think Willis does a great job. I think it will be Holden vs him in November.


No. Willis and Holden are Dems. Barrett doesn't have any Repubs opposing him. You'll vote for Willis or Holden next week if you vote in the Dem primary. The winner will face Barrett in the Nov Gen Election.

As Falcon said, both Dems don't have any education, but Willis is the lesser of two evils.


Sorry I had that mixed up -- I think it will be Barrett & Willis November, thanks for the correction.

For the one that mentioned breaks in in the East end of the county and can't get anyone to come out -- isn't that Barrett's end of the county?
There are two three police departments in what is considered "the east." Barrett was once the chief in Rogersville but is no longer. That would be Holden. And there are so many issues of which the people of this county are ignorant. First is that the county commission has way too controlling of a role in the sheriff's expenditures. They have repeatedly denied Willis things he has wanted. Second is that no deputy is encouraged to write tickets so not to anger the constituency. So much for traffic enforcement. Some take it upon themselves to enforce the rules of the road but its still a political environment. Last is that until the citizens start requesting the addition of deputies and traffic enforcement you won't get it no matter who we elect.
So holden is responabile for the speed traps in killen and rogersville. Don't forget the 45 MPH speed limit for at least 5 miles outside of rogersville. Can we get a bypass around these two towns? The deputies should not be writing general speeding tickets unless it is serious. For me I want the deputies to travel as much as possible on the roads to show their presents to prevent house breakins or stealing of property, not setting up speed traps.
If your speeding and know what the limits are, then it is not a trap! Now if your from some place and never been thru Rogersville or Killen , then it maybe defferant. So I know when I go thru these towns if I am going over the limit what may can happen.
Yes you can drive thru Decatur , or go up thru Tenn. if you don't want to go thru Rogersville . I do not think these Officers put up the signs, maybe the city or mayor has them up for a reason. Same as the State as you cross Elk River it is 60, not 65 as it is West of Rogersville and if raining 45 .
I kind of assumed that deputies didn't write speeding tickets and left that "duty" to the State Troopers. I would rather them constantly be on the road and in the communities keeping criminals at bay and being available when things happen and being quicker responding to wrecks than to be writing tickets to someone going 50mph on a 45mph road. However, there are 2 that live in the apartments near me and their cars are often at their apartment when they are "on duty" -- while I'm sure sometimes that is for lunch or a potty break, if they are on the clock or on shift and they are not keeping the roads hot then that is an issue for me.
Awhile back I read a article from a spokeman from the Al Dep of Trans. talking about the low speed limit at rogersville. He stated the speed was lowered at the request of the mayor of rogersville who I would assume requested that because the police chief asked him to. It is easier to lower the speed limit than to ask for an increase in the limit. Most of the time the state will do a traffic study, but the mayor has a lot to do with picking the final limit. I wish I could go back and find that, but I no ideal of the date. A lot of the problem with these two towns is the power control thing of the police, it's their way of telling you that they are in charge and do as they say. If the state would just build a bypass about 2-3 miles north of these towns that would solve everyones problem.
jmmgj5 clearly you have not thought this through or studied very well. Go back and look at the fatal wreck statistics of when the speed limit was higher till present time. Maybe if you would do the speed limit when you go though these towns you will not have any problems. If you are going to base your vote of this then clearly you havent looked into this election and the men running. Go speak to a sheriff's deputy and ask him who he want's to have as sheriff. Ronnie Willis is a good man dont get me wrong but he has not done anything positive to improve this county or the department the last four years. These deputies are still out here at night running there butts off becouse they are so short handed and the county commission has already approved for him to hire two and has been approved for almost a month now and he refuses to hire until after primaries. Now tell me does that sound like a man who cares about his deputies.
The 45 speed limit in rogersville was set way before Terry Holden took the chiefs job and by the way I think rogersvile writes less tickets since Chief Holden took over because he limits the time that the officers spend running radar because he wants them patroling the neighborhoods catching a detering burgularys like they did this week
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Originally posted by bama1427:
The 45 speed limit in rogersville was set way before Terry Holden took the chiefs job and by the way I think rogersvile writes less tickets since Chief Holden took over because he limits the time that the officers spend running radar because he wants them patroling the neighborhoods catching a detering burgularys like they did this week



I'm sure they were in the neighborhoods this week because the city council told them to because they got a complaint from someone they know who got a speeding ticket. Next week they'll get a complaint about people driving too fast and they'll tell the officers to get back out on the highway. It's back and forth this way with small town councils. They are the ones telling police what to do.
The reason I mention traffic enforcement is because someone said they wanted deputies to write tickets. Take the opposite side of the coin. There were three deputies on duty last night. With all the miles of roads and many neighborhoods in this large county how can one deputy in each section possibly proactively catch a burglar? The lucky witness or alarm is the only chance. My point is that no matter who is elected Sheriff we need to provide our support with a balanced county commission who will provide him with the resources he needs.
servant, who said I had receive a ticket going thru rogersville. I have never receive a ticket there nor do I speed. I go by what the posted limit is at the time. I have studied the people running for this job and in my opinion, holden does not have enough experience to be the sheriff. Running a one horse town police force is not enough to run a 100 horse town. I haven't made a final decision on who I will vote for, but he is not among the major runners. People don't relize that when people travel 72 thru killen and rogersville, 80% are not stopping at these places, they are going thru them to get somewhere else. Highway 72 is a major road as bad as it is and people have to travel it. Like I said just build a bypass 2 or 3 miles north of these two towns and everyone will be happen. The 20% can stop there and they can lower the speed limit to 10 MPH if they want to, but the world does not revolve around these two towns. I haven't hear or read that a 10 MPH reduction has saved any lives there.
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Originally posted by jmmgj5:
servant, who said I had receive a ticket going thru rogersville. I have never receive a ticket there nor do I speed. I go by what the posted limit is at the time. I have studied the people running for this job and in my opinion, holden does not have enough experience to be the sheriff. Running a one horse town police force is not enough to run a 100 horse town. I haven't made a final decision on who I will vote for, but he is not among the major runners. People don't relize that when people travel 72 thru killen and rogersville, 80% are not stopping at these places, they are going thru them to get somewhere else. Highway 72 is a major road as bad as it is and people have to travel it. Like I said just build a bypass 2 or 3 miles north of these two towns and everyone will be happen. The 20% can stop there and they can lower the speed limit to 10 MPH if they want to, but the world does not revolve around these two towns. I haven't hear or read that a 10 MPH reduction has saved any lives there.


This was too funny, just had to reply.
jmmgj5, have you researched Willis work experience? He and Holden used to be good friends. I think you will find that Willis has pretty much the same work experience that Holden has. They've both been in law enforcement for a long time. Holden actually has more law experience than Willis. According to the sheriff's website, http://www.lauderdale-sheriff.org/; Willis has 25 years of experience. I think if you research Holden's work experience, you will find he has been in law enforcement longer.
I usually only read the forums, but today I think I'll add my pennies to the pile. First off, this topic (as most others usually do) has gone into right field. Who cares if Deputies are writing tickets? If someone is speeding guess what? They are breaking a state law and ANY sworn officer in the state of Alabama has the right and the duty to uphold those laws. I'll agree that 5 MPH over the limit is a bit much, but guess what again? That 5 MPH speeding stop opens up a chance to contact persons that may be drinking and driving, carrying drugs through YOUR neighborhood, or just someone with outstanding warrants. Stats show that over 80% of warrants are executed due to a traffic stop. I'm sure you're thinking that is because our deputies just aren't checking those warrants right? Wrong, warrants are checked all the time, but due to bad addresses on the warrants, people not being home at the time, and folks know they have warrants and refuse to answer a knock on the door... serving a warrant can be very tricky. Reguardless, who really cares if Deputies are writing tickets when trying to decide the better candidate for Sheriff!

Mr. Willis has held the title for almost 8 years, what has he accomplished? Gave the Deputies take home cars, added at least 3 new Deputy slots to the roster, started a few community watch programs, and is in the process of updating the departments communications (dispatch). It's true he has asked for more funding for other things from the Co. Comm. and been refused. There could be a whole tread about that all by itself!

Mr. Holden has worked in many different departments in many different job titles. He is experienced in patrol, investigation, drug task force, and as a department leader. You should be checking with those departments and seeing what he did to help those departments and their communities.

Base your decision on what you know about these men and not what you think you know. Surely don't base your decision on whether or not a Deputy writes a ticket!
Ronnie Willis in his last campaign adficated and placed a sub-station in the Center Star community to better serve the citizens of this part of the county. In the past year thefts and property damage in our community have gone haywire, particular in the Big Oak subdivision. The sub-station has no phone for lacal residents to call, and one of the calls made to the dispatchers office regarding a weekend of vandilism with inclued one house broken into and cars vandilized, as well as mail boxes nocked off, was greeted with the quotation that several local homeowners will probally be putting their homes up for sale. After promises to increase patrol, with has not happen I feel the county sheriff's department is not at all concerned with whats going on. I will not be voting for Ronnie Willis because he apparently does not take seriously what is happening in our community.
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Originally posted by jmmgj5:
To some of the people that were campaigning for terry holden and got a little aggressive about it, it looks like most voters feel like terry was not the best candidate for whatever reason for the job of sheriff.


Because politics is always about the best man for the job. Never backed Holden on here though.
With regards to putting out more patrols. Patrols cost money and that is part of the problem. The Sheriff doesn't have enough manpower and payroll to increase anything much of anywhere in a county the size of Lauderdale. The County Commission needs to get off their backsides and get the Sheriff what he needs to better protect the county. You can only work with what you have and basically it sounds like the people in Center Star want the patrols there which would most likely leave other communities un-patrolled. I have issues with Willis, but you have to realize that he only has so much for resources before you have to rob Peter to pay Paul.

I wish Holden the best and I hope he does well for Rogersville. Maybe if he proves himself in the coming months/years there it will bode well for him in the next election. Sorry folks, but if Holden couldn't eliminate Willis, I'm doubting Barrett will fare much better. It's not personal, I'm just looking at the big picture.

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