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I have posted on this before, but thought I would do so again since reading this exchange between jmbo35660 and SaltyDog from the "There could be trouble" thread:

"As far as being a race issue, why is it that people forget Obama is half white? The Blacks call him a Black man. I guess if they are voting for him just because he's Black then they ignore the White half. If he wins, can we Whites ignore the Black half and just support the White half? Why aren't we White people demanding our half and calling him a White man?"

"His momma is white along with his grandmother who raised him. But, he calls himself a black man. Who knows where the black man, his daddy is? Obama is not stupid. He played the card that would get him elected."

"His father passed away, but he left Obama when he was two and they were never even close. Therefore, I think we can just erase the Black half altogether. After all, the White part of his family made him what he is today because they raised him."

Please, for anyone with questions like these, read up on the One Drop Rule, and the Office of Management and Budget's Statistical Directive 15. You will learn that our government is the cause of Obama being considered as a black man.

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From "One Drop of Blood" by Lawrence Wright:

"...were identified simply as black because of a peculiarly American institution known informally as "the one-drop rule," which defines as black a person with as little as a single drop of "black blood." This notion derives from a long discredited belief that each race had its own blood type, which was correlated with physical appearance and social behavior. The antebellum South promoted the rule as a way of enlarging the slave population with the children of slaveholders. By the nineteen-twenties, in Jim Crow America the one- drop rule was well established as the law of the land. It still is, according to a United States Supreme Court decision as late as 1986, which refused to review a lower court's ruling that a Louisiana woman whose great-great-great-great-grandmother had been the mistress of a French planter was black--even though that proportion of her ancestry amounted to no more than three thirty- seconds of her genetic heritage."

Do yourself a favor and at least skim over some of this, and get informed.
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Thank you, Ms. B.

The blogosphere and the dumbosphere are rife with silly assertions that Obama is "not black" or is "an Arab" or is a Muslim. How astonishing and ironic that in the deep-rooted history of this nation's abuse of the black race, the criterion of "one drop" was so harshly used to enforce discrimination, but now that we have made enormous progress in race relations, the pseuso-anthropologists sally forth to advise us a given person of substance and accomplishment is not "black" unless some undefined, but much larger, fraction of his/her genetic heritage can be traced to certain African roots.

Had Obama claimed to be white, one wonders what jmbo35660 and SaltyDog would have posted about THAT!! Their real problem is not with Obama's genetics. Their real angst here is that Obama, being black, would be expected to get a very large share of the votes of black persons. Their problem is further compounded by their anticipation that he would also get a big chunk of the white and Latino vote. These "problems," as we now know, have resulted in the election of this intelligent, articulate and, yes, even elegant, black man to the Presidency and it was the prospect of THAT which generated the inane and irrelevant commentary of jmbo35660 and SaltyDog!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mrs. Carl Brutananadilewski:
I have posted on this before, but thought I would do so again since reading this exchange between jmbo35660 and SaltyDog from the "There could be trouble" thread:

"As far as being a race issue, why is it that people forget Obama is half white? The Blacks call him a Black man. I guess if they are voting for him just because he's Black then they ignore the White half. If he wins, can we Whites ignore the Black half and just support the White half? Why aren't we White people demanding our half and calling him a White man?"

"His momma is white along with his grandmother who raised him. But, he calls himself a black man. Who knows where the black man, his daddy is? Obama is not stupid. He played the card that would get him elected."

"His father passed away, but he left Obama when he was two and they were never even close. Therefore, I think we can just erase the Black half altogether. After all, the White part of his family made him what he is today because they raised him."



Which half is black and which half is white?
Speaking of history i am seeing some irony to our history .makes ya wonder even moreso about the old saying,"what goes around comes back around"
We,by that i mean the white European settlers came to this country and stole all the land from the Native Americans and shoved them on reservations. We,the white Europeans, fought and ran the Mexicans south as far as we wanted. We,the white Europeans then shipped the black people from Africa to our stolen land to work for us.
Native Americans are becoming an educated,very wealthy part of this country, reclaiming lands left and right. We are being swamped with Mexicans coming in here,claiming neighborhoods and taking jobs. Blacks have struggled and now have achieved the very highest office of this country.
In all seriousness, I think we should give the man a chance. I think there's going to be a huge change in attitude in a few months and especially in four years. He'll either do well as the first black president or he may be even more historic - our last black president.

And I suppose we should not even think about HIM period. And grow up and realize a president is a figurehead - whether he's black or white he's going to dance to the puppet strings of the political machine and special interests of those that put him in office.
I didn't mean to stomp on your positive attitude, but seriously, I don't think any ONE person who has been picked to be a figurehead (and you know they used every computer analysis and demographic they could find to see who/what would have the greatest chance of winning votes) is going to do a whole lot for any of us. (By us I mean just everyday normal people who can't put bucks in special interests pockets).

From what I read on David Duke's website - he's endorsed Obama almost from the get go.
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Originally posted by smurph:
Speaking of history i am seeing some irony to our history .makes ya wonder even moreso about the old saying,"what goes around comes back around"
We,by that i mean the white European settlers came to this country and stole all the land from the Native Americans and shoved them on reservations. We,the white Europeans, fought and ran the Mexicans south as far as we wanted. We,the white Europeans then shipped the black people from Africa to our stolen land to work for us.
Native Americans are becoming an educated,very wealthy part of this country, reclaiming lands left and right. We are being swamped with Mexicans coming in here,claiming neighborhoods and taking jobs. Blacks have struggled and now have achieved the very highest office of this country.


Smurph, what you say makes sense, and shows, whether you are right or wrong, that you are definitely one to think outside the box. It's something to ponder, for sure. Though, I don't think we are getting paid back in a negative way. I think most of the "paybacks" you've listed above are positive things!
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Originally posted by SHELDIVR:
Mrs. CarlB, you think RACE is a man made social category and there are no differences...??? You've got to be kidding...ever hear of cycle cell?? That is just the beginning of the differences, not the ending...you should rethink that response.


I understand your sentiment, but do some research on race, there are many varying opinions, and it is debatable.

How many different races are there? How do you determine ones race? By their appearance?

A lot of research on sickle cell points out that it is a gene variant related to malaria, and affects people more frequently with a geographic heritage tied to regions that are prone to malaria.

Who knows? I'm just saying that it is my opinion that race is closer to being a social construct, an idea thought up by man, than something scientifically real.

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