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Originally posted by _Joy_:
PBA, if you mean the one titled "Times Daily is the best, boycott", he is defending Times Daily. It's the other ones (The Birmingham News, The Huntsville Times, al.com) that removed his posts and who he thinks should be boycotted.




I know and thanks for telling me. Times daily is doing the same.
Methinks that I'll leave the same response here as I did on Blues' thread. ---

Actually, this is quite common in forums. Especially ones like this one. It's not a knock on freedom of speech, but when you sign up for a website like this, you agree to abide by their rules.

Usually somewhere in the rules it states: "Anything can be deleted at the discretion of our monitors or moderators, at any time for any reason, seen fit by staff."

So, censorship is an issue. They don't have to allow your words on here, about anything that you post about. You could have the best thread ever in the existence of a forum, yet it too can be subject to deletion. That goes for just about every storyboard-discussion site, I've ever seen.

Is it fair? Probably not all the time, but you have to realize that on the TD they have two moderators that I know of (maybe some helpers) but they are completely overwhelmed when it comes to the post/reply ratio compared to the eyes that monitor those words. They can't see everything all the time, which might be the reason why you see Person A get away with typing something, yet Person B gets deleted for saying the same thing.

I know how hard of a job the moderators have, as I am an admin for a website that's 15 times the size of this one. We have around 40 admins for the ratio of 68,000 people. We have to read every reply, every thread, every private message, and monitor chat, because our website is g-pg rated and family friendly. It's impossible for even us, even being as thorough as possible to catch every little thing, but we do a good job at it. It's continuous work.

From what I've seen here on TD and other forums, the admins/monitors/moderators are completely understaffed. They aren't on here enough (from what I know) to even begin to run this place better, BUT from what I've seen the last week or so, I can tell they are trying to become better.

It's not fun being deleted, but if the admins/moderators/monitors do start doing more around here and cleaning it up, then it's going to happen more. The best you can do is either accept that, or don't post.

This is their website to do with what they want, they aren't publicly owned, and you do not pay to have the priviledge of your words to stay as posted. If you aren't careful, that may be the staff's solution to the whining is to make a fee to be paid for the service of posting here. I've seen that happen too in my time.

Basically, this is the internet, this isn't your website, you didn't pay for it, so your right to complain or boycott really isn't there for you. You can leave, and that's about it. Just as it is on any other forum like this, unless you own it, then you don't control the content.


Censorship at times can be a good thing, especially for children/young teens that might read certain topics. If they are totally censoring things, then no I don't agree with it. I feel that as long as what's said isn't slander or libel or profane, then it should be allowed to stand. I don't own this place though, nor do I monitor it, so if it's not, then that's up to the people who do. Smiler

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Besides, PBA, isn't it you that I saw replying to several threads saying,"This belongs in such and such category!"

Then most of the threads I saw that in, WERE moved to that category. Seems to me someone takes what you say in high regard on the monitoring team. You should respect that much and leave the rest of the complaining to other things.

Who is this NEW guy anyway? Big Grin

~Amanda
I want to know why the post about the retirement beging made in Sheffield has been taken off. It's very true that you don't want anyone to know the truth about the school system. Maybe if we quit buying your paper and trying to call you to publish stories that you just might listen to the other side. And trust me like the Principal and bookkeeper, there is another side. It is not even about money, but they want you to believe it is.
Put the post back!!! What was wrong with it??
Boycott TD!!!!!!
<<<Originally posted by Pilotclub>>>
<<<I want to know why the post about the retirement beging made in Sheffield has been taken off. It's very true that you don't want anyone to know the truth about the school system. Maybe if we quit buying your paper and trying to call you to publish stories that you just might listen to the other side. And trust me like the Principal and bookkeeper, there is another side. It is not even about money, but they want you to believe it is.
Put the post back!!! What was wrong with it??
Boycott TD!!!!!!>>>



GET A LIFE. Most of the people here on the forums, including me, are sick to death of hearing gossip about SCS, and I LIVE here in Sheffield. My kids attend school here and unless it's affecting their educations , I really don't give a hoot. If you want to talk about the education system, the buildings themselves, or whatever else, FINE. Otherwise, keep your Harper Valley PTA mentality to yourself. Thank you so very much.
First of all, the second post that was also deleted did not have any names mentioned. In order for there to have slanderous remarks, names must be mentioned. And for your info, there should be a blatant disregard for the truth to prove slander. Everything that was posted is true and can be proven. Are you the monitor that is taking posts off and leaving all the terrible remarks on the site? I would rather read quality info about important issues than read name calling and accusatory comments. I have two sons that attend SCS and I am very concerned with the turmoil and deceivences that are taking place at this school system. I live, pay taxes, shop, socialize, and breath right in the heart of Sheffield. If I want to post my concerns about the deceptions and cover ups that are going on at the Central Office and the wronging of good men (whom sometimes make mistakes), then I should have that opportunity. ESPECIALLY when I go back and rewrite the post to not list any names. Why was my second post taken off?
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
It was removed due to potentially slanderous statements, i.e., 'facts not in evidence'.
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Originally posted by tit.4.tat:
First of all, the second post that was also deleted did not have any names mentioned. In order for there to have slanderous remarks, names must be mentioned. And for your info, there should be a blatant disregard for the truth to prove slander. Everything that was posted is true and can be proven. Are you the monitor that is taking posts off and leaving all the terrible remarks on the site? I would rather read quality info about important issues than read name calling and accusatory comments. I have two sons that attend SCS and I am very concerned with the turmoil and deceivences that are taking place at this school system. I live, pay taxes, shop, socialize, and breath right in the heart of Sheffield. If I want to post my concerns about the deceptions and cover ups that are going on at the Central Office and the wronging of good men (whom sometimes make mistakes), then I should have that opportunity. ESPECIALLY when I go back and rewrite the post to not list any names. Why was my second post taken off?
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
It was removed due to potentially slanderous statements, i.e., 'facts not in evidence'.



It was still slanderous in nature due to the FIRST post that was put on here. Besides, it is not newsworthy, and none of any of our business.
tit4tat, your second post was taken off because you are evidently too ignorant to realize that even tho' you omitted the names, you still included the professional positions of these two people on it and therefore it was still considered slanderous. Give it up. Take out an ad, rent a sign, put up big posters at Food Land or find other means to spread your gossip, but the TD will keep removing your posts from the forums if you continue this childish nonsense, and they have every right to. I wonder about your own education if you really consider this drivel to be "quality info about important issues". Incidentally, earlier posts(including a few from me) about some other SCS issues didn't make a difference anyway, so don't waste your time. Things are the way they are. Every adult who works in the SCS system should be responsible enough to manage their own lives and careers with no help from you, me, or anybody else for that matter. They are perfectly capable of fighting their own battles. Why don't you just let them live their own lives and you just worry about living yours?
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You don't think that forcing one out of his job that he has been in for numerous years because of something that he did years ago is wrong? And this "other man" (was that better?) did it on school grounds and was allowed to get away with it? What if this happened to you? Would you still think it wasn't important? This man counseled my children and my idea and your idea of important is completely different. Looking back at some of your posts it is quiet evident what you find important...and about my education--is being a doctor educated enough for you? Maybe not...since you have hypocritical evidences in each of your posts anyway...
I was referring to some of pba's comments and then the very same day the comments were gone. She has very good insights and they weren't slanderous. I wonder what the reasoning behind the removal of her comments--did it piss of the republican monitors?
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Originally posted by SaltyDog:
tit4tat, your second post was taken off because you are evidently too ignorant to realize that even tho' you omitted the names, you still included the professional positions of these two people on it and therefore it was still considered slanderous. Give it up. Take out an ad, rent a sign, put up big posters at Food Land or find other means to spread your gossip, but the TD will keep removing your posts from the forums if you continue this childish charade, and they have every right to. I wonder about your own education if you really consider this drivel to be "quality info about important issues".
I assume you're talking to me. No, I'm not a hypocrite. The things I've posted about in the past that bothered me still bother me. You'll notice I've never spread rumors, attacked anyone, or talked about personal issues of staff members on these forums. Like I stated earlier, important issues like hygiene, budgets, taxes, a shortage of qualified teaching staff etc. might get a rise out of me but not anonymous gossip about who is boinking who. I don't care. And if someone is ever wrongfully fired (or forced into an early reitrement), there's a legal avenue they can and should take. Posting on a forum isn't going to help anyone, it will probably actually hurt them. If you really care about this person, don't do more harm than good. Capeesh? At any rate, I'm done with you and this thread! Seeya! Big Grin
Last edited by SaltyDog
PBA, you asked, I am going to tell you what me, as well as a few more think.

One one post recently, you came on in full caps and said THIS NEEDS TO BE MOVED, and wahlah, it was moved.

On the post yesterday you came in there using your CAPS saying DELETE THIS POST NOW, and wahlah, it was frozen, NOT deleted, but frozen, but NOT until after you and Melissa got your licks in on everyone. You two wanted to say what you wanted to say and to heck with everyone else.

DO YOU WORK FOR TIMES DAILY???? It appears so since YOU and YOU alone gets your way. Does "MELISSA" work there too????

Otherwise, the post would have remained the way it was or else deleted completely.

Your idea of FREEDOM OF SPEECH applies only to you. Sadly, you proved that to me yesterday!!!

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