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So long as Democrats settle for that one quarter of the pie, it is no wonder that they keep losing ground. But this is especially sad, considering what the polling reveals, i.e. that despite the efforts of the G.O.P. and their allies of the Religious Right, and the lethargy of the Democrats, the only religious group that actually favored the G.O.P. in the summer leading up to the 1996 elections was the "white evangelicals" and only by a surprisingly small margin at that! If only the Democratic Party had capitalized on this dramatic advantage, instead of ignoring it, the outcome of those elections might have been Democratic control of Congress, along with the Presidency!
Click here for more recent, and very interesting statistics which show what portion of the electorate votes largely on the basis of moral values, and how that vote effected the outcome of the first election of this millennium: "Values Voters" in the 2000 election.
Those who assume that the G.O.P. "owns" the Christian vote are simply mistaken. They may even be contributing to a self-fulfilling prophecy, by repelling Christians into the arms of the Republican Party. We "Liberals Like Christ" are trying to help our fellow Christians see that in America today the Democratic Party is much closer to the teaching of Jesus and the other great prophets of the Bible than is today's Republican Party.
Conservatives, however, dominate to various degrees most of the white Christian churches in America today. Even those that ARE sympathetic are so self-centered that they will do nothing to promote "Liberals Like Christ" because we do not promote their denomination. So if word is going to get out about "Liberals Like Christ", it will only happen if Liberals and Democrats like yourselves do it.
http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/liberals/index.htm
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Most people who say they are Christian look at it as a "religion" only and have never accepted Christ. I can see this group of the population voting liberal. A true Christian who has actually accepted Christ will most likely not vote for any candidate that favors abortion, homosexual marriage, separation of God from everything, etc...

Seeing as how the gates of heaven are narrow, as stated in the Bible, the libs probably have a pretty good chance of winning the former over.
I am a true Christian, I have accepted Christ as my Savior... but I have YET to see ANY elected official even come close to TRYING to change Roe vs. Wade!!!

They may SAY they will, but none ever do... so it is just lip service...

So what it amounts to is them LYING to get the Christian Vote, ... so which is worse? A sin is a sin....
LOL...I just wonder what bible these "Liberals like Jesus" are reading...Sure aint the one i read.

Wait...I found it! here is a verse

Hil 1:3

And the prophet Hillary said to them, go out and spread this word to only those who are not offended. Tell them to keep thy own self made commandments and do what feels good to them.
Thy God will surely understand that Man's reasoning is high above the Lords.
I am a true Christian, I have accepted Christ as my Savior... but I have YET to see ANY elected official even come close to TRYING to change Roe vs. Wade!!!

They may SAY they will, but none ever do... so it is just lip service...

So what it amounts to is them LYING to get the Christian Vote, ... so which is worse? A sin is a sin....
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Saying you are a Christian and actually being a Christian are two different things. At least one state has banned abortion, so you can't say nobody is trying to change Roe vs. Wade. Not sure if a politician even really has a say, looks like the Judges are actually in charge of making or changing the laws in America.
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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
I am a true Christian, I have accepted Christ as my Savior... but I have YET to see ANY elected official even come close to TRYING to change Roe vs. Wade!!!

They may SAY they will, but none ever do... so it is just lip service...

So what it amounts to is them LYING to get the Christian Vote, ... so which is worse? A sin is a sin....
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Saying you are a Christian and actually being a Christian are two different things. At least one state has banned abortion, so you can't say nobody is trying to change Roe vs. Wade. Not sure if a politician even really has a say, looks like the Judges are actually in charge of making or changing the laws in America.



What does the Bible say about liberal and Conservative? I don't think you will find conservative anywhere in the bible,but if you do let me know. I know liberal is in the bible and I would like for you to tell me what it says and mean.
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Saying you are a Christian and actually being a Christian are two different things. At least one state has banned abortion, so you can't say nobody is trying to change Roe vs. Wade. Not sure if a politician even really has a say, looks like the Judges are actually in charge of making or changing the laws in America.



Kindred - Just realized that the first sentence of my last post may sound like I was talking about you specifically. Not what I meant. I was talking about politicians who say they are Christians but act otherwise.
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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
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Saying you are a Christian and actually being a Christian are two different things. At least one state has banned abortion, so you can't say nobody is trying to change Roe vs. Wade. Not sure if a politician even really has a say, looks like the Judges are actually in charge of making or changing the laws in America.



Kindred - Just realized that the first sentence of my last post may sound like I was talking about you specifically. Not what I meant. I was talking about politicians who say they are Christians but act otherwise.



Thank you,and I didn't take you wrong at all and agree to what you were saying.
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What does the Bible say about liberal and Conservative? I don't think you will find conservative anywhere in the bible,but if you do let me know. I know liberal is in the bible and I would like for you to tell me what it says and mean.


I don't know if liberal is in the Bible, however, if it is the context of the word is most likely completely different than what it is today.

I don't believe that Jesus was a liberal by todays standard. Jesus came to this earth for everyones benefit, not just the poor, sick, and hungry. I also don't think he sees us as conservative or liberal, but rather as believers and non-believers. In the end after all the votes are tallied, laws made, wars fought, and money made, it's the latter group that is going to decide where you spend the rest of eternity.
Deacon Blue:

Ahem..... Jesus was a liberal? You mean he cared for the sick and poor and fed the hungry. Sounds like a communist to me. Dadgum hippy long haired freak! How dare him be in 180 degree conflict with real Americans. Heard he didn't own any guns either. What a pansy.
Time to do away with Jesus. Condolezza, honey, take this down.....

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Yes, he preached love, tolerance and peace. He told people to pray in secret and give to the poor. To love one another. Typical liberal, you saw what happened to him. They knew how to handle them back then.

And if he came back today he would say the same thing and you know what, they kill him again.
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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Saying you are a Christian and actually being a Christian are two different things. At least one state has banned abortion, so you can't say nobody is trying to change Roe vs. Wade. Not sure if a politician even really has a say, looks like the Judges are actually in charge of making or changing the laws in America.


I believe that the state you are referring to is South Dakota which passed a law which was signed by their Governor banning almost all abortions in 2006. However, a initiative challenging the law was placed in the ballot and was passed by the voters in Nov 2006.

What judges were involved there?

As for the seriously over-worked "activist judges" refrain, simply because a judge makes a ruling that you do not like does not make them an activist. No religious text, Bible or otherwise, should be used in a decision by a judge.
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Yes, he preached love, tolerance and peace. He told people to pray in secret and give to the poor. To love one another. Typical liberal, you saw what happened to him. They knew how to handle them back then.

And if he came back today he would say the same thing and you know what, they kill him again.


Quite possibly the dumbest thing you've said yet.

Jesus did not say pray in secret and giving to the poor, tolerance, and peace are not strictly liberal ideas. Liberals tend to be the least tolerant of religious people or those who do not agree with them. Besides, the real reason Jesus died was not because of what he said. Open a Bible and find out for yourself.
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Originally posted by Deacon Blue:
Ahem..... Jesus was a liberal? You mean he cared for the sick and poor and fed the hungry. Sounds like a communist to me. Dadgum hippy long haired freak! How dare him be in 180 degree conflict with real Americans. Heard he didn't own any guns either. What a pansy.
Time to do away with Jesus. Condolezza, honey, take this down.....


Just why do you think Jesus had long hair?
I have read the bible, which is why I say Jesus was a liberal. When he sees the rich man making a big show about going into the Temple and giving money he observes that the poor woman who didn't have much to give is sincere and the rich man is for show. He then states not to be like that but to go home and pray in secret and not to "let your left hand know what your right hand is doing." He then gives the "Lord's Pray" as a guide.

Jesus taught peace, tolerance, understanding and love. He told us not to judge and that the measure we use will be used against us. He opposed war and the profits made off religion. He tells the church leaders they know not God and that religion is to help people not to oppress them. They make a mockery of it, as they do today. He never established a church or asked for "dues."

The style at the time was short hair as we see in paintings and images of Rome and other images of the time. Jesus' long hair was a rebellious sign.

If he came back today the established religous leaders would condemn him, as they did back then. Same as they condemn anyone that follws his real teachings.
Many liberals are indeed Christians. That is a fact that is NOT subject you any of your personal scrutiny or judgements. We do not live in a theocracy, not all Republicans are "conservative", nor are they all Christians. The penchant of Pat Robertson followers to try and tell us how to vote, and how to think is causing the expected backlash. Mind your own religion and keep your opinion about mine to yourself. Its so cute.....using religion as a political tool.
I believe that the state you are referring to is South Dakota which passed a law which was signed by their Governor banning almost all abortions in 2006. However, a initiative challenging the law was placed in the ballot and was passed by the voters in Nov 2006.

What judges were involved there?

As for the seriously over-worked "activist judges" refrain, simply because a judge makes a ruling that you do not like does not make them an activist. No religious text, Bible or otherwise, should be used in a decision by a judge.
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Never used the phrase "activist judges" and I never said anything that sounded like sour grapes. Not sure why you would say that. It will take judges on the supreme court to overturn Roe vs. Wade.
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I have read the bible, which is why I say Jesus was a liberal. When he sees the rich man making a big show about going into the Temple and giving money he observes that the poor woman who didn't have much to give is sincere and the rich man is for show. He then states not to be like that but to go home and pray in secret and not to "let your left hand know what your right hand is doing." He then gives the "Lord's Pray" as a guide.

Jesus taught peace, tolerance, understanding and love. He told us not to judge and that the measure we use will be used against us. He opposed war and the profits made off religion. He tells the church leaders they know not God and that religion is to help people not to oppress them. They make a mockery of it, as they do today. He never established a church or asked for "dues."

The style at the time was short hair as we see in paintings and images of Rome and other images of the time. Jesus' long hair was a rebellious sign.

If he came back today the established religous leaders would condemn him, as they did back then. Same as they condemn anyone that follws his real teachings.


First of all, trying to determine if Jesus would be liberal or conservative is stupid. I don't think Jesus would be for gay marriage, abortion, or a welfare state. Just because someone helps the poor and is against war does not make them a liberal.

Also, no one know if Jesus had long hair or not, there are not any authentic portraits or photos of him. The Romans typically had short hair, but Jesus was not a Roman.

As for Jesus not asking for dues, he said to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and render unto God what is God's. The Bible teaches us to tithe and that doesn't mean just giving to a church.

Apparently you don't understand Christianity any better than you understand the present world we live in. Jesus would not have been either conservative nor liberal. He was simply Jesus.
Jesus preached peace, tolerance, love, charity and not to judge. He did not condemn the prostitute.

He never established a Church nor asked for money, He preached from the country side and cities. When he performed the miracle of the loaves and fishes to feed the multitudes who came to hear him he didn't say, "But who's going to pay for all this?"

He also said "Blessed are the peacmakers." He didn't say blessed are the armies and warriors.
In a previous post you state "I don't think Jesus would be for gay marriage, abortion, or a welfare state."

If you take the teachings of Jesus in context with the story you will see he is liberal speaking out against intolerance. He is for peace and charity and tells us not to judge. I use a few examples. These are liberal.
Intolerance is not liberal. Liberals are intolerant of Christians and those who do not agree with them. Jesus was not tolerant of sin. You fail again and this is really a dumb conversation. Jesus was neither conservative nor liberal and if he was alive today he would have issues with both sides. I'm done with this.
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Originally posted by NashBama:
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Yes, he preached love, tolerance and peace. He told people to pray in secret and give to the poor. To love one another. Typical liberal, you saw what happened to him. They knew how to handle them back then.

And if he came back today he would say the same thing and you know what, they kill him again.


Quite possibly the dumbest thing you've said yet.

Jesus did not say pray in secret and giving to the poor, tolerance, and peace are not strictly liberal ideas. Liberals tend to be the least tolerant of religious people or those who do not agree with them. Besides, the real reason Jesus died was not because of what he said. Open a Bible and find out for yourself.




Nash, I Think your right wing bible says take from the poor fools that watch us on the 700 club,and kneel by your tv set and pray with us and don't forget to mail in your money so GOD will answer your prayer.I don't need your right wing B.S. to talk to GOD!

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