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Why Are They So
Afraid of Ron Paul?
Neocons and sectarian leftists unite to smear the antiwar Republican
by Justin Raimondo
As I predicted last month, the only consistently antiwar candidate on the Republican side of the aisle is breaking through – but in a spectacular manner that I certainly did not foresee. Suddenly, Paul is everywhere, from the Sunday morning talk shows to the length and breadth of the blogosphere. His amazing $4.2 million-in-one-day fundraising feat has entered the annals of presidential politics as the long-promised fulfillment of Internet-based political fundraising. And the myth that it's all online and not translatable into real people is belied by his recent 5,000-strong Philadelphia rally and similar events in Iowa and elsewhere. Paul has become the equivalent of a rock star among the young, and his appeal goes way beyond the usual libertarian crowd: liberals and conservatives, all races and cultural types, from home-schooling Christians to San Francisco pagans and everything in between. On the Internet, and in the streets, the Ron Paul Revolution, as his followers have dubbed their movement, is taking off.


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Perhaps, they're afraid Ron Paul supporters tapping our wallets.

"The presidential campaign of Texas Rep. Ron Paul received donations from overseas thieves using stolen credit cards, reports CBS station KTVT in Dallas/Fort Worth.

Investigators at Frost Bank discovered that the stolen cards were being used to make $5 contributions to the Paul campaign, in an apparent attempt to test the cards.

Frost Bank refunded money from nearly 100 customers and canceled all 500 of the credit cards that had been stolen from the bank. The Paul campaign tells CBSNews.com it has refunded to the bank the donations from the stolen cards, which amout to about $3,000."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/08/politics/main3472781.shtml
Possibly because of statments like this that he made:

In 1992, a copy of his newsletter, the Ron Paul Survival Report, criticized the judicial system in Washington, D.C., before adding, "I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." Under a section headlined "Terrorist Update," the following sentence ran, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/06/02/ron_paul/index1.html

I don't particularly care to have what appears to be a racist as president....do you?
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Originally posted by bluesman*:
They are all in it together, volume up, wait until it loads, there will be a pause in it, but it will keep on going http://www.flowgo.com/funny/13419_hillary-george-obama-musical.html




Look at it this way, if you gonna vote for a crook vote for one that will represent you. By judging things for the past 7 years I can't see democrats doing any worse than the republicans. The rich got the tax breaks, big oil got rich off of us by high gas prices. Any fool to vote republican this time around after what Bush and the republicans have done to this country would be a bigger fool.
I had to take a look back, since 1972 when I first stated voting for president, I voted 4 times as a Republican, 5 times as a Democrate, and what I am seeing today, from both the republicans and democrates, there is not a hell of a lot of difference between the both of them. It's all about the money now, and not the people.
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Originally posted by bluesman*:
I had to take a look back, since 1972 when I first stated voting for president, I voted 4 times as a Republican, 5 times as a Democrate, and what I am seeing today, from both the republicans and democrates, there is not a hell of a lot of difference between the both of them. It's all about the money now, and not the people.



If it were a big difference, you would see more people on PBA's side. You don't see the democrats in here helping him out do you? I guess because Pba gives the conservative democrats and republicans hell. That could be why.
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Originally posted by interventor:
That PBA and w_Z agree is no mystery. Perhaps, we should get Ex-marine's opinion.


Excuse me. I hate to throw a wrench in your monkey, but that was not PBA agreeing with me! I believe he was agreeing with what's her name. There obviously a lot I don't know about Ron Paul. But there's a lot I can agree with him on. Now there!
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Originally posted by w_z:
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Originally posted by interventor:
That PBA and w_Z agree is no mystery. Perhaps, we should get Ex-marine's opinion.


Excuse me. I hate to throw a wrench in your monkey, but that was not PBA agreeing with me! I believe he was agreeing with what's her name. There obviously a lot I don't know about Ron Paul. But there's a lot I can agree with him on. Now there!


I like Paul and he would be better than most but he is very conservative and would not be good for the middle class workers. Oh, the right wingers think we are of one. I don't have a problem with it if you don't. The right wingers are very good at attacks and try to scare people that disagree with them off from here. I hope you will not fall for their BS.
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Originally posted by Phoenix Rising:
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Originally posted by interventor:
Well, he's Melissa now. Is he trying to tell us something?


14 posts in one day (all cheer-leading PBA). Before today "Melissa" hasn't posted since mid September which leads one to believe PBGay just found his password for that account or his favorite pair of pantyhose - possibly both.



Nash, You know we have caught on to you using two names. Just Because you do it, does not mean everyone does it. Anyway, you are not upsetting me at all. Attack me all you want, it shows who the real idiots are. How many alias do you right wingers have Nash, I mean Phoenix Rising.
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Well, whenever you wingers get done with your name calling... heh

Anyway...All I know is that outside of Paul, you publicans ain't got nobody! Zilch! Nada!

Rudy's a thug 911 poser. McCain would've been your best bet but he's too old and senile now. Thompson's dumber than bag of hammers. And who the hell even knows any about the rest of the fear mongers?

With the exception of Paul, the rest of the (R) candidates just want to pick up where Bush left off. And we all know that an overwhelming majority of Americans ain't going for that nonsense! There can only be two ways a Republican can take the next election. One would be Paul. The other would be Diebold!
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Originally posted by interventor:
Naming two losers that won't make it past the starting gate and one an admitted rascist as the best republican hopes.

See what happens when you have those three and four way conversations with your selves. It just re-inforces the delusions.


I love a lecture on candidate selection from the people that brought you Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukasis, Al Gore, and Howard Dean.
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Originally posted by Phoenix Rising:
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Originally posted by interventor:
Naming two losers that won't make it past the starting gate and one an admitted rascist as the best republican hopes.

See what happens when you have those three and four way conversations with your selves. It just re-inforces the delusions.


I love a lecture on candidate selection from the people that brought you Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukasis, Al Gore, and Howard Dean.



The candidates you speak about above are hell of alot better than the crowd you put in office like your closet gay republicans Bush the monkey,the crook Tom Delay.
"The candidates you speak about above are hell of alot better than the crowd you put in office like your closet gay republicans Bush the monkey,the crook Tom Delay."
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Now, you're claiming Bush and DeLay are gays! PBA, seriously, you might want to seek help. And, I don't meam staring at three mirror setup like Sybil.
Interventor is spanish for auditor. In ancient times, the interventor was a combination inspector general - appeal of last resort or the king's honest man. Spent a lot of time in Spain, years ago.

I'm still working. Used to be civil service. Still work as special program employee on occasion. That just means I can be hired and fired at will with no protection. Last year, I was in Iraq working with their Ministry of Defense.

At present, I'm privately employed. Salary runs to high 5 figures now, but was much lower for years. Have the same politics then, as now.
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Originally posted by PBA:
Why Are They So
Afraid of Ron Paul?
Neocons and sectarian leftists unite to smear the antiwar Republican
by Justin Raimondo
As I predicted last month, the only consistently antiwar candidate on the Republican side of the aisle is breaking through – but in a spectacular manner that I certainly did not foresee. Suddenly, Paul is everywhere, from the Sunday morning talk shows to the length and breadth of the blogosphere. His amazing $4.2 million-in-one-day fundraising feat has entered the annals of presidential politics as the long-promised fulfillment of Internet-based political fundraising. And the myth that it's all online and not translatable into real people is belied by his recent 5,000-strong Philadelphia rally and similar events in Iowa and elsewhere. Paul has become the equivalent of a rock star among the young, and his appeal goes way beyond the usual libertarian crowd: liberals and conservatives, all races and cultural types, from home-schooling Christians to San Francisco pagans and everything in between. On the Internet, and in the streets, the Ron Paul Revolution, as his followers have dubbed their movement, is taking off.


http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11905


"They" (the powers that be) are afraid of Ron Paul for the same reason they are afraid of Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich. Any politician who does not speak out of both sides of his or her mouth these days is quickly portrayed by "them" as the lunatic fringe.

Look at the question they threw at Kucinich during a debate asking him about UFO's. Same thing with Mike Gravel - they try to portray him as some sort of clown for daring to speak out about all of the REAL problems facing us.

Mark my words, Ron Paul will quickly be excluded from the stage and silenced. Anyone who dares to speak the truth and confront corporate and military/industrial America with any ideas other than continuing the cozy status quo must be ruthlessly dealt with. Wait and see!
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Originally posted by interventor:
Interventor is spanish for auditor. In ancient times, the interventor was a combination inspector general - appeal of last resort or the king's honest man. Spent a lot of time in Spain, years ago.

I'm still working. Used to be civil service. Still work as special program employee on occasion. That just means I can be hired and fired at will with no protection. Last year, I was in Iraq working with their Ministry of Defense.

At present, I'm privately employed. Salary runs to high 5 figures now, but was much lower for years. Have the same politics then, as now.


You certainly have an interesting background Interventor. You're probably not at liberty to talk about a lot of things, but I'll bet you could tell some stories.... You seem to know a lot about "black ops". Were you at the Bay of Pigs?

Are you really as proud of everything our government does as your online personna? Do you think there is ultimate justification for all the dirty tricks we use to impose our hegemony on others?

Just curious....
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Originally posted by MelissaRN48:
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Originally posted by bluesman*:
They are all in it together, volume up, wait until it loads, there will be a pause in it, but it will keep on going http://www.flowgo.com/funny/13419_hillary-george-obama-musical.html




Look at it this way, if you gonna vote for a crook vote for one that will represent you. By judging things for the past 7 years I can't see democrats doing any worse than the republicans. The rich got the tax breaks, big oil got rich off of us by high gas prices. Any fool to vote republican this time around after what Bush and the republicans have done to this country would be a bigger fool.


PLEASE PEOPLE!!!! Drop this "the rich go the tax breaks" horsecrap! The rich pay dam near all the income tax this country takes in. The rich pay anywhere from 35 to 45% income tax... what's your percentage??? exactly, probably about half that. it's ridiculous that you folks fall for this form of socialism.
Also, what do you consider rich??? I bet the democrats don't agree with you...they'll drop that number on you in a hearbeat.

You're right, big oil got rich.....so stop using their products. Either stop buying their product or buy stock in it, either way stop crying foul on the part of republicans, it wouldn't change a bit is lil miss socialism got prez..... It's called the free market system/capitalism....Makes this country great.
What is this trash...."Republicans don't look out for the working class but the Democrats do".... WTF!?!?!?
The democrats want to raise income tax on the working class, the republicans want to cut them. The republicans want us working class to get more of our money so we can invest how WE chose, the democrats think we are too stupid to figure it our and want to control our money. The democrats want to take our money and give it to lazy a$s fools to sit at the house on welfare, republicans want to drastically reduce welfare and tell those folks to get a job. Democrats want amnesty for illegal aliens which takes jobs that these lazy a$ses on welfare should be working so that one day they may get to become part of the working class.
Wise up folks, like I've said many time before the Dems ain't the workin mans party anymore. Please name me one democratic prez. nominee that isn't either a career politician or filthy rich or both!!!! You can't...they're all rich and crave the presidency more than anything in their lives...to believe they are looking out for you is foolishness.
PB,

I'm 60 years old, not old enough for the Bay of Pigs, although I have a few Cuban relatives that might know something about it. At that time I was in high school and perfecting my marksmanship on the side.

Not really into black ops, know a few who participated in the past. As I've said before, I specialize in logistics.

Again, I do defend this country's actions but not always their methods that sometimes are bone headed or bureaucractic to the max. The early war in Iraq or nam are both good examples.

I don't support an American hegemony (a code word used first by the KGB and now China) and now picked up by the leftists around the world.

I support ending the second and third most murderous regimes in the history of the world. The management of the first most murderous into a more civilized society, if possible, and ensuring that another such bloody regime does not emerge in the form of an islamofascist caliphate.
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Originally posted by interventor:
PB,

I'm 60 years old, not old enough for the Bay of Pigs, although I have a few Cuban relatives that might know something about it. At that time I was in high school and perfecting my marksmanship on the side.

Not really into black ops, know a few who participated in the past. As I've said before, I specialize in logistics.

Again, I do defend this country's actions but not always their methods that sometimes are bone headed or bureaucractic to the max. The early war in Iraq or nam are both good examples.

I don't support an American hegemony (a code word used first by the KGB and now China) and now picked up by the leftists around the world.

I support ending the second and third most murderous regimes in the history of the world. The management of the first most murderous into a more civilized society, if possible, and ensuring that another such bloody regime does not emerge in the form of an islamofascist caliphate.


So you support the war to the end? You think it is justified?
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Originally posted by traderconnections:
No! mystery there!
He is a blooming idiot...




OH, MR. Right Winger Conservative, Calling people names are we? Take along look in the mirror and you will see a real blooming idiot. If you don't mind let us get back to the topic. Conservative right wingers know when they are beat, when they can't debate. So they hi-jack the post to name calling.

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