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What about Joel Osteen? He was on TV a few days ago giving an interview. He has a massive TV ministry, a huge church, approx. 50 million a year in tithes, $40 million in donations thru the mail, & 2 books that sold approx. 3 million each.

This man is so boring & bland, I don’t know how anyone can sit thru his messages, much less donate to his ministry.

He doesn’t talk about God in any of his sermons, has never been to Seminary, has no degree of any kind. The reason he doesn't discuss God, Jesus Christ, sin or what you need to do to be saved is because in his words, “That’s not my gift.”

If I had the money he has coming in, I wouldn't want to talk about God either if I thought it might rock the financial boat.

 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

 There are much better ways to explain the way things work using easily visible, verifiable facts and evidence. I have been created by my parents-following a well-documented biological process

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Pup, I would love to hear how you  believe the first 2 humans came to be. (there had to be male/female, for a little human to come to be)

If you don't want to comment on the forum (cause I know how some are to make fun) I wish you would PM me.

 

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Ooh! I know! I know!

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

 There are much better ways to explain the way things work using easily visible, verifiable facts and evidence. I have been created by my parents-following a well-documented biological process

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Pup, I would love to hear how you  believe the first 2 humans came to be. (there had to be male/female, for a little human to come to be)

If you don't want to comment on the forum (cause I know how some are to make fun) I wish you would PM me.

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Originally Posted by A. Robustus:
Ooh! I know! I know!

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I'm willing to hear from you too.

Originally Posted by A. Robustus:
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

 There are much better ways to explain the way things work using easily visible, verifiable facts and evidence. I have been created by my parents-following a well-documented biological process

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Pup, I would love to hear how you  believe the first 2 humans came to be. (there had to be male/female, for a little human to come to be)

If you don't want to comment on the forum (cause I know how some are to make fun) I wish you would PM me.

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Originally Posted by A. Robustus:
Ooh! I know! I know!

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I'm willing to hear from you too.

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Whew!
Well, because of evolution, it'd be almost impossible to accurately point to the very first "humans" during millions of years worth of hominid creatures procreating. Hominid speciation is an astonishingly gradual process. I can maybe explain better later but there's no simple dividing line in which we can point definitively to an offspring and a parent and say, viola! you just gave birth to a different species. Basically, if you were to trace your parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's, on and on, for hundreds of thousands of years (or more) your direct ancestors would eventually not be "human". If you were to follow your direct family line back for millions of years (or more), your ancestors would eventually not even be apes. If you were to keep going further and further and further and further and further back, your direct ancestors would eventually not even be mammals - and so on, allllll the way back to single celled organisms. Defining where the exact species change happens anywhere along the way would be extremely difficult and scientifically contentious.

Originally Posted by A. Robustus:
 

 Basically, if you were to trace your parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's, on and on, for hundreds of thousands of years (or more) your direct ancestors would eventually not be "human".

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You didn't say anything about the garage, the wild thing, dancing the

Mortise and tenon or even the cabbage patch, when did the fun start?

You conveniently forgot to mention that before Revelation 21:4, we must take a look at Revelation 20:11-15:

Revelation 20:11-15, "Then I saw a great white throne (the judgment of non-believers) and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them.  And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.  And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fireThis is the second death, the lake of fireAnd if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."


Thank you Mr. Gray for the reminder. Here a is a great witness to the scripture you quoted, and it perfectly explains what Rev 20:11-15 means. Pay close attention to all the words and see how both passages agree.

 

1Co 3:13  Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14  If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15  If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.


Remember it is the "great WHITE throne" judgement not the great dark judgement. Judgement is a good thing, Christianity has turned it into something very evil. After Judgement everyone who ever lived will learn righteousness. 


Isa 26:9  With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

 

Rev 15:4  Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

 

Peace,

 

gdriggs

 

www.bible-truths.com

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