Why do liberals hate minorities?

Oh please, get a life. Democrates are the represenation (the only political representation) of minorities. Stop trying to deflect your own sick beliefs on to someone else. Its not gonna work. America is smarter than jerks like you.

It’s all about power and control. The libs want the minorities dependent on them so they will keep voting them in. The old story about teaching someone to fish instead of giving them the fish applies to the libs. They don’t want anybody, especially minorities, to learn how to fish.

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It’s all about power and control. The libs want the minorities dependent on them so they will keep voting them in. The old story about teaching someone to fish instead of giving them the fish applies to the libs. They don’t want anybody, especially minorities, to learn how to fish.

You are SUCH AN IDIOT. The Democratic Party actually takes on and tackles the things that minorities care about. IE: Civil Rights, Equal Pay, Equal Opportunity, etc...

They are not like the Republicans who pander to the Christian Right yet don't really give a crap about them.

School vouchers are for the purpose of subsidizing some rich brat's private school tuition while pulling money out of the already strapped public school system. Low income folks (not the same as minorities by the way in spite of your racist assumption) would not benefit from a voucher since they still could not afford the rest of the tuition.

I am not a Nazi, just intelligent. Now go back to your little warcraft games. You have no power here.

The public school system is not strapped for money. In 2004 the U.S. spent 454 billion on the military but spent 536 billion on public education. That’s hardly strapped for money

The city of Milwaukee did create a voucher program. Harvard economist Caroline Hexby researched to see what the voucher program had done to nearby public schools. Hexby found that kids who used vouchers to attend private schools raised their scores and the kids in the nearby schools did also. The private school voucher cause the public school system to improve. The public school system put in new back to basic curriculum that resulted in the public school systems improved scores. Competition works folks. We need vouchers so people can decide where to send their children to school instead of some government bureaucrat. It only makes sense that people who pay the property taxes should decide where their kids attend school.

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Originally posted by MOBY:
School vouchers are for the purpose of subsidizing some rich brat's private school tuition while pulling money out of the already strapped public school system. Low income folks (not the same as minorities by the way in spite of your racist assumption) would not benefit from a voucher since they still could not afford the rest of the tuition.


OMG someone on the TD forum with a high IQ who sees REALITY instead of perceiving things as they wish....you are exactly right,hopefully you can educate these others
I am not a Nazi, just intelligent. Now go back to your little warcraft games. You have no power here.

The public school system is not strapped for money. In 2004 the U.S. spent 454 billion on the military but spent 536 billion on public education. That’s hardly strapped for money

The city of Milwaukee did create a voucher program. Harvard economist Caroline Hexby researched to see what the voucher program had done to nearby public schools. Hexby found that kids who used vouchers to attend private schools raised their scores and the kids in the nearby schools did also. The private school voucher cause the public school system to improve. The public school system put in new back to basic curriculum that resulted in the public school systems improved scores. Competition works folks. We need vouchers so people can decide where to send their children to school instead of some government bureaucrat. It only makes sense that people who pay the property taxes should decide where their kids attend school.

Sorry to disappoint you Mungo but ignorance is a CHOICE. Only those who wish to be educated will be. The others will simply cry Elitist as if that somehow validates their choice to take the easy way out.

Education is not something you GET, it is something you TAKE.

There are poorer countries than the U.S. doing a much better job educating their students. If we would spend time on mathematics and grammar and English and reading and a little less time on polar bears, bullies, conflict resolution, environmentalism and showing Algore's movie, we would all be better off. The schools could even let students go out on the playground and play tag or dodge ball and let somebody learn what it's like to lose. No doubt, they'd be better prepared for life after graduation.

“School vouchers are for the purpose of subsidizing some rich brat's private school tuition while pulling money out of the already strapped public school system. Low income folks (not the same as minorities by the way in spite of your racist assumption) would not benefit from a voucher since they still could not afford the rest of the tuition.”
Congress started a test voucher program for DC for 2,000 students. Parents, lower income parents, competed vigorously for the vouchers. Now, the Democrats are phasing the program out, despite protests from the parents. It’s all about the teachers associations, not the kids."
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While some toney, upper crust schools do cost more, many of the private schools cost significantly less per student and do a better job of educating their charges.

One Michigan study, found public school costs averaged about $5,445 with about a 6 percent variance, state wide. Private school tuition averaged $2,500 per student. Admittedly, fees for children’s participation in extra-curricular activities such as sports, music, and various student clubs were not included.

In summary, the study found, “while private school tuition is often half or less than the commonly discussed per-pupil expenditure figure for public schools, actual costs are a larger share. Once all private and taxpayer-funded costs are included for both systems, the ratio of total public school costs to total private school costs is less clear, but is probably about 2:1.”

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Why should I play warcraft, when the real world is so interesting and challenging.

Again my question has not been answered.Why do libs hate minorities?

As I cannot speak very slowly so you can understand, so p-l-e-a-s-e r-e-a-d t-h-i-s s-l-o-w-l-y.

It has been answered more than once. We don't hate anyone(we do, however make an exception for morons).

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Again my question has not been answered.Why do libs hate minorities?

There is nothing to answer. Your an idiot, a bigot and a self serving moron. Why don't you just let minorities and lower income people decide which party is better for them and stop showing you true colors.

Still no answer.Just a lot of name calling from the left.I must have hit a nerve with you guys.The truth always does that.

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Originally posted by geddon97:
I just thought I would ask this question since libs seem to hate minorities.They say no to school vouchers.They promote abortion in inner city neighborhoods.They incourage drug use among minorities.They want minority families destroyed.What else can I say but that libs are the new nazis.

Geddon97- Perhaps you wouldn't mind EXPLAINING JUST WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HERE.

Please do explain how the Liberals are
PROMOTING ABORTION in inner city neighborhoods?
INCOURAGING DRUG USE among minorities?
Destroying MINORITY FAMILIES?
And how EXACTLY is it that SAYING NO to school vouchers is showing HATE for (MINORITIES?)? Please explain, how school voucher whould be showing LOVE for them or low income families.

How exactly would it benefit (Minorities?) or lower income families if we were to taking money out of the PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM by providing vouchers so that many middle class kids could have the opportunity to a PRIVATE SCHOOL.

Lower Income families (Minorities?) cannot afford the difference between what the vouchers will pay for and the actual cost of going to a private school.

So exactly how would it help them to take funding out of the public school system and give it to someone else so that they can go to a private school and have an advantage?

There is no explaining.From the name calling and the rending of garments I can tell my comments were spot on.The ones who are the guiltiest are always the ones who protest the loudest.So how does it feel to be a bigot?

My dear friend Blue, don't let my friend geddon and others bait you into these silly arguments.

They like to keep us arguing about guns and abortion and whatnot while the government continues to rob us blind!

As to the question of "why do liberals hate minorities?", it's a bit like asking "why does the devil hate sinners?"

In other words, this is just a silly thread that only takes our eyes of the ball. Same with that "Obama and our guns" thread or whenever somebody starts one of those "When does life begin?" threads.

Ridiculous arguments are all they've got left. The right have been hung out to dry. And they know it. Along with the rest of us!

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Originally posted by w_z:
My dear friend Blue, don't let my friend geddon and others bait you into these silly arguments.

They like to keep us arguing about guns and abortion and whatnot while the government continues to rob us blind!

As to the question of "why do liberals hate minorities?", it's a bit like asking "why does the devil hate sinners?"

In other words, this is just a silly thread that only takes our eyes of the ball. Same with that "Obama and our guns" thread or whenever somebody starts one of those "When does life begin?" threads.

Ridiculous arguments are all they've got left. The right have been hung out to dry. And they know it. Along with the rest of us!

Thank you w_z. Your right. You cannot argue stupid with stupider. Your a good friend.

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Originally posted by TRUE BLUE:

Thank you w_z. Your right. You cannot argue stupid with stupider. Your a good friend.

geddon,

Obviously, the dems keep minorities dependent upon the government so as to keep their votes -- a varient of the old plantation method.

True,

In an earlier post, I showed a Michigan study that contradicted your statement on vouchers.

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Originally posted by Howard Roark:
geddon,

Obviously, the dems keep minorities dependent upon the government so as to keep their votes -- a varient of the old plantation method.

True,

In an earlier post, I showed a Michigan study that contradicted your statement on vouchers.

You see what I mean? lol

w-z You got it.Thats why I started this thread to show how easy anyone can put out a blanket statement if it`s true or not.As we all know JJ,Biggles,and Mungo are the very ones who do this continually on this forum.True I`m sorry I got you riled up but I wanted to prove a point.So please whenever the 3 above spews out their bile please take it with a grain of salt.

"Can't we all just get along?"

Rodney King... 199something

I wish we could all agree that we're all on the same side when it comes to getting killed and royally screwed out of our money.

Liberals and Conservatives both need to get rid of the cancer that breeds in our government.

Then we can argue reasonably about things that do matter!

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Originally posted by w_z:

Liberals and Conservatives both need to get rid of the cancer that breeds in our government.

Then we can argue reasonably about things that do matter!

I must be in the twilight zone. I agree with something w_z said.

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Originally posted by w_z:

Liberals and Conservatives both need to get rid of the cancer that breeds in our government.

Then we can argue reasonably about things that do matter!

I must be in the twilight zone. I agree with something w_z said.

LOL

My friend, we are all in the Twilight Zone!

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I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE W_Z

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I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE W_Z

I must admit that when I first came onto this forum I was throwing nothing but hard "lefts". Slowly, I'm learning to use my "right".

It’s all about power and control. The republicans want the minorities to join up and fight their wars while their brats go to college. If you support the war, get your brat to join up today.

W-Z JJ just validated my post with his insane babble.

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It’s all about power and control. The republicans want the minorities to join up and fight their wars while their brats go to college. If you support the war, get your brat to join up today.

JJ, what percentage of our troops consist of minorities? How many scholarships, grants, programs, etc. are offered to minorities only?

From this link, you will see the minorities by percentage of population and within DoD. For example, minorities make up 30.9 percent of the population and 38.7 percent of the military, not too out of line. I read an army study showing whites composed much of the combat arms -- infantry, artillery, armor and aviation, while minorities held positions in combat support and service support. The minorities entered as a career and the majority as a service before going on to career or job.
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I believe JJ may have went overboard there. No one on this site should be questioning anyones motives for enlisting. Service men and woman enlist for a variety of reasons from education opportunities to patriotism. We should respect all of them despite their reason or whether or not they are a minority. They are Americans or hope to become Americans and that is the bottom line.

Apparently, this post was made by Mr.Geddon to make a point about sweeping generalities (which I believe come from both sides). I don't think he was serious. Minorities have always the constituents of the Democratic Party because they feel they address their needs more.

I think it is very dangerous territory for any of us to get in where we are flinging mud at each other and accusing each party of being a racist. That is one thing I can say for John McCain - I don't believe he is a racist. Nor do I beleive Obama is.

I'm sure racists exist in both parties, all income levels, all educational levels and both sexes. But ultimatly it is an ugly issue and it shouldn't be part of either campaign.

I, like JJ, do pray that it will not be consequential on election day. I also beleive that electing an african-american would be a very good thing for America, in that it may help us get past some of the racist views in this country and give minority children the confidence to beleive they can reach their dreams. That being said, this is NOT the reason I am voting for Obama, nor should it be anyones elses reason to vote (or not vote) for him.

True it`s not the color of a candidate`s skin but what he believes in.Thats what we should vote for .His ideas.I for one do not believe in what Obama is selling.I believe he is a socialist.I have had my problems with McCain but I believe his ideas are more inline with mine.

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True it`s not the color of a candidate`s skin but what he believes in.Thats what we should vote for .His ideas.I for one do not believe in what Obama is selling.I believe he is a socialist.I have had my problems with McCain but I believe his ideas are more inline with mine.

I like McCain too. But I'm sure he's sleeping through most of this!

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Originally posted by geddon97:
True it`s not the color of a candidate`s skin but what he believes in.Thats what we should vote for .His ideas.I for one do not believe in what Obama is selling.I believe he is a socialist.I have had my problems with McCain but I believe his ideas are more inline with mine.

I like McCain too. But I'm sure he's sleeping through most of this!

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I don't think liberals or conservatives hate minorities. I still can't figure out how an African American can vote for a Democrat. Let me just grab this history book... It says here that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. It also says this new party freed the slaves. Hmmm, well that was a long time ago let us find something more current... What's this? Most of the opposition to the civil rights act was from Democrats in the South? Say it ain't so. Wait a minute, wasn't Strom Thurmond a Democrat in the 1960's? Yes it says here. And that nice Governor Wallace from Alabama, he was a Republican right, no, the book says Democrat.

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I don't think liberals or conservatives hate minorities. I still can't figure out how an African American can vote for a Democrat. Let me just grab this history book... It says here that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. It also says this new party freed the slaves. Hmmm, well that was a long time ago let us find something more current... What's this? Most of the opposition to the civil rights act was from Democrats in the South? Say it ain't so. Wait a minute, wasn't Strom Thurmond a Democrat in the 1960's? Yes it says here. And that nice Governor Wallace from Alabama, he was a Republican right, no, the book says Democrat.

I'll tell you why.

It's because Dems and the Pubs switched sides.

What's in a name?