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Why do NASCAR Fans Vote Republican?

J Jan55Old Faithful
Why do NASCAR Fans Vote Republican?
by kaineforgovernor
Sun Apr 24, 2005 at 07:04:42 PM PDT
From the RaisingKaine blog, by NASCAR fan Brian Patton...
That is the question I have been asking myself a lot lately. Why do the thousands of NASCAR fans continue to support Republican candidates? The kneejerk, stereotypical answer is that "they are good `ole boys just like the Republicans" (I wouldn't be surprised if we get a comment or two like that here). However, with NASCAR's growth and expansion across the nation, it's hard to imagine this answer still being correct, certainly not the whole story.

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It is understandable, perhaps, that the NASCAR owners, drivers, and teams who make millions of dollars would be supportive of Republicans who promise to lower their taxes. However, the average NASCAR fan who makes considerably less than that is probably not interested primarily in a capital gains tax cut or the estate tax. Rather, it appears that the average NASCAR fan votes Republican based on just a few, non-economic issues.
From speaking with my NASCAR friends, it seems to me that most of them who support Republican candidates do so based on two main issues: abortion and gay rights. In other words, they are interested in candidates who are generally anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage. Additionally, a couple of those people also care a great deal about gun rights, the death penalty, and affirmative action, and would consider voting Republican on these issues.

During these discussions one of my friends brought up a good point, that most people who follow NASCAR have heard of the "fan loyalty" concept. This is the reason hundreds of sponsors are happy to pour millions of dollars into NASCAR: fans are phenomenally loyal to their favorite driver's sponsor.

For example, even though I have disliked the taste of Coke for years and have preferred to drink Pepsi's Mountain Dew or Sierra Mist, I buy Coke. Why? Because Coke is a huge supporter of Kevin Harvick and Pepsi supports Jeff Gordon - everyone's favorite driver to dislike. Could it be that fans are just supporting Republicans because their favorite drivers are? If so, then a simple remedy is for the candidate to buy sponsorship on the race cars (or get it gave to them for free).

The "fan loyalty" theory is an interesting one and possibly part of the answer to why NASCAR fans tend to vote Republican. Another part of the answer could be that NASCAR fans equate Democratic candidates with the Hollywood type and do not want to be associated with those perceived ideals. NASCAR fans believe in hard work and feel that Hollywood folks are cashing in for doing very little work.

NASCAR fans believe that they can dig all the ditches, sweep all the streets, and pick up all the trash possible, but that they will still never make as much money as Ben Affleck does for one crappy movie. This is true, no question about it, but isn't it a strong economic argument for NASCAR fans to be supporting Democratic candidates?

The thing is, Republicans can talk about how they are good for the economy until they are blue in the face, but that is not going to change the facts. And the numbers don't lie: Democrats have proven that they are better for the economy, especially for the lower and middle classes that most NASCAR fans are members of. Given this strong economic reason to vote Democratic, why do so many blue-collar NASCAR fans continue to support Republicans who cater to rich folks and big corporations? Especially when these same big corporations are the ones that are putting the squeeze on the working class in this country?

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TeggereTeggereHall of Famer
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PBA:
Why do NASCAR Fans Vote Republican?
by kaineforgovernor
Sun Apr 24, 2005 at 07:04:42 PM PDT
From the RaisingKaine blog, by NASCAR fan Brian Patton...
That is the question I have been asking myself a lot lately. Why do the thousands of NASCAR fans continue to support Republican candidates? The kneejerk, stereotypical answer is that "they are good `ole boys just like the Republicans" (I wouldn't be surprised if we get a comment or two like that here). However, with NASCAR's growth and expansion across the nation, it's hard to imagine this answer still being correct, certainly not the whole story.
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They are stupid?
Southern PatriotSouthern PatriotHall of Famer
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Originally posted by PBA:
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Originally posted by interventor:
And, the democrats will regulate the cars out of existence. All in the name on the environment and the kids, of course.




Republicans have spent most of their efforts spending tax dollars on the war in Iraq and tax cuts for the wealthiest.


Putting aside the argument of whether the war is just or not, the gov't is spending our tax $'s in Iraq doing something that is a constitutional duty (defending the country). I would much rather them spend my money doing constitutionaly mandated things than spend it on cradle to grave entitlements.
J Jan55Old Faithful
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
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Originally posted by PBA:
quote:
Originally posted by interventor:
And, the democrats will regulate the cars out of existence. All in the name on the environment and the kids, of course.




Republicans have spent most of their efforts spending tax dollars on the war in Iraq and tax cuts for the wealthiest.


Putting aside the argument of whether the war is just or not, the gov't is spending our tax $'s in Iraq doing something that is a constitutional duty (defending the country). I would much rather them spend my money doing constitutionaly mandated things than spend it on cradle to grave entitlements.




Constitutional duty? defending the country? This is the biggest B.S. Ever!! Iraq is about oil. We invaded them! Iraq was not a threat!!
Sassy KimsSassy KimsOld Faithful
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
quote:
Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
quote:
Originally posted by interventor:
And, the democrats will regulate the cars out of existence. All in the name on the environment and the kids, of course.




Republicans have spent most of their efforts spending tax dollars on the war in Iraq and tax cuts for the wealthiest.


Putting aside the argument of whether the war is just or not, the gov't is spending our tax $'s in Iraq doing something that is a constitutional duty (defending the country). I would much rather them spend my money doing constitutionaly mandated things than spend it on cradle to grave entitlements.




Constitutional duty? defending the country? This is the biggest B.S. Ever!! Iraq is about oil. We invaded them! Iraq was not a threat!!


You keep believing that. Fairy tales do sometimes come true (but not this one).
J Jan55Old Faithful
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Constitutional duty? defending the country? This is the biggest B.S. Ever!! Iraq is about oil. We invaded them! Iraq was not a threat!![/QUOTE]

You keep believing that. Fairy tales do sometimes come true (but not this one).[/QUOTE]


Rednecks who think they're the real America should read a history book once in a while."
Southern PatriotSouthern PatriotHall of Famer
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Originally posted by PBA:
[


Constitutional duty? defending the country? This is the biggest B.S. Ever!! Iraq is about oil. We invaded them! Iraq was not a threat!!


You keep believing that. Fairy tales do sometimes come true (but not this one).[/QUOTE]


Rednecks who think they're the real America should read a history book once in a while."[/QUOTE]

If you mean the term "redneck" to be offensive you dumb a**, you are going to have to try again. That is a term of endearment where I am from. As far as why we went to war, prove your claim or shut the hell up. I am pretty sure you can't back your crap up so I hope we won't hear from you again about his point for the near future.
TeggereTeggereHall of Famer
quote:
Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
quote:
Originally posted by interventor:
And, the democrats will regulate the cars out of existence. All in the name on the environment and the kids, of course.




Republicans have spent most of their efforts spending tax dollars on the war in Iraq and tax cuts for the wealthiest.


Putting aside the argument of whether the war is just or not, the gov't is spending our tax $'s in Iraq doing something that is a constitutional duty (defending the country). I would much rather them spend my money doing constitutionaly mandated things than spend it on cradle to grave entitlements.



I like the cradle to grave health care much better than I like war. But then I am a tree hugging liberal.
TeggereTeggereHall of Famer
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
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Constitutional duty? defending the country? This is the biggest B.S. Ever!! Iraq is about oil. We invaded them! Iraq was not a threat!!


You keep believing that. Fairy tales do sometimes come true (but not this one).[/QUOTE]


Rednecks who think they're the real America should read a history book once in a while."[/QUOTE]

They don't need to read to watch cars go round and round a big oval. They would like to see more wreaks tho.
Southern PatriotSouthern PatriotHall of Famer
Teggere,
There is actually a side of me that agrees with you on the healthcare thing. However, I start to think about where the money comes from and I realize that it's not my place to have to pay for YOUR healthcare any more than it is your job to pay for mine. Our rights are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness. Insurance may be part of one of those things but not a paticular item in and of itself. The gov't can protect your life and liberty from a foreign invader and it can allow you to purse your own happiness (within the limits of the law), but it has no requirement to capture that happiness and give it to you. You have to do that yourself.
I interventorPost Master
Teg,

Got a minor in history. My library includes the Folio edition of Gibboon's "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire," all volumes read; the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, read; numerous volumes on the lives of Lee, Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton, all read; Livy's History of Rome, read; plus a few I haven't read -- saving for retirement.

Next question!
J Jan55Old Faithful
quote:
Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
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Constitutional duty? defending the country? This is the biggest B.S. Ever!! Iraq is about oil. We invaded them! Iraq was not a threat!!


You keep believing that. Fairy tales do sometimes come true (but not this one).



Rednecks who think they're the real America should read a history book once in a while."[/QUOTE]

If you mean the term "redneck" to be offensive you dumb a**, you are going to have to try again. That is a term of endearment where I am from. As far as why we went to war, prove your claim or shut the hell up. I am pretty sure you can't back your crap up so I hope we won't hear from you again about his point for the near future.[/QUOTE]


Hey You hot head little right wing nut,You know They were no WMD'S! And I am from the south also dude, I just don't think like you. You never back your dam facts. Where are the WMD'S SMARTA.S.S.?
Southern PatriotSouthern PatriotHall of Famer
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
quote:
Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
[


Constitutional duty? defending the country? This is the biggest B.S. Ever!! Iraq is about oil. We invaded them! Iraq was not a threat!!


You keep believing that. Fairy tales do sometimes come true (but not this one).



Rednecks who think they're the real America should read a history book once in a while."


If you mean the term "redneck" to be offensive you dumb a**, you are going to have to try again. That is a term of endearment where I am from. As far as why we went to war, prove your claim or shut the hell up. I am pretty sure you can't back your crap up so I hope we won't hear from you again about his point for the near future.[/QUOTE]


Hey You hot head little right wing nut,You know They were no WMD'S! And I am from the south also dude, I just don't think like you. You never back your dam facts. Where are the WMD'S SMARTA.S.S.?[/QUOTE]

They call that the pot calling the kettle black on your little "fact" statement. You NEVER accept facts when they are put to you. Your questionable facts from questionable sources are fine though. If we hadn't waited around for MONTHS waiting on the UN to get their heads out of their 4th point of contact, we could have caught up with them before they were sent out to Syria.
J Jan55Old Faithful
quote:
Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
quote:
Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
[


Constitutional duty? defending the country? This is the biggest B.S. Ever!! Iraq is about oil. We invaded them! Iraq was not a threat!!


You keep believing that. Fairy tales do sometimes come true (but not this one).



Rednecks who think they're the real America should read a history book once in a while."


If you mean the term "redneck" to be offensive you dumb a**, you are going to have to try again. That is a term of endearment where I am from. As far as why we went to war, prove your claim or shut the hell up. I am pretty sure you can't back your crap up so I hope we won't hear from you again about his point for the near future.



Hey You hot head little right wing nut,You know They were no WMD'S! And I am from the south also dude, I just don't think like you. You never back your dam facts. Where are the WMD'S SMARTA.S.S.?[/QUOTE]

They call that the pot calling the kettle black on your little "fact" statement. You NEVER accept facts when they are put to you. Your questionable facts from questionable sources are fine though. If we hadn't waited around for MONTHS waiting on the UN to get their heads out of their 4th point of contact, we could have caught up with them before they were sent out to Syria.[/QUOTE]


I will accept facts, back yours up.I can say You NEVER accept facts also. I have seen you debate others and You always try to get the last word.Read this from the article,During these discussions one of my friends brought up a good point, that most people who follow NASCAR have heard of the "fan loyalty" concept. This is the reason hundreds of sponsors are happy to pour millions of dollars into NASCAR: fans are phenomenally loyal to their favorite driver's sponsor.

For example, even though I have disliked the taste of Coke for years and have preferred to drink Pepsi's Mountain Dew or Sierra Mist, I buy Coke. Why? Because Coke is a huge supporter of Kevin Harvick and Pepsi supports Jeff Gordon - everyone's favorite driver to dislike. Could it be that fans are just supporting Republicans because their favorite drivers are? If so, then a simple remedy is for the candidate to buy sponsorship on the race cars (or get it gave to them for free).

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