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I have yet to see any facts. All I see posted over and over again rants about corporations making things expensive because they're greedy, they don't pay enough in taxes and anyone who doesn't believe that is brain-washed by the corporate media (where have I heard that before).

I've shown you where the government took 7 out of 16 billion from Exxon, thats 43% and thats a fact. I've shown you that the top 1% of Americans paid 36% of the taxes, that info comes from the IRS, and thats a fact.

When you can actually back up your rants with something besides false and mis-leading information or wild claims that everyone is brain-washed you might actually be able to defend your position.
They don't have any facts, Rider. They can't disprove ours. They can lie about it and call us liars, but they can't actually produce the goods.

And yes, Allysmom. If someone wants to debate facts, fine. But if someone calls me a liar, I go for the throat and won't think twice about it. All bets are off when you cross that line.
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People were told LONG in advance that the XBBox was coming out, gave them time to save, work another job... but probably MOST of the people buying them could be wealthy, huh?

Thing is... if X Box can put out a great product for half of what PS does, then how does PS stay in business... because the wealthy buy from them, for one thing, for another... most of them do not CARE if they go out of business, they are so rich now that even their graat grand children will never have to work a day in their life.


People knew for several years that the PS3 was in the works just like X-Box. The company that makes the PS3 stays in business because that company is Sony. PS3 is just a hobby to them. X-Box and Wii are successful because they are affordable. PS3 is too expensive and did not sell.

The point I was making and that you missed was that the market determines prices. Price something too high and it won't sell. Price something affordable and it will. Therefore the price of goods can't rise past the average income or everyone goes out of business. Wal-Mart didn't get as big as it is now by selling high, they are successful because they sold low.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Tell me, what numbers did I post that are wrong?

Second, you already did welcome me.


I couldn't have ... I haven't been on there, but I CAN get on there and welcome you properly!!!! I can even find out who you are and the whole nine yards, if I so desire... but I don't... ... actually, I don't even CARE.


Finding that one post in what, 45,000 or so is going to be quite a chore.


Did I say I was going to try to find ONE post in 45,000??? I am much smarter than that!!! LOL... you sell me short, and someday that might not go to your favor...

Thing is... You are applauding YOUR OWN SELF so much on here, that there are many that don't like it anymore... at first it was "cute" to them, now it is just boring to have someone who posts from google without links..

And now you can get this... I DO NOT CARE ONE BIT whether you google, or if you find someone out there who can tell you my name... wow, you might do good, ... someday... But when I get back on the other site,... believe me, I will know who you are in no time flat!!!

OMG!!!! Now this just KEEPS on getting funnier and funnier... almost to the point of being SAD!!! You said out of your own mouth that you were not interested one single bit about another website, then you JOINED it???? ROFLLLLLLLLLLMAO!!! Now that tells ME Volumes about you!!!!
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You said out of your own mouth that you were not interested one single bit about another website, then you JOINED it????


Keep 'em coming KS. Baseless lies. When did I say that? You can accuse all you want, but you make stuff up like a 3 year old. You have yet to PROVE even one of your allegations against me. Silence speaks volumes.
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Keep 'em coming KS. Baseless lies. When did I say that? You can accuse all you want, but you make stuff up like a 3 year old. You have yet to PROVE even one of your allegations against me. Silence speaks volumes.


But there IS proof!!! Don't you SEE!! Bush is HIDING all of the FACTS!! Right now he's in the White House KILLING PUPPIES!!!! I love LAMP! There were HORSES and a man on FIRE and I killed a guy with a TRIDENT!!!!!!! Roll Eyes Big Grin Big Grin Razzer Eeker Mad
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Originally posted by allysmom:
Well if it bothers you that much then you need to call her a B*t*h, s*ut or a troublemaker, or even call her a liar back (like you did), but you should not try to use someones real name on a forum.


Those names wouldn't be true, now would they?
Or... would they?


You would not admit you were wrong in a million years would you?
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Originally posted by that smart chick:
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Originally posted by allysmom:
Well if it bothers you that much then you need to call her a B*t*h, s*ut or a troublemaker, or even call her a liar back (like you did), but you should not try to use someones real name on a forum.


Those names wouldn't be true, now would they?
Or... would they?


You would not admit you were wrong in a million years would you?


Sure I would. And I have on this forum. If someone can show me where I am wrong, have at it. KS can't and she won't and she's just throwing mud around and I am going to throw it right back.
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You said out of your own mouth that you were not interested one single bit about another website, then you JOINED it????


Keep 'em coming KS. Baseless lies. When did I say that? You can accuse all you want, but you make stuff up like a 3 year old. You have yet to PROVE even one of your allegations against me. Silence speaks volumes.



Not a lie, may take me a little while to find it, but when I do, I want to actually ADMIT for once that YOU are wrong!!!
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Originally posted by that smart chick:
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Well if it bothers you that much then you need to call her a B*t*h, s*ut or a troublemaker, or even call her a liar back (like you did), but you should not try to use someones real name on a forum.


Those names wouldn't be true, now would they?
Or... would they?


You would not admit you were wrong in a million years would you?


Sure I would. And I have on this forum. If someone can show me where I am wrong, have at it. KS can't and she won't and she's just throwing mud around and I am going to throw it right back.



Dang, now you are going to make me HAVE to go through the hunting expedition to find where you said you wanted NO part of another site, and I commented that you were not invited... AND THEN YOU PROCEEDED TO JOIN!!!

I LOVE IT, and I shall prove it... the reading starts tonight, and I cannot wait to show you and the whole world just WHO the liar is!!!!

This is gonna be fun!!!

And allysmom is right, you dont have it IN you to admit you are wrong about anything... it just isnt there... even your nickname shows what YOU think of YOU... speaks volumes, just like the other comments you make that some let "slide" because they think you will come after them next...

Guess what? I ain't a bit scared!!! C'mon!!!! Smiler
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Originally posted by that smart chick:
Here I am Kindred. I'm not going anywhere.
Somebody else wanna call me a liar? You bet, I'm coming after them next.


You ARE a liar, and you cheat with your comments by playing the google game and not providing the link...

Now, I am finished here for now because I have a mission to accomplish... I am going to find that Post and bring the link to it back here to PROVE you are a liar...

As far as your providing the LINK you google from, if you don't and just use the words off the site... then you are infringing on their copyright laws... UNLESS you provide the link.

Say what you will about PBA, but he doesn't EVER infringe on copyright laws, he ALWAYS posts the links... but do you??? NO, you don't... but you HAVE admitted to all of us that you google faster than anyone!!!

Hmmmmm, this COULD get interesting.... Big Grin
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by that smart chick:
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Originally posted by allysmom:
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Originally posted by that smart chick:
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Originally posted by allysmom:
Well if it bothers you that much then you need to call her a B*t*h, s*ut or a troublemaker, or even call her a liar back (like you did), but you should not try to use someones real name on a forum.


Those names wouldn't be true, now would they?
Or... would they?


You would not admit you were wrong in a million years would you?


Sure I would. And I have on this forum. If someone can show me where I am wrong, have at it. KS can't and she won't and she's just throwing mud around and I am going to throw it right back.



Dang, now you are going to make me HAVE to go through the hunting expedition to find where you said you wanted NO part of another site, and I commented that you were not invited... AND THEN YOU PROCEEDED TO JOIN!!!

I LOVE IT, and I shall prove it... the reading starts tonight, and I cannot wait to show you and the whole world just WHO the liar is!!!!

This is gonna be fun!!!

And allysmom is right, you dont have it IN you to admit you are wrong about anything... it just isnt there... even your nickname shows what YOU think of YOU... speaks volumes, just like the other comments you make that some let "slide" because they think you will come after them next...

Guess what? I ain't a bit scared!!! C'mon!!!! Smiler


OH No, KS is on a mission

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Originally posted by NashBama:
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Keep 'em coming KS. Baseless lies. When did I say that? You can accuse all you want, but you make stuff up like a 3 year old. You have yet to PROVE even one of your allegations against me. Silence speaks volumes.


But there IS proof!!! Don't you SEE!! Bush is HIDING all of the FACTS!! Right now he's in the White House KILLING PUPPIES!!!! I love LAMP! There were HORSES and a man on FIRE and I killed a guy with a TRIDENT!!!!!!! Roll Eyes Big Grin Big Grin Razzer Eeker Mad



Wow, Pogo, lookee here, Nash is FINALLY opening his eyes to see a little bit of what is going on... I hope that soon he will see it all Wink
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"Wow, Pogo, lookee here, Nash is FINALLY opening his eyes to see a little bit of what is going on... I hope that soon he will see it all", she said because she still couldn't find any facts that I have posted on this thread that are false (or "off").
Deflect, deny, and cry.



Look woman, done told ya I am on a mission now, I know you are telling a lie, and I shall prove it... and I am also going to watch for copyright infingement from now on....

SO for right now, I AM FINISHED WITH YOU!!!! Get it now?
You've started, but we are far from finished.

You could begin by telling me WHAT did I post that infringed on copyrights or was not cited properly. Then you can tell me what numbers I posted that were OFF. You are blowing smoke. You don't have anything, because there isn't anything. Making up lies to make others look less credible is shameful and dirty.
Looks like I have missed alot here today. Sorry I've been away. I see that Pogo has still not provided any type of info showing just what the wealthy take "from the system." And, Pogo, I don't have to listen to the "corporate media" or the "drive by media" either. I can look at government spending and taxation and think for myself. It has nothing to do with conspiracies and wealthy pundits. It has everything to do with entitlement scum trying to take what they have not earned, what is not theirs, and what they don't deserve. It has everything to do with liberal media and liberal politicians trying to blame everything on people who are smarter than others, try harder than others, and succeed. It has everything to do with government waste and excessive spending. There will always be winners and losers, so quit whining and if you don't like where you're at, then go and figure out how to be a winner. I used to try to be nicer about it, but I'm with Nash: whats mine is mine and whats yours is yours. If you or the poor want more, GO EARN IT!!! Quit trying to take it from others.

And Smart Chick, I'm with you. I'd like to see those "bunch of sites" that disagree with you. I still haven't seen one single bit of proof from any of these people that shows how the wealthy don't pay their share, and how the benefit so much from the system. And just like they can't see why we keep defending the honest wealthy, I can't see why they don't understand that people are abusing the system, benefiting from something they contribute nothing to, bleeding us all dry, and thinking they have a right to it. UGHHHH!

Frankly, I feel like we should have a system in this country where you can choose what you contribute to and then what benefits you are qualified for. If Pogo, KS, and some of these others want to keep whining about how good the rich have it, ALL THE WHILE CONTINUING TO THROW THEIR MONEY AT THESE SOCIALIST PROGRAMS WITHOUT COMPLAINT, then they should be happy to support those programs themselves. The rest of us should have the option to support ourselves and keep what is ours. They are all so concerned with taking money from those who have more than them, but they are more than happy to keep allowing this socialist, entitlement drain on the system to bleed them dry. Keep blaming the rich, see where it gets you. They are not the problem.
The facts I provided are from a 10q and the IRS, they are not from copyrighted material. There are two main reasons why I don't link to a source:1. as we know from phishing scams, clicking on links can be dangerous. I personally don't click on them so I don't provide them. 2. I prefer to do my own thinking, most links on here are just express someone else's opinion.
I'm with you midknightrider. If I post it and it is someone else's thoughts or opinons or work or whatever, I cite it. If there is "more to the story" and I know it to be a trusted source, then I post the link. But there is also "common knowledge" and "public domain" which require no citation.

She says I've posted something in this thread, not cited it, and it is false. She has yet to clarify that. I think it is great that they let the patients at Riverbend have computer access. I just wish they'd monitor it more closely.
Kindred, in case you forget what you are supposed to be finding during your easter egg hunt, first ~ this information that I allegedly posted:
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The information that you google here on this site, also has plenty of other sites on google that will give different numbers, and the whole nine yards...

ANYONE can get what they want off GOOGLE... and slant it the way they want to, and NOT use ANY link to connect to for others to see for themselves...

What was it? I didn’t post any facts/figures/ or info off of Google that were wrong or not properly cited.

Next, ok which is it? You do or you don’t care who I am?
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I couldn't have ... I haven't been on there, but I CAN get on there and welcome you properly!!!! I can even find out who you are and the whole nine yards, if I so desire... but I don't... ... actually, I don't even CARE.

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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
But when I get back on the other site,... believe me, I will know who you are in no time flat!!!


Next. Where did we converse about me wanting or not wanting to join other sites? I’m a member of quite a few. I’m always up to meet new people! Find this too:
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OMG!!!! Now this just KEEPS on getting funnier and funnier... almost to the point of being SAD!!! You said out of your own mouth that you were not interested one single bit about another website, then you JOINED it???? ROFLLLLLLLLLLMAO!!! Now that tells ME Volumes about you!!!
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And last, the conversation about PM’s. I’d be curious to know who I got “all over”. Never happened. So good luck finding it.
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Thanks allysmom... but this is coming from the VERY SAME WOMAN who got all over someone for spreading around a PM!!!!


Now before you tromp back into MY sandbox and start throwing toys, you better be ready to back your slinging up or be prepared to get it right back. I won't be shocked a bit when you come up empty handed and I bet no one else on this site will be, either.
Well, you definitely have the part about us not being FINISHED right... if you think for one second I would back down to the likes of you, you are sadly mistaken.... I am much better than that, and I my very own life experiences makes me too smart for that too... lol..

As far as me calling you a liar, it had nothing to do with your posts except to ME and ME only... as far as copyright infringement,... I HAVE to know the laws on that because ... well I HAVE to... and posting off of a google link, WITHOUT using that link IS copyright infringement... whether you like it or not.

And right now, as I said, I am on a mission... I am finding your lies, your deceptions, and your infringements, because I do remember you doing it, it is here, UNLESS you have gone on and edited it, in that case, that will show up too... but if I were you, that is exactly what I would do!!!

ANOTHER thing, your silly little copying my one liners and throwing in your crap is just that, silliness, because anyone can do that and put their own slant to it, just as YOU did... use everything I say, IN CONTEXT, or use nothing... otherwise you look like the idiot... and believe me,.. your couple of little followers on here are also for the VERY FIRST TIME, looking rather silly too...

I sincerely wish you could read my PM's, they are full, and it is from people who don't want to get involved, but are GLAD that you have FINALLY been called out... so ya see, I am not the only on, I am just THE one...

Get over yourself, I shall be back with all the information I need and then we will talk,.. Until then.. I will be ON HERE, but not reading any of your luring or baiting replies... so dont waste your breath.

And another thing, there may be a some who decide to go ahead and post to let you know just what I said above, and if you THREATEN them like the threat that was copied/pasted in my email this morning, I will turn you in myself!!! THAT is not right, and shows your violence level... and against the agreement you clicked on.

So for now, I have about 40 pages to read here so I can prove what has been said... unless YOU read some of tem and did some deleting?????? ROFLLLLLLLLLL, now THAT would make sense too... but most of the time, when I reply, the entire comment is there, including the comment by the one who made it... so if any of your comments go bye bye, I think they MAY still be able to be salvaged!!!!

BYE for now, and look forward to my return !!!!
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As far as me calling you a liar, it had nothing to do with your posts except to ME and ME only... as far as copyright infringement,... I HAVE to know the laws on that because ... well I HAVE to... and posting off of a google link, WITHOUT using that link IS copyright infringement... whether you like it or not.


Oh, I'm starting to tire of this. You still haven't provided proof of the above and it supposedly happend in this thread. No research, no digging, no Nancy Drew needs to get involved. Just point out what it was I posted that was not cited and not accurate. You can't. You are full of hot air and now everyone knows it. You are a joke. And not a very funny one, either.
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Well, you definitely have the part about us not being FINISHED right... if you think for one second I would back down to the likes of you, you are sadly mistaken.... I am much better than that, and I my very own life experiences makes me too smart for that too... lol..

As far as me calling you a liar, it had nothing to do with your posts except to ME and ME only... as far as copyright infringement,... I HAVE to know the laws on that because ... well I HAVE to... and posting off of a google link, WITHOUT using that link IS copyright infringement... whether you like it or not.

And right now, as I said, I am on a mission... I am finding your lies, your deceptions, and your infringements, because I do remember you doing it, it is here, UNLESS you have gone on and edited it, in that case, that will show up too... but if I were you, that is exactly what I would do!!!

ANOTHER thing, your silly little copying my one liners and throwing in your crap is just that, silliness, because anyone can do that and put their own slant to it, just as YOU did... use everything I say, IN CONTEXT, or use nothing... otherwise you look like the idiot... and believe me,.. your couple of little followers on here are also for the VERY FIRST TIME, looking rather silly too...

I sincerely wish you could read my PM's, they are full, and it is from people who don't want to get involved, but are GLAD that you have FINALLY been called out... so ya see, I am not the only on, I am just THE one...

Get over yourself, I shall be back with all the information I need and then we will talk,.. Until then.. I will be ON HERE, but not reading any of your luring or baiting replies... so dont waste your breath.

And another thing, there may be a some who decide to go ahead and post to let you know just what I said above, and if you THREATEN them like the threat that was copied/pasted in my email this morning, I will turn you in myself!!! THAT is not right, and shows your violence level... and against the agreement you clicked on.

So for now, I have about 40 pages to read here so I can prove what has been said... unless YOU read some of tem and did some deleting?????? ROFLLLLLLLLLL, now THAT would make sense too... but most of the time, when I reply, the entire comment is there, including the comment by the one who made it... so if any of your comments go bye bye, I think they MAY still be able to be salvaged!!!!

BYE for now, and look forward to my return !!!!


KS, I am not in this, but if you are as serious about this, as you seem, why would you be: rolling on the floor laughing,laughing,laughing,laughing,laughing,laughing,laughing,laughing,laughing,laughing? Are you REALLY rolling on the floor? Just wondering. Confused
gypsyc, because, when I am finished, then it will show an enitire picture here that a FEW people on here do not notice....

And TSC KNOWS it, so therefore she is making weird comments to try to "get my goat" ... which will never happen, but it is funny to see someone so judgemental PROVEN to be a different person than they claim. Sometimes in life, we all run across people who impress us, and that we sincerely LIKE, then subtely it changes until the demon comes out in them... I will also add in my MISSION my part in all this as well... So there WILL be some drama forthcoming, that will probably shock a lot of people.

True colors DO come out, and come out they WILL.

I mean absolutely NO disrespect to anyone here, but I was SENT on a mission, and I NEVER turn those down... and THANK YOU ***** (names withheld by choice) so much for the LINKS!!! VERY VERY helpful in my mission!!!!
I have my popcorn out and I am ready to watch the drama. Have at it as you will. I am not fake, I am the same today as I was yesterday and I'll be the same Chick tomorrow, too. I haven't posted any lies or frauds or whatnot or what-have-you. Seems that Kindred is all in a twist because someone called her out on one of her many false allegations and smear attempts and she got caught out on the carpet. Go ahead, make your drama. We are all watching.
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As far as me calling you a liar, it had nothing to do with your posts except to ME and ME only... as far as copyright infringement,... I HAVE to know the laws on that because ... well I HAVE to... and posting off of a google link, WITHOUT using that link IS copyright infringement... whether you like it or not.


Oh, I'm starting to tire of this. You still haven't provided proof of the above and it supposedly happend in this thread. No research, no digging, no Nancy Drew needs to get involved. Just point out what it was I posted that was not cited and not accurate. You can't. You are full of hot air and now everyone knows it. You are a joke. And not a very funny one, either.


I knew you would bait me with one more comment before I finish compiling and putting the proof/link on photobucket for ALL to see!!!!

Ya see, I have VOLUNTEERS helping now, so it wont be long, and we shall THEN see who has the hot air going on!!!! LOL!!!
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Originally posted by NashBama:
I like TATER TOTS!!!! Bush BAD!!!! Razzer Cool Roll Eyes Red Face Eeker Mad Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Nash, I like that side of you... shows me your other personna!!! Because it isn't your style to make fun of people... not that you always agree, but your style is way above actually making fun of...

Or is it??? Correct me if I have been wrong about you all this time? You and I have never agreed about politics and a few other things, but you always were a gentleman, and professional.. now this???

Does TSC mean THAT much to you that your entire personality changes? WOW!!!
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I knew you would bait me with one more comment before I finish compiling and putting the proof/link on photobucket for ALL to see!!!!


Wow... on Photobucket, for the world to see! I am shaking in my Jimmy Choos. I just asked you to tell me what I posted that was false and you had found "bunches" of sites to prove me wrong, and I get a whole spread constructed by volunteers on Photobucket? I am touched that I mean that much to so many people. Perhaps you all can build a house for Habitat for Humanity when this is finished.
Looks I missed a lot also. I am having trouble keeping up because of my work schedule and family and personal responsibilities. I will need to be off the Forum for a couple of days, probably, maybe sooner, I don't know yet. maybe limit the number of posts for a while.

Looks like this one is descending into nonsense

Either way someone in a previous thread posted from a site what I have been quoting, "that 1% has as much wealth as 90% of the people. " This one percent does not pay 90% of the taxes. And as I have stated tax rates were higher, much higher, on the wealthy and corporations for decades before the "Reagan Revolution" lowered them. No millionaire lost their money and we all enhjoyed a better quality and standard of life. Most of this scare talk is from the greedy that's fed to you by the media pundits who are paid by the greedy. taxing the very wealthy is not a crime and is a basic principle of Capitalism. They should pay more.

We are society and the reason they make these profits are off the labor of the workers, who should also share in the profits. Governments are instituted by men (people) to secure the unailable right of all the people in the society to "Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." The Governemnt is govenrment of all the people and has a responibility to all the people, not just the greedy rich.

Also, thanks for the support Kindred_Spirit and don't worry about this crew. They are heavily propagandized and taught to defend what they are told. That's why I keep talking about alternative and progressive sites. If you check it out you will be encouraged to find there is a whole nation and world outside of Alabama and this Forum. There are many people out there that do think and question and they are growing. I also post on AOL and I have seen the tide turning over the last few years.
Many people are waking up. It's why the democrats took congress.

But they were lied too by democrats who have not caved on many issues but many people are still moving forward.

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