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FBI Director James B. Comey said Clinton was “extremely careless” in how she treated classified information. And The Washington Post's nonpartisan fact-checking team gave her Four Pinocchios — their symbol for a “whopper” — for her original claim she sent or received none.

Also: The FBI felt there was enough in Clinton's email account to launch a criminal investigation into her treatment of classified information. (Of course, the result of that investigation was that they decided not to prosecute her for any kind of crime.) (We know why)

There is absolutely no investigation related to Pence, which brings us back to the original reason these two situations are fundamentally different: Using a private account if you're the governor of Indiana, where it's legal to do so and you're ostensibly dealing with much less-sensitive information, is much different than using a private email account exclusively to do work as secretary of state, who has  access to many if not most of the nation's top secrets.

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No proof Hillary’s servers were hacked?  That’s about the best joke I’ve heard in days. 

Sir Hillary’s servers were gang hacked by the Russians, Chinese, a Romanian farmer and numerous others. 

“The Romanian hacker who first exposed Hillary Clinton's private email address is making a bombshell new claim — that he also gained access to the former Secretary of State's "completely unsecured" server.

"It was like an open orchid on the Internet," Marcel Lehel Lazar, who uses the devilish handle Guccifer, told NBC News in an exclusive interview from a prison in Bucharest. "There were hundreds of folders."

Lazar was extradited last month from Romania to the United States to face charges he hacked political elites, including Gen. Colin Powell, a member of the Bush family, and former Clinton advisor Sidney Blumenthal.”

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us...ton-s-server-n568206

“FBI Sources: Clinton Server Hacked By 'At Least Five' Foreign Intel Agencies, Two Major Federal Probes Ongoing”

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...ation-probe-n2240856

Pence was guilty of being as inept as John Podesta, in that he fell for a phishing ploy to reveal his password.  Obviously, there was little of importance in his account as we’ve heard little from it.  Apparently, top secret emails from the National Geo-Spatial Intelligence Agency are a bit more important that emails from the governor of Indiana.  Indiana, for goodness sakes.  Besides, the large financial center for DoD in Indianapolis, what is of strategic importance in the state which mainly produces hogs and corn.  Hogs and corn, but they know nothing of barbeque, nor of making good whiskey.

 

 

There is no difference.  Smoke & mirrors by Republicans because they have ONCE AGAIN been caught with egg on their face.   Talk about a private email and how it is bad to conduct government business there.. then do it.   Talk about Obama and all the money his family had on taxpayers dime and in one month your new President is almost an 8th of the way to the total spent in 8 years.  Chastise homosexuals, get caught in public restrooms committing homosexual acts.  Complain about the common man not getting his fair share and being overrun by corporate greed, yet elect a man President whom has single handedly bankrupted and/or refused to pay small time contractors for agreed upon prices and fleeced hardworking people out of money with his bogus "Trump University."  Its pretty much the law of the universe, if Republicans complain about it, they'll end up doing it. 

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MonkeysUncleByMarriage posted:

There is no difference.  Smoke & mirrors by Republicans because they have ONCE AGAIN been caught with egg on their face.   Talk about a private email and how it is bad to conduct government business there.. then do it.   Talk about Obama and all the money his family had on taxpayers dime and in one month your new President is almost an 8th of the way to the total spent in 8 years.  Chastise homosexuals, get caught in public restrooms committing homosexual acts.  Complain about the common man not getting his fair share and being overrun by corporate greed, yet elect a man President whom has single handedly bankrupted and/or refused to pay small time contractors for agreed upon prices and fleeced hardworking people out of money with his bogus "Trump University."  Its pretty much the law of the universe, if Republicans complain about it, they'll end up doing it. 

Of course, there is a difference, in the seriousness of data exposed and those interested in such data.  A speeding ticket and murder are both crimes.  But, different as to severity.  Of about 2,000 business ventures, Trump claimed bankruptcy on about 4. Hillary had one private venture and went bankrupt on that.  Obama never ran a private business.  As to the contractors, please do a bit on research on the cases before posting en masse.  Its a bit different than the Democrats claim.

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Bears repeating-

There is absolutely no investigation related to Pence, which brings us back to the original reason these two situations are fundamentally different: Using a private account if you're the governor of Indiana, where it's legal to do so and you're ostensibly dealing with much less-sensitive information, is much different than using a private email account exclusively to do work as secretary of state, who has  access to many if not most of the nation's top secrets.

It was definitely legal for Pence to use it, just shows bad judgement.   It also needs to be said that most scholars and watchdog groups, whom have crushed Hillary have also stated that she may not have actually violated the law, but definitely the spirit of it.   In Hillary's case, it was a stupid decision as was Pences.  

The FBI still states it is unclear if Hillarys emails were hacked.  Certainly Dire has posted that they were, and that this Guccifer has a bombshell to drop.   We will see.   It is however very obvious that Pences emails were hacked.  

Both Pence and Hillary have pointed to the fact that their predecessors also used private email accounts.  So this is nothing new, not with Pence and not with Hillary.  

 And it is easy to say that , oh he was just a Governor of Indiana (as Best so ignorantly put it earlier).  Governors are still privy to some pretty sensitive information.   As in one of his hacked emails he did speak of an FBI arrest of a terror suspect in Indiana.   This news story was already public, but since his emails were partially blacked out when handed over the Indianapolis Star, who knows what it all said?   It isn't like Mike Pence has ever really been transparent about anything.  

If we are on a scale of 1 to 10 how bad it is that their emails were on a private server?  I'd give Hillary a 10 and Pence about a 6 to 6.5.   

On a scale of how bad their judgement was?  Hillary 10, Pence 10.

On a scale of hypocrisy and grandstanding?  Pence 5000.

direstraits posted:
MonkeysUncleByMarriage posted:

There is no difference.  Smoke & mirrors by Republicans because they have ONCE AGAIN been caught with egg on their face.   Talk about a private email and how it is bad to conduct government business there.. then do it.   Talk about Obama and all the money his family had on taxpayers dime and in one month your new President is almost an 8th of the way to the total spent in 8 years.  Chastise homosexuals, get caught in public restrooms committing homosexual acts.  Complain about the common man not getting his fair share and being overrun by corporate greed, yet elect a man President whom has single handedly bankrupted and/or refused to pay small time contractors for agreed upon prices and fleeced hardworking people out of money with his bogus "Trump University."  Its pretty much the law of the universe, if Republicans complain about it, they'll end up doing it. 

Of course, there is a difference, in the seriousness of data exposed and those interested in such data.  A speeding ticket and murder are both crimes.  But, different as to severity.  Of about 2,000 business ventures, Trump claimed bankruptcy on about 4. Hillary had one private venture and went bankrupt on that.  Obama never ran a private business.  As to the contractors, please do a bit on research on the cases before posting en masse.  Its a bit different than the Democrats claim.

How about you do a little google research yourself on the contractors claim...

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...t-laswuits/85297274/

MonkeysUncleByMarriage posted:
direstraits posted:
MonkeysUncleByMarriage posted:

There is no difference.  Smoke & mirrors by Republicans because they have ONCE AGAIN been caught with egg on their face.   Talk about a private email and how it is bad to conduct government business there.. then do it.   Talk about Obama and all the money his family had on taxpayers dime and in one month your new President is almost an 8th of the way to the total spent in 8 years.  Chastise homosexuals, get caught in public restrooms committing homosexual acts.  Complain about the common man not getting his fair share and being overrun by corporate greed, yet elect a man President whom has single handedly bankrupted and/or refused to pay small time contractors for agreed upon prices and fleeced hardworking people out of money with his bogus "Trump University."  Its pretty much the law of the universe, if Republicans complain about it, they'll end up doing it. 

Of course, there is a difference, in the seriousness of data exposed and those interested in such data.  A speeding ticket and murder are both crimes.  But, different as to severity.  Of about 2,000 business ventures, Trump claimed bankruptcy on about 4. Hillary had one private venture and went bankrupt on that.  Obama never ran a private business.  As to the contractors, please do a bit on research on the cases before posting en masse.  Its a bit different than the Democrats claim.

How about you do a little google research yourself on the contractors claim...

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...t-laswuits/85297274/

I've done so. If, one checked out the 3,600 lawsuits, one would find most were for persons claiming they were injured on Trump property -- slipped on the casino floor, etc.  Less than 100 were for claims of non-payment. Most of those were from subcontractors, who were not fully paid by the contractor. Trump paid the contractor, who defaulted on their subcontractors.

dire makes wild claims and backs them up with editorial posts and unfounded sources.. then, chastises anyone who uses a source not to his satisfaction.

now, he's taken to deflecting from the question and making excuses for a party and president who's actions would have him in a mental hospital if they were only democrats. we only have 3 years and 10 months to go. this is gonna be one more **** show.

Crash.Override posted:

dire makes wild claims and backs them up with editorial posts and unfounded sources.. then, chastises anyone who uses a source not to his satisfaction.

now, he's taken to deflecting from the question and making excuses for a party and president who's actions would have him in a mental hospital if they were only democrats. we only have 3 years and 10 months to go. this is gonna be one more **** show.

Yes, then the next four Trump years.

direstraits posted:
Crash.Override posted:

dire makes wild claims and backs them up with editorial posts and unfounded sources.. then, chastises anyone who uses a source not to his satisfaction.

now, he's taken to deflecting from the question and making excuses for a party and president who's actions would have him in a mental hospital if they were only democrats. we only have 3 years and 10 months to go. this is gonna be one more **** show.

Yes, then the next four Trump years.

I assume you mean the Apprentice reboot in four years when Donald is free again?

Crash.Override posted:

dire makes wild claims and backs them up with editorial posts and unfounded sources.. then, chastises anyone who uses a source not to his satisfaction.

now, he's taken to deflecting from the question and making excuses for a party and president who's actions would have him in a mental hospital if they were only democrats. we only have 3 years and 10 months to go. this is gonna be one more **** show.

If Crash read what I posted, he would realize that the articles are a combination of journalist's articles and editorials -- the editorials contain links to the sourced information.  As to contract law suits, Crash appears to be quoting left wing articles as to the law suits.  I simply suggested he research beyond the numbers to learn a bit of the background. 

direstraits posted:
Crash.Override posted:

dire makes wild claims and backs them up with editorial posts and unfounded sources.. then, chastises anyone who uses a source not to his satisfaction.

now, he's taken to deflecting from the question and making excuses for a party and president who's actions would have him in a mental hospital if they were only democrats. we only have 3 years and 10 months to go. this is gonna be one more **** show.

If Crash read what I posted, he would realize that the articles are a combination of journalist's articles and editorials -- the editorials contain links to the sourced information.  As to contract law suits, Crash appears to be quoting left wing articles as to the law suits.  I simply suggested he research beyond the numbers to learn a bit of the background. 

i quoted no articles and mentioned no lawsuits... in other words, what are you even talking about? i simply stated you used editorials for your facts.. which you clearly admitted.

don't you ever get tired of having to be corrected?

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