Why Do Many Evangelicals Get Science From a Creationist?

It's a shame those poor never see that good praying money, because mrs. reverend feel good needs her hair done and a new car and mink.

you don't think the preachers wife deserves mink best?

There are lots of things taught in universities that aren't true. Like Ernst haenkel.

http://yecheadquarters.org/shame.html

http://yecheadquarters.org/shame.24.html

This one is from the University of Arkansas, oddly enough, they refute you.

http://www.uark.edu/~cdm/creation/shame.htm

I love this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/scie.../science.sciencenews

 Deep, don't believe everything you heard in college.

Oh my god.  You're referring to Ernst Haeckel?  Really?

Re****ble scientists have corrected and critiqued Haeckel's work for decades.  The legitimate science of embryology continues in earnest despite Haeckel's imaginative, indemonstrable, and discredited faux magnum opus.  This is to the credit of science.

Extra, you really need to come into the 21st Century.  A casual review of the state of the art of biology could not hurt you at all.  I dare you.  Ask me for help if you need it, I'll be happy to oblige.

DF

One scholar's hypothesis has been found faulty. 
My dear X, don't you see that this is the strength of science?  Science examined this man's claim, found it wanting, and declared it so.

Science is interested in the truth.  Religion must abuse truth to buttress its preconceived inaccuracies.

Thanks for submitting this issue.  This is how science works.  BS will be called out, whether by scientists regarding science, or normal jamokes like me who see the vicious and degrading lies of Creationism.  We of the honest all have our place.  Join us.

DF

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Honestly, the vulgarity filter here is somewhere between ridiculous and embarrassing.

DF

Science is interested in the truth. 

 And by your admission, "science" has not reached this truth and still teaches lies and falsehoods.

 So what are the lies and falsehoods you think are truths now?

X

I don't know.

No one does.

Happy?

However, scientific experiments, such as the Miller-Urey experiments of 60 years ago demonstrate how life could emerge from the chemicals present in ancient Earth.  The findings of this experiment are not conclusive, but they are suggestive.  In any event, they are more compelling than the magic suggested by Genesis.

It all happened billions of years ago.  Forgive science if it is not 100% confident.  This is the strength of science.  Only an imbecile would suggest that he knows 100% how life emerged on Earth.  This includes, specifically, Creationists, who make precisely this claim.  Imbeciles, the lot of them.

And you know it.

DF

And with your circular reasoning, what are you going to do if science ever proves God created the world?

Science teaches the best knowledge available.  It does not teach it's conclusions as facts, simply the best knowledge to date.  Sometimes, that knowledge is so compelling (such as Evolution) that it can be taught as the state of the human knowledge of the issue. 
However, if a better idea comes across, and is demonstrable, the state of human knowledge changes.

Here's what is demonstrably wrong:  The Genesis account of creation and the Great Flood.  Wrong.

Lies.

And all the evidence that makes those superstitions demonstrably wrong is discounted by your kind because you are invested in those particular lies.  You lie for money and influence.

Shame.

Shame on you.

You know, I have the Southern accent, the big white hair, the rap,  l look good in a suit.  I could absorb the scarce money from credulous innocents in a religious fashion.  I could pitch a tent and engage in faith healing and revivalist preaching with much apparent conviction  .

I would be as callous and hypocritical and cruel as the rest of them.  But I'm better than that.  I would not do so.  I love mankind too much to abuse it so.  I cannot depend upon and abuse the fears of the ignorant in that fashion.  It would hurt my soul.

But Creationists do this every day.  How can you live with yourself?

DF

Look, y'all, I have to admit something.  Kent Hovind is a favorite of mine.

When it comes to dishonesty, poltroonism, grifting, psych-ops, and a callous, yet profitable, knowledge of how to take advantage of the ignorant with an Unemployment or Social Security check, this guy rocks.  He is most entertaining.

His brassy rejection of any sort of morality impresses me.  I could not do what he does, I'm not nearly that immoral.  I like to think that I'm at least on the 51% moral side, but Hovind is up against the 99% of people who would not stomp kittens.

Yes, he's a Young Earth Creationist.  Of course.  He's that dishonest.

Google him.  For laughs.  If that's too much, click here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQIF7Yh3hI

Kent is a   favorite of mine.  I wish I had his courage.  I wish I could take money from those less intelligent than I.  I wish I could use my meager powers of creativity to hoodwink the stupid, of whom theer are millions.  Of course, I would have paid my taxes and spared myself a 10 year prison sentence, but still.

I wish I was that callous.  That cold.  That Clint Eastwood in "High Plains Drifter".

I'm not.  I love y'all.  All y'all.  I do.  I cannot lie to you, therefor I cannot preach to you about Jesus, God, and ultimate morality.  Work it out and let me know, OK?  Jesus and Yahweh are just the more recent Thor and Zeus.  That's all.

Be well.

DF

One thing they can't get through their head is that scientists are not trying to prove or disprove a god.

Best, there are many things they cannot process.  Their minds are often warped by superstitous memes.

It is up to us to liberate the religiously poisoned from their captivity.  2000 years is enough.  We do it out of love.

DF

But you and Deep and Dark angel are. You are trying to take science, which you have admitted is often wrong and always incomplete, and is always changing, and stating positively that this erroneous, everchanging, and incomplete evidence PROVES THAT THERE IS NO GOD.

 Do you guys realize how stupid that makes you look.

No, you love youself. And you loveyourself so much you come up with a warped philosophy that lets you do whatever you please without both conscience and accountability. It is you who are the liar, because you know deep down, it's not true.

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I'm listening with an open mind & willing to learn whatever I can.

 "Why Do Many Evangelicals Get Science From a Creationist?"

Why do many atheists get science from Al Gore?

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What?
Really guys, know your limits. Don't try to be witty if you're not clever. It just comes out wrong.

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Al Gore? LOL!!!

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So DF you are hanging your hat on mere suggestions these days. How telling.

          Dawkins tried this and got fired from his job.

Now he is the poster boy for aneurisms.

          You know good and well creationists are right.

You know the earth is 6k yrs. Old. There is a written account of the caper from the beginning.

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Lol best it’s not Christians that can’t get it through their heads. It’s the angry atheist that thinks science is out to disprove God. The Christians know it’s impossible for anyone to disprove God.

I'm not an angry atheist nor do I know one, and I know scientists aren't out to prove or disprove a god. That's not the "business they're in". Seems like it's the angry christians trying to sell the 6 thousand year old earth BS that are angry at the scientists.

Because he is right.

Bestworking? LOL!!!!!

You know that Gore is right. You also know that he was elected President and that Bush wasn't, either time!!! LOL!!!

And scientists, and others with rational brains, know that it is impossible to prove God. No need to disprove that which has not been proven. To say that atheists, angry or otherwise, think that science is out to disprove God is patently ridiculous and could only be said by an ignorant person. Someone like lexum, for example.

lexum's ignorance of the Bible is equal to his/hers/its ignorance of Dawkins and science.

I do love myself.  I love myself too much to lie to myself.  I love you, too, and I think too highly of you to tolerate your lying to yourself and others.  You can do better.  I'm here to suggest that you do.

X, the six-day Creation story is demonstrably wrong.  The Flood myth is demonstrably wrong.  Young Earth Creationism is demonstrably wrong.  If you could be honest with yourself and explore the real knowledge, you could see this.  Why don't you?

In your heart of hearts, in the mind of your mind, you know I'm right.  Human knowledge has simply progressed too much and is too ubiquitous to maintain Bronze Age myths about Nature.

Have you ever read the Bible critically?  From a point of view other than preconception that it is correct in whatever it says?  From time to time, more intelligent Fundamentalists do so and find themselves unable to accept it.  You could be one of those people whose intellect and courage makes a real difference.

DF

Semi, the religious think that I dislike them.  Nothing could be farther from the truth.  I love them.  I want them to wake up and open their eyes.  Many have, and they deserve appreciation and support.

Have you ever considered the lingering reverberations of the Roman Empire we endure?  Architecture, language, religion, politics, philosophy?  Forty years after we walked on the Moon we can imagine our own culture, our own minds now.  Those who would drag us back 2000 years are in the decline, and it's two millenia overdue.

DF

DF, I was gonna weigh in here but it just seems to go round and round with the theists making the same argument and none making the first bit of sense.

If God exists, why are there not prophets today? Mike Murdock? He 'guaranteed' that within 8 days not one but three miracles would come to you if you sent your $1,000 in now.

One of the 'believers' on another forum stated in regard to the PSU goings on: "You will be amazed at what prayer can do for the victims." Well, where was your god when those innocent little boys were being sodomized and praying for it to stop? If that is p/o god's will, I'm glad I'm an atheist.

So you would condemn God for putting bad people in Hell, and then turn around and condemn God for not intervening.  Seems he can't do anything to suit you.

Makes one wonder about the prophets of old, does it not?  Were they frauds, too?  We are rightly suspicious of people, ancient and contemporary, who speak for God.  What is more likely is that they speak what will keep them in concubines.

When the boys at PSU were being raped cried out to god, and when the next child who will be raped are crying out to god for help, he will be as callous and unresponsive as he's always been.  And no threat of Hell will save them from their tormentors.

I am not amazed at the power of prayer.  I am amazed that in this day of knowledge and reason, so many people cling to a vile superstition instead of actually doing something.

DF

df, where were you and dawkins?

We weren't raping children.  What do you want to bet that Sandusky is a Christian?

DF

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 And what was Jeffry Dahmer?

Dahmer was coc.

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 Dahmer became a killer after he became an atheist.

Dahmer never became an atheist. He was coc and stop going to church but not because he became an atheist. He was a coc back slider.