Why do Republican hate minorites?

I guess this is just undisputed.

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Originally posted by TRUE BLUE:
I just thought I'd ask this question.
Why did Republicans oppose civil rights? 'I don't.'
Why do Republicans oppose equal pay? 'I don't.'
Why do Republicans care nothing for social programs that could help inner cities? 'Most are wasteful and do little.'
Why do Republicans insist that the lower and middle class should pay more in taxes than the wealthy?' They don't, 33% of people pay nothing.'
Why do Republicans care more about oil than our planet? 'You are confusing wanting to get off foreign dependency with hating our planet. Not the same thing. There are a lot more alternatives than oil.'
Why do Republicans insist on inflicting their belives on everone else? 'Same for dems, True.'
Why do Republicans perfer to invest in war rather than education? 'Education is already funded, its wasted and lousy teachers have tenure.'
Why do Republican oppose Immigration Reform? They don't. I oppose sending back hard workers who are here and gladly do the lousy jobs that US people won't do. Give them a SS number, tax their butt, and make them pay for their own insurance, same as me.

I have been busy all day. Car had a breakdown, hubby and I just finished.

LMM- This was in response to the Jerk that posted "Why do liberal hate minorities." I was just making a point that Democratic PARTY has supported minorities. I wasn't accusing republican voters of hating them. I know that they all don't. I guess I should have just responded to the jerks post and left it at that. Sorry, this was a stupid post, I regret it. You can't fight stupid with stupider.

PS: I think your showing you "leaning independent" in some of those answers.

PS - I loved your post on Social Security. I forwarded to my mom and she was flabbergasted. That was truly a big wake up call. You need to post it again.

Why? It's called I stole mine so screw you...aka S-E-L-F-I-S-H

LMM: I am a Democrat and I have really tried to stay out of all of the trash talk on here because I just don't think all of it is necessary but I really took offense to the Education remark. It is NOT fully funded and I am one that does have tenure and am very proud of it and NOT a lousy teacher. Do not lump us all into one big group just like I will not lump all of the republicans into one big group. If you think it is fully funded try visiting my classroom and see the computers that we are using that are hand-me-downs from TVA without soundcards. I am thankful for them-at least for the moment we can do accelerated reader on them until they upgrade the system then we won't be able to anymore. I've been begging for a computer with a soundcard so I can use for a student who really needs it to do a Phonics program on computer but there are none available and no funds available. If the elementary classes get computers they are donated from TVA or hand-me-downs from the high school when they get new ones. So don't tell me that education is fully funded until you've been there.

This I do agree with. Our teachers are underpaid, underappreciated and undersupplied. And as a result our children are falling behind the rest of the world. People need to realize that our children are the hope of the future for this country.

Last November I received a series of letters from the teachers from my sons school. The letters asked the parents (very nicely) to please not invest in items needed for their classrooms (listing particular books, calculators, software and other particular supplies) instead of sending christmas gifts to them. The schools are also always encouraging box tops, receipts from certain stores, they allow themselves to be put in dunking booths, be locked up in a cage at the mall, and all sorts of other types of fundraising activities.

They do all this for the benefit of the children. Perhaps, if the teachers had the proper funding, they could concentrate more on educating our children then on raising money to pay for the things they need to educate them.

b67, No disrespect intended. There is a lot of money in the fed education budget but I know it does not get spent evenly. The state carries the brunt of the load and I cannot find any info on Alabama's budget. I have looked and found nothing.

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ED currently administers a budget of $68.6 billion per year—$59.2 billion in discretionary appropriations and $9.4 billion in mandatory appropriations—and operates programs that touch on every area and level of education. The Department's elementary and secondary programs annually serve more than 14,000 school districts and approximately 56 million students attending some 97,000 public schools and 28,000 private schools. Department programs also provide grant, loan, and work-study assistance to about 11 million postsecondary students.

That said, it is important to point out that education in America is primarily a State and local responsibility, and ED's budget is only a small part of both total national education spending and the overall Federal budget, as we explain in a primer on the Federal role in education. In addition to this historical background, we try to demystify the Federal budget process and show how it is carried out in ED.

The tenure part is due to knowing some really bad teachers that get moved from school to school or are simply ignored in the county system. City schools always get more funding than county and big cities get more than small ones. I used to be PTO president of a small county school and know how bad it can be. You have to fight for it and make a fuss. The PTO would buy stuff for classrooms that we should not have had too. I am sorry I offended you, it was not my intention. The school I was part of was not a good school, I was judging my remarks by that.

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Originally posted by TRUE BLUE:
PS - I loved your post on Social Security. I forwarded to my mom and she was flabbergasted. That was truly a big wake up call. You need to post it again.

True, I can't remember which one it was. Help me out here.

Republican Party passed the Civil Rights bill over the objections of the Democrat Party.

Ummm no, the Johnson Administration signed that bill

Passage in the House of Representatives

The bill was sent to the House of Representatives, and referred to the House Judiciary Committee, chaired by Emmanuel Celler. After a series of hearings on the bill, Celler's committee greatly strengthened the act, adding provisions to ban racial discrimination in employment. The bill was reported out of the Judiciary Committee in November 1963, but was then referred to the Rules Committee, whose chairman, Howard W. Smith, a Democrat from Virginia, indicated his intention to keep the bill bottled up indefinitely.
On the return from the winter recess, however, matters took a significant turn. The President's public advocacy of the Act had made a difference of opinion in congressmen's home districts, and soon it became apparent that the petition would acquire the necessary signatures. To prevent the humiliation of the success of the petition, Chairman Smith allowed the bill to pass through the Rules Committee. The bill was brought to a vote in the House on February 10, 1964, and passed by a vote of 290 to 130, and sent to the Senate.


The bill came before the full Senate for debate on March 30, 1964 and the "Southern Bloc" of southern Senators led by Richard Russell (D-GA) launched a filibuster to prevent its passage. Said Russell "We will resist to the bitter end any measure or any movement which would have a tendency to bring about social equality and intermingling and amalgamation of the races in our (Southern) states."[5]
After 54 days of filibuster, Senators Everett Dirksen (R-IL), Thomas Kuchel (R-CA), Hubert Humphrey (D-MN), and Mike Mansfield (D-MT) introduced a substitute bill that they hoped would attract enough Republican votes to end the filibuster. The compromise bill was weaker than the House version in regards to government power to regulate the conduct of private business, but it was not so weak as to cause the House to reconsider the legislation.[6]

On the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) completed an address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier opposing the legislation. Until then, the measure had occupied the Senate for 57 working days, including six Saturdays. A day earlier, Democratic Whip Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota, the bill's manager, concluded he had the 67 votes required at that time to end the debate and end the filibuster. With six wavering senators providing a four-vote victory margin, the final tally stood at 71 to 29. Never in history had the Senate been able to muster enough votes to cut off a filibuster on a civil rights bill. And only once in the 37 years since 1927 had it agreed to cloture for any measure.[7]

Shortly thereafter, the substitute (compromise) bill passed the Senate by a vote of 73-27, and quickly passed through the House-Senate conference committee, which adopted the Senate version of the bill. The conference bill was passed by both houses of Congress, and was signed into law by President Johnson on July 2, 1964. Legend has it that as he put down his pen Johnson told an aide, "We have lost the South for a generation."[8]

Sorry I jumped but I get overheated when all schools are attacked and judged by the mistakes and problems of a few. I don't judge a classroom of children or a class of people by the mistakes of a few. I wish all of this money everyone keeps talking about that is available for education would "fall on down the tree" to those of actually doing the work. I will say this we were so happy that our Lauderdale County Board and Superintendent voted to supplement the State Supply money that was cut by the State this year. The state cut our Supply money by $125 and our Local board will supplement it back. As far as I know and have heard we are the only county so far that is doing that. If I'm wrong I stand corrected-just haven't heard from all of them.

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Originally posted by The Mungo Jerry:
Ummm no, the Johnson Administration signed that bill

He wouldn`t have had a bill to sign without the republicans.So why do libs hate minorities?

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Originally posted by b67:
Sorry I jumped but I get overheated when all schools are attacked and judged by the mistakes and problems of a few. I don't judge a classroom of children or a class of people by the mistakes of a few. I wish all of this money everyone keeps talking about that is available for education would "fall on down the tree" to those of actually doing the work. I will say this we were so happy that our Lauderdale County Board and Superintendent voted to supplement the State Supply money that was cut by the State this year. The state cut our Supply money by $125 and our Local board will supplement it back. As far as I know and have heard we are the only county so far that is doing that. If I'm wrong I stand corrected-just haven't heard from all of them.

I am glad that you will get the supplement. I am referring to a school in Colbert County. Perhaps some of the teachers there will way in.

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Originally posted by b67:
Sorry I jumped but I get overheated when all schools are attacked and judged by the mistakes and problems of a few. I don't judge a classroom of children or a class of people by the mistakes of a few. I wish all of this money everyone keeps talking about that is available for education would "fall on down the tree" to those of actually doing the work. I will say this we were so happy that our Lauderdale County Board and Superintendent voted to supplement the State Supply money that was cut by the State this year. The state cut our Supply money by $125 and our Local board will supplement it back. As far as I know and have heard we are the only county so far that is doing that. If I'm wrong I stand corrected-just haven't heard from all of them.

Well..at least someone, somewhere is listening.
I know teachers are working against a wall of obsticals and using their own money to get the supplies they need. I'm glad to here that Lauderdale County is trying to come through. My son goes to shool in Lauderdale Co. and (unlike me when I was his age), he LOVES school. Which tells me that ya'll are doing something right. His teachers have his attention, he is involved with his school and surrounding communittee and he's interested in what his teachers are saying. In my opinion, that's the quake proof foundation needed to get a steller education. Kudos to you and your peers.

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Originally posted by b67:
Sorry I jumped but I get overheated when all schools are attacked and judged by the mistakes and problems of a few. I don't judge a classroom of children or a class of people by the mistakes of a few. I wish all of this money everyone keeps talking about that is available for education would "fall on down the tree" to those of actually doing the work. I will say this we were so happy that our Lauderdale County Board and Superintendent voted to supplement the State Supply money that was cut by the State this year. The state cut our Supply money by $125 and our Local board will supplement it back. As far as I know and have heard we are the only county so far that is doing that. If I'm wrong I stand corrected-just haven't heard from all of them.

People cannot just look at the total spent on education without examining what that translates to on a per student basis after overhead, as well as how much of that actually makes it to the schools. My sister and brother in law teach in New York and each spends a minimum of $1,000 per year of their own money on supplies for their students. It is only going to get worse as the cost of lighting, heating, and cooling the buildings continues to increase.


One of the biggest impediments my sister faces in teaching is that fact that she spends at least 1/3 to 1/2 of her classroom time disciplining and teaching high school students basic manners and acceptable behavior. Many do not get it at home and she has even been told by parents that it is HER job.

There is waste in every area of the government but it is not the people in the trenches who are doing the actual work that are benefitting. It is unfair to even make that assumption.

Thank you True Blue. I am so proud that your son likes school. We try so hard to make lessons interesting for our students as well as teaching the concepts they need. In this day and age of "gaming" they need to be entertained 24 hours a day but I don't need to tell you that you are a parent. We do what we do for the children.

Moby: I agree with you wholeheartedly. We have had so many concepts and skills added to our curriculum in my 19 years of teaching that it would boggle your mind. We have those not in education telling us that we need to be teaching sex education, religion, character ed,, manners etc. because they aren't getting it at home. There is going to come a time that we are going to start these babies when they are born and changing their diapers "because they aren't getting it at home". I can IDENTIFY with your sister and brother in-law, if you read my post at the beginning of the school year that was on the school supplies where parents were complaining about how much theirs cost I stated I had already spent between $400-$500 out of my own pocket to start school. I would hate to guess what it is now because our state money doesn't come in until Oct. 1 and school starts Aug. 4. I'll shut up now-we all know the money doesn't fall down to the people who REALLY KNOW HOW TO USE IT.

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Originally posted by b67:
Thank you True Blue. I am so proud that your son likes school. We try so hard to make lessons interesting for our students as well as teaching the concepts they need. In this day and age of "gaming" they need to be entertained 24 hours a day but I don't need to tell you that you are a parent. We do what we do for the children.

Wow...that's nuts. Your paying the County to allow them to let you do your job. People need to understand this and that these children are our future. Their educations will make or break this country at the end of the day. My support is behind you 100%. I have a small business & I am hounded for donations daily from everywhere. However, we have choosen the school system and atheletics programs the sole beneficiary of any donations we make. I may be a little bias because of my son, but I can't think of a better place for my money to go than to invest it in the future of this area.



Moby: I agree with you wholeheartedly. We have had so many concepts and skills added to our curriculum in my 19 years of teaching that it would boggle your mind. We have those not in education telling us that we need to be teaching sex education, religion, character ed,, manners etc. because they aren't getting it at home. There is going to come a time that we are going to start these babies when they are born and changing their diapers "because they aren't getting it at home". I can IDENTIFY with your sister and brother in-law, if you read my post at the beginning of the school year that was on the school supplies where parents were complaining about how much theirs cost I stated I had already spent between $400-$500 out of my own pocket to start school. I would hate to guess what it is now because our state money doesn't come in until Oct. 1 and school starts Aug. 4. I'll shut up now-we all know the money doesn't fall down to the people who REALLY KNOW HOW TO USE IT.

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Why is it that the wealth is always privatized and the debt is always socialized? w-z

Because they can...