Why do so many consider Abortion Murder?

Truly heartbreaking.
Anyone that can think that abortion is "a choice" is numb to humanity, and all that is right in this world. God help them!

Hi GBRK,

About fifteen years ago, my wife and I attended a concert at Calvary Church in Santa Ana, California, which was hosted by Dr. David Hocking and Pat Boone. One of the guest singers was a teenage girl who had survived a Saline Abortion attempt.

Saline Abortions are like dipping the unborn baby in liquid acid; it burns the baby to death. Yet, by the grace of God, this young lady had survived. And, now she is singing praises to God.

Another guest singer was Joni Eareckson Tada who, for many years has praised God for the accident which made her a paraplegic.

Yes, beyond any and all doubt, abortion is Infanticide.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

The same high school guidance counselor who tried to talk my wife into an abortion was also the one who years later ended up giving our daughter her honor roll certificates.

Now she's a professional Christian music artist spreading God's word throughout the world. Just think of the lost opportunities if she had been killed in the womb.

Hi Mr. Hoob,

Amen to that! And, can you imagine how much talent, intelligence, and creative blessings such as this -- HAVE been lost in the OVER 50 MILLION Americans who have died of abortion since 1973?

Thank you for sharing this with us.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

We are a Country that Kills it's Babies and tries to make the old People live to be a Hundred the Lord has said that "Vengance is mine saith the lord I will repay" and repay he will for taking the Life of an unborn Baby, and we wonder why our Country has gone to the Dogs, we have abandoned God and Elected us a President with no Morals at all, I think that he is a Closet Muslim, if he is elected in 2012 you can write the U.S. off,

do you mean to tell us that we are now just going to the dogs. in just two years? ain't that something.

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Originally posted by prince albert:
We are a Country that Kills it's Babies and tries to make the old People live to be a Hundred the Lord has said that "Vengance is mine saith the lord I will repay" and repay he will for taking the Life of an unborn Baby, and we wonder why our Country has gone to the Dogs, we have abandoned God and Elected us a President with no Morals at all, I think that he is a Closet Muslim, if he is elected in 2012 you can write the U.S. off,

At what age do you suggest we stop providing treatment for old people?

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Originally posted by logical:

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Originally posted by prince albert:
We are a Country that Kills it's Babies and tries to make the old People live to be a Hundred the Lord has said that "Vengance is mine saith the lord I will repay" and repay he will for taking the Life of an unborn Baby, and we wonder why our Country has gone to the Dogs, we have abandoned God and Elected us a President with no Morals at all, I think that he is a Closet Muslim, if he is elected in 2012 you can write the U.S. off,

At what age do you suggest we stop providing treatment for old people?

Obamacare will take care of that question for us. Oh, no. Did I just label myself as racist by saying something negative about the POTUS?
As for abortion, the women who are pro-abortion ask "What about MY rights?" Well, what about the right of the baby?
"It's my body." No, it's the baby's body, you know, that defenseless little human being who is relying on you for protection and nourishment.
"But, I didn't want to get pregnant right now. I'm still in school." SO! Your BABY didn't ask to be murdered by an immersion blender. Actually, an immersion blender would probably be more humane than the actual procedure. Look up "The Silent Scream" on YouTube.

I don't know what age they should stop treating old People, I am 76 and always feel like Krap, I go to the Dr and sometimes he will give me something to swallow and most times not, Every thing I get is something that they can't do anything about so most of the time they will say come back in 6 months. they don't know anything to do but they need the Money.

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It's my body." No, it's the baby's body, you know, that defenseless little human being who is relying on you for protection and nourishment.
"But, I didn't want to get pregnant right now. I'm still in school." SO! Your BABY didn't ask to be murdered by an immersion blender. Actually, an immersion blender would probably be more humane than the actual procedure. Look up "The Silent Scream" on YouTube.

I'm right 97% of the time. Who cares about the other 4%?!?

dI have heard Women say "it's my Body and I can do what I want to with it". No here is what God says about it.

Cor 6:19 Or know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which ye have from God? and ye are not your own;
1Cor 6:20 for ye were bought with a price: glorify God therefore in your body.

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and Elected us a President with no Morals at all, I think that he is a Closet Muslim, if he is elected in 2012 you can write the U.S. off,

he already served his 2 terms ending in 2008, he cant be elected again

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and Elected us a President with no Morals at all, I think that he is a Closet Muslim, if he is elected in 2012 you can write the U.S. off,

he already served his 2 terms ending in 2008, he cant be elected again

Actually according to the Constitution Article II, Section 1 (1.1) the President is elected to a term of 4 (four) years. The XXII (22nd) Amendment Section 1 (March 1, 1951, F.R. Doc 51-2940, 16 F.R. 2019) then limited the time that the President could serve to Two Terms or 8 years

President Obama will have finished his 1st term in 2012, being elected in 2008. Effectively though his power and effect upon our nation can be greatly bridled and controlled if the November 2010 election in which 1/3 of the Senate and the whole House will be voted upon thereby giving the opportunity for the Republicans to gain control of the House and/or Senate.
Since each Senator serves a 6 year term and 1/3rd of the senate comes up for election every two years it can take longer for control of the Senate to be done. I do though realize that you are trying here to refer back to President George Bush who has done not near the damage that this current President is doing. George Bush also has kept decorum, as a past President, something that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton could well learn a lesson from. People always point to Joe Wilson due to his calling President Obama a "Liar" which was (and is) out of order and not keeping with the decorum of their position yet the President, who should know better and should be above all of them, did FAR WORSE in his State of the Union speech to Congress when he belittled a captive Supreme Court because he disagreed with one of their decisions and then Congress applauded in their agreement. This was a far more egregious violation of Decorum by someone in a position much greater in power that should have known better but then when he is uncertain about the number of states we have saying we have 57 as he said, instead of the 50 we do have then what can you expect from an inexperienced novice. George Bush at least kept the Office of the President one of Respect and continues to be respectful something that Carter, Clinton, and yes President Obama could well learn from.

If not for the XVII (17th) Amendment, which I believe took a huge part of the States power away from the States the Senate would not be an elected position anyway but rather according to the framers of the Constitution and founding fathers the Senate was to be composed of 2 representatives of each state and both would be appointed out of each states Legislature.

One might wonder if this wasn't the best way to do it and if we would be in better condition, as a country, if the Senate was still appointed by the State Legislature rather than elected by the people.

I wonder how many folks knew this? I think it shameful that a majority of elected officials would fail a Civics test and don't even know about the Constitution that they are supposedly bound by. No wonder we get so many crazy laws and find ourselves in such trouble today.

In fact IF our President and Congress and Judicial branches operated only by the Constitutional powers that were given to them then Row vs. Wade would not be an issue nor would it be "law" as the Judicial branch never was given the ability or power to "make Law" which Row vs. Wade effectively did. Congress, given their powers and Checks and Balances could have corrected that mistake and put the Judicial Branch in Check but they failed to do their job and be a Check against the Judicial making law.

If the Congress and President also abided by the Constitution then we would never have had one Bail Out of anyone. We would not have sent Aid to Haiti or any other country due to a disaster nor would we have even sent aide, in the form of money to Katrina or any other region.

The founding Fathers, in their wording and writings, with respect to the Constitution never gave the Government power to do such. Such aide and help was to come on a tiered basis. First Families would take care of Families, second as Families couldn't' cope or was overwhelmed then friends would be the next level followed by the Church then Neighborhoods, local level cities or districts, then the States and after all that if needed the Federal Government then could act. Now we have a Government and Congress which throws away money without thinking.

We have a country and Government that has strayed so far from the Constitution that they are supposed to uphold and be governed by that one wonders how we could have gotten so far away.

Aw yes ... one reason is Education (another entity that was never meant to be controlled by the Federal Government but rather maintained at the State level (X 0r 10 (tenth) Amendment, which reads.

Amendment X "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

We have allowed our Educational system to become so inept and failing that no longer is Civics taught like it should, no longer is memorizing or studying the Constitution as it was years ago and the more we relegate History to Political Correctness eliminating the study of men like John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and George Washington as well as Post Founding Fathers, President Abraham Lincoln and we allow our students to graduate knowing very little about this countries founding and it's government then no wonder we elect leaders and politicians as we have and end up with laws and policies as we end up with.

I know that this is the Religious Forum and we have got off on Politics, please bear with me one moment, Obama will try anything to keep his Majority, why do you think they are making Pueto Rico a State"? 2 more Senators and Six house seats, also they are trying to give D.C. a Senator Pueto Rico don't want to be a State but Obama says that he knows Best,and I heard him say all he needed in 2012 is the young people ., Blacks, and Hispanics, that is the reason he he messed over the old People, now back to Religion

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Originally posted by prince albert:
I know that this is the Religious Forum and we have got off on Politics, please bear with me one moment, Obama will try anything to keep his Majority, why do you think they are making Pueto Rico a State"? 2 more Senators and Six house seats, also they are trying to give D.C. a Senator Pueto Rico don't want to be a State but Obama says that he knows Best,and I heard him say all he needed in 2012 is the young people ., Blacks, and Hispanics, that is the reason he he messed over the old People, now back to Religion

Good point .. Like you I'm sorry to deviate from the topic - but one last statement ... I don't know if the Founding Fathers ever conceived of our could write around an ignorant electorate in their quest to keep our government one of the people and away from Tyranny or a Dictatorship type government. To most it's Democrat vs Republican with very little thought as to compliance to the Constitution and that which stabilizes and protects our Government and thus our way of life and Freedoms.

Someone on the "news" forum argues that it is "her choice/her body" because the fetus is not viable without her.
She's right- the baby is in the most frail, dependent state imaginable. Depending on her/his mother for every beat of his/her heart. It is these, the most vulnerable of all people that we are obligated to protect. The whole thing just makes me so sad...