I will never understand why this kind of things have to happen to the innocent.
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quote:Originally posted by kimberleehel:
What does Christian condolences suppose to mean?
quote:Originally posted by yankeegramma:
All this really boils down to,is someone NOT supervising this child.
quote:Originally posted by Young Old Man:
I will never understand why this kind of things have to happen to the innocent.
quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:quote:Originally posted by yankeegramma:
All this really boils down to,is someone NOT supervising this child.
Have you not ever had a small child to suddenly get away from you?
quote:Originally posted by trader:
Please bare with me here as I attempt not to answer the question but to answer the question of just what is life and with that, it may resolve some of the questions, pertaining to the question ask here.
This question has been asked since man's arrival on this earth. In many languages, many cultures,and under many circumstances that do not make sense to the reasoning and pragmatic portion of the human mind. Some during times like this turn to a force which some call "God" for support. Some turn to the source of life in anger which they refer to as "God" and point a finger of condemnation.
If you are one who believes in a Guiding Force, Energy, God, Godess, etc, then your belief is that it is ,"one that is seen and of the unseen, all that is, all that has ever been, and all that will ever be.
To understand the above simple phrase will be the hardest thing you will ever do, yet the easiest. Why, because you have to change your perspective of who (Life)you, we, the little girl. are and come to the realization that we are a "sum" of the "whole" (Life).
It is the easiest thing one can do.... for you have to do nothing, for all you have to do is "be". It is not a action, but simply an acknowledgement of admission.
It is simply that we are greater than and more than you have thought you,we and the little girl were before. This is when you realize that the "Life force"(life) that is within each of our bodies is not a individual enity within itself, but a portion of the whole.(Life)
From this, the phrase comes "WE ARE ALL ONE". Many have heard this, yet have rejected it, and that rejection has been the cause of many of wars. Untold heartaches brought about by human actions against other humans thinking that we are indiviuals. If they thought we are all one, then certain events that have occurred in our history would have never occurred, as it would not be sensible to do those things to ourself.
So please give me the right to interexchange just for this purpose of my view the word "God" with "Life". In my mind nothing that is, is not "Life". "Life" is all there is, all there has ever been and all there will ever be. Nothing exist outside of "Life".
"Life"(God) needs nothing to occur other than what is occurring. "Life" needs nothing to occur except what is occuring. The "Universe" needs nothing to occur except what is occuring.
That is the "Nature" of things. This is "how" it is. It is "NOT" in my mind how some have imagined it.
If one believes the above, you understand the "Truth" about "Life".
It is impossible for you or the little girl to not survive. You, She or we cannot not fail to "Live". It becomes a question of NOT do you or does she live but "HOW" we live. Other words, in what "FORM" do you, I or she exist at times.
If it is true that "Life" is every lasting, and you, I or she is a "Sum of Life" then it is impossible for life to not exist. Remember if "Life" is not only the seen but the unseen, then just because she is no longer of the physical realm, does not mean her "Life Force" (God Force) no longer exist. Thus, while she may no longer be of this physcial rheam, nothing really has been taken away. Her parents and all of us are just like her, "A SUM OF THE LIFE FORCE". It is impossible for one to die, for to do so would reveal that the "Life force" that is of which we are a sum could also die.
Now! comes the question and the answer to my mind, which some have a very difficult time in accepting.
If the "Life Force" (God) is first cause, then what can occur that the "Life Force"(God) did not cause in the first place?
If the "Life Force"(God) is all powerful as some believe, what can occur that the "Life Force" did not choose to occur?
Is it possible for something to occur that the "Life Force" could not stop?
If the "Life Force" is choosing not to stop it, is the occurrence itself not something which the "Life Force" is choosing?
The answer: OF COURSE IT IS
Then the question comes, why would the "Life Force"(God) do something or allow something that would make it unhappy?
Now here comes the hard part for some who read this..."Nothing Makes the "Life Force" (God) Unhappy.
Now! the reason some reject this is, they cannot reason there is a "Life Force" without NEED or JUDGEMENT.
The reason they cannot believe this and it rings untrue is they cannot reason that such a "human' exist.They have trouble believing there is a "Life Force" greater than their "sum", and they would be right.
In reality, the "Life Force" is not greater than the Sum, for how could it be? The 'Life Force is of which is You, I and the little girl, and you,I and the little girl are which is the "Life Force". Yet! many have fail to recogize they are greater than they are.
We as humans have a need to explain things or put into perspective things that happen that are out of our control. So we created a rationale of why certain things occur. Some in that rationale went so far to say it is "God's Will or the Life Forces Will".
With that came the second...fiquring out just what the "Life Force's'(God's) will was. In order to do this, we started to develop our cultural beliefs and from this came the Phrase "thy will be done", and with that phrase we developed that the "Life Force" has an agenda for us.
In this cultural development, we then told ourselves that we are separate from the "Life force", and from this came the belief that "Death Exist". Some have excepted this, and some have come to recognize that death is but an illusion. Death for it to exist would be to say that "Life" does not exist, for we are "Life Itself", and for death to exist, then the 'Life Force" within each of us, would have the capability to die also. If Death exist, then it must be concluded that the "Life Force" (God)does not exist, since death and the "life Force"(God) are exclusive of each other.
If you are one that believes in "God" or the "Life Force" then you are one that believes that death is but an "Illusion" or a transition of 'Sum of the Life Force Energy" from the "SEEN BACK INTO THE UNSEEN". Otherwords, the "Sum of the Life Force" form that had existed as the seen, has merely changed into another form of the unseen. From this will come the realization that the illusion that time has run out for that little girl's life is but an illusion. Once you understand this, then you come to the realization that the change of form is but a change into more life. You can relax under that banner of faith, that while departed from this rheam, she has entered into another to continue that life force existence with other experiences to come.
This alters everything for then you realize that "WE SHOULD LOVE LIFE AS IT IS" and relish in the fact this is but one existence and experience. We then come to the conclusion that life here has nothing to do with the "WILL OF THE LIFE FORCE(GOD)", for there is "NO ONE ELSE IN THE ROOM. There is "ONLY ONE OF US".
If this is true, then everything happens in perfect order. We, I, the little girl are all at cause in creating the events of our existence here. We are co-creaters with the creator in producing circumstances leading to the events in our lifes. We, as humans sometimes think more of the physical realm, than of our soul. Some have forgotten, and some do not believe this at all, that the Soul intuitively seeks the perfect circumstance and situation of which it wishes to experience.The soul has fiqured out what the human mind cannot or has difficulty in conceiving.
Sometimes the Soul cuts it life short for it understands that it is not causing its death, it is simply releasing itself from the earthly bondage into another form. Then comes the question then do "accidents" really exist or are they utilized only as a method in which to free the soul like a butterfly as from a cocoon. Yes! the ones who are left behind mourn the lost of that soul and rightly so. But hopefully, they will come to realize that what happen was actually a birth and not a death.
What has occurred happened as it was meant to be for I really don't believe the "Life Force"(God) has made a mistake in a long...long ...time...do you?
quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:
A mistake? Lets see, The God of the Christian bible allowed 6 million of his chosen people to be slaughtered. was that meant to be?
quote:Originally posted by mekirk2:quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:
A mistake? Lets see, The God of the Christian bible allowed 6 million of his chosen people to be slaughtered. was that meant to be?
Some folks have learned to accept things as being Gods will. Some things you just cant explain in earthly terms. Gods plan seldom makes perfect sense.
After all, you are here, arent you....
quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:
Just what is Gods plan?
quote:Originally posted by mekirk2:quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:
Just what is Gods plan?
I wouldnt know, its not my plan. Im just along for the ride.....
quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:
Why are you posting about it then?
quote:Originally posted by mekirk2:quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:
Why are you posting about it then?
Same reason you are, only I have a bit of compassion. You?
quote:Originally posted by baracus:
Atheist unreal?
That explains a lot.
quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:
No, not the same reason I am. I am not afraid to state how I feel.
The fact is, you jumped in another of my postings trying to harass me but I called you on this one.
Now...either put up or shut up!
quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:quote:Originally posted by mekirk2:quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:
Why are you posting about it then?
Same reason you are, only I have a bit of compassion. You?
No, not the same reason I am. I am not afraid to state how I feel.
The fact is, you jumped in another of my postings trying to harass me but I called you on this one.
Now...either put up or shut up!
quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:quote:Originally posted by mekirk2:quote:Originally posted by Surreal Justice:
Why are you posting about it then?
Same reason you are, only I have a bit of compassion. You?
No, not the same reason I am. I am not afraid to state how I feel.
The fact is, you jumped in another of my postings trying to harass me but I called you on this one.
Now...either put up or shut up!
quote:Originally posted by Young Old Man:
Thanks for your input Trader. I guess the question was not of interest to Kimberleehel so the subject was rudely changed.
quote:The child was not left unattended. The driver was speeding and didn't realized she hit the child. She didn't stop immediately, she drove down the road, turned around and came back. Her car was impounded and the state troopers held the woman for 4 hours. I feel there will be charges against her. As for the ones that want to blame the girl's family, shame on you.
quote:Originally posted by Trutooit-II:quote:The child was not left unattended. The driver was speeding and didn't realized she hit the child. She didn't stop immediately, she drove down the road, turned around and came back. Her car was impounded and the state troopers held the woman for 4 hours. I feel there will be charges against her. As for the ones that want to blame the girl's family, shame on you.
I once hit a large dog on 71. I wasn't sure what I'd hit since it was almost dark. I had to drive almost a mile to find a place to turn around. Could have been the case with this lady. I wouldn't throw stones at her either. If the troopers held her she should have called a family member or lawyer.
quote:Originally posted by A Father:
As for the ones that want to blame the girl's family, shame on you.
quote:There is one thing that does ring true for all of us and that is "Every living thing has "The Life Force dewelling within it, and because of that all living things have that "IN COMMON", and YES! surreal, I know this makes you cringe but even you, Sassy,Kirk,and I.
quote:"Hitler did NO HARM OR DAMAGE" to the souls whose SUPPOSED DEATH he caused. True.... without a doubt,one may kill the body, but WE ARE NOT our body, or mind, as we are a "LIFE FORCE" that some refer as 'THE SOUL OR SPIRIT". NO SOUL HAS EVER BEEN KILLED BY HITLER OR ANYONE ELSE, FOR IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO. Hitler's action simply released those souls from their earthly existence into another FORM OF LIFE or ENERGY.
quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:quote:Originally posted by A Father:
As for the ones that want to blame the girl's family, shame on you.
The lady that said the child was not being supervised is cruel. I hope her judgemental attitude doesn't come back & bite her in the butt.
It only takes a split second for a child to get away from you. May not be the case here with this child but it does happen. I wish this family peace but it will be a long time coming, if ever. My heart goes out to them.