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Originally Posted by disolve:

so this Bill Gray character is a baptist preacher. Where does he preach at? Anyone know? I don't post much for the sake of not arguing with someone looking to pick a fight, but I'd love to attend his pulpit and let his fellow parishioners know of his ideologies and good christian behavior towards others. At least to see him squirm if nothing else.

 

As for wooly, his avatars have caught my attention several times which is good for his cause. It got his posts read. But I don't see that he should be banned for the pure hatred and disagreement of the likes of one Mr. Bill Gray.

 

 

You don't post much? Guess not. This is your first post. Just think, been registered three years and only now has Bill made you mad enough to post.

Originally Posted by Infomercial:
Originally Posted by disolve:
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

I reported Bill right before I started this topic, which was what gave me the idea for the topic in the first place.

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Keep your fingers crossed, as that one may have just done it. Won't be very hard to find any other alias names/IP links with him being out of Cali...

 

 

disolve, you made your first post five hrs ago and you already want someone banned? Quick judge of character?

 

Sorry, disolve, 14 hours ago.

Originally Posted by Infomercial:

disolve, you made your first post five hrs ago and you already want someone banned? Quick judge of character?

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Far from it 'Infomercial'. Just because I don't post often doesn't mean I'm dumb to the forums nor haven't been keeping up in one way or another. I *NEVER* said i wanted anyone banned. Just commented that someone might have got the action completed. Some of you guys really do let your imaginations run wild on here and transform simple posts into overinflated ego boosts that they think they say something that they don't. Quick judge of character....nah, but only if you say so. <bows down to the holier than thou>

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FWIW,

Bill is from California. Easy to check. He has never made another screen name, he likes to be himself. I never agree with him but have never found him to lie about anything. He does rub people the wrong way, but everyone does when they are zealous on a topic.

 

The only reason for banning someone should be harassment and threats.

Originally Posted by b50m:

FWIW,

I never agree with him but have never found him to lie about anything. The only reason for banning someone should be harassment and threats.

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Unless you know Bill on a personal level, how do you know he wouldn't lie? And since you don't know me, how would you know that I would lie? Is it because he claims to be a Christian & I'm not?

 

I agree with your reason for banning someone.

I didn't say you did lie, I said after being on the forums for a lot of years, I have never seen Bill lie. It has nothing to do with religion.

 

I know I have been accused of things I didn't do because a third party set me up. Now that made me and another person both seem like we were lying when we both were telling the truth even though we assumed the other lied.

 

As for the TVT, I doubt they actually listen to anything we say.

I've seen bill lie. Many times. What do you call a lie? He lied about me a few times by stating I did something I most certainly did not do, he lied about obama just a few threads back. Not only has he lied but his "insinuations" are as much as lies although he likes to think he's so clever that he's "sneaking that one in".

I know he can stretch a scripture and he loves to aggravate atheists, but as far as something to do with his family or with the TD site, I have not seen a lie from him. As I said above, what seems like a lie to one may be twisted by a third party. Why would Bill  try to kick Semi off, he loves to have an audience too much. As he said, he did not report DF for the cursing, I think one of the groups who didn't like DF then did.

 

I don't know what he accused you off, I'm just skimming the forums lately. If Semi has proof, she can go to the TVT.

 

I think all of it should have been in private, including the wooly threads. Saying 'I have a dirty picture of your wife' was really stupid of him. Bill has posted pics of him and his wife a few times before, so I think we would all know what they look like.

 

Forums have anonymity for a good reason, it should stay that way.

 Saying 'I have a dirty picture of your wife'

 

 

Where did he say he had a dirty picture of bill's wife? And again, insinuating something about a person, or lying outright about them is not "aggravating". BTW B, bill doesn't aggravate anyone. He does attack, such as he's done to skippy ever since the first day I saw him, constantly belittling his religion, but attacking is just that, an attack, not an aggravation.

It was in the thread taken down. If i remember, Wooly was yelling (all caps) saying someone had sent him a picture of Bill's wife with a dirty caption under it or something like that. Can't remember exactly.

 

Oh I know Bill calls the Mormons a cult, (So does betternu/contendah), Catholics a cult, JW a cult, New Age a cult, etc......

 

And I'm going to Hell. So what? I don't believe the old guy, he's passionate about his religion and he comes across like a buzz saw.

 

Atheists have called me a bad mom, delusional, believing in fairies, irrational, uneducated, backwards, uncaring, brainwashed, etc....

 

And I don't believe them either.

 

It's just a bunch of words on a computer screen that every one forgets the next day.

 

As DF would say, Feh.

b50m, I read that and can't remember either but he said someone sent it to him and said it was Bill's wife. I don't agree with most anything Bill teaches, but I don't think he lies. I would definitely like to know why anyone thinks he has some inside contacts at the Times Daily. I can't imagine why anyone would send a picture of Bill's wife to Dwight in Cherokee. Bill thinks he can eventually convert the atheists so I don't know why he would try to get semi banned. She said she had confidential information. But is she does she should know that Bill doesn't have any real contacts at the paper. It seems like it would work both ways.

It was in the thread taken down. If i remember, Wooly was yelling (all caps) saying someone had sent him a picture of Bill's wife with a dirty caption under it or something like that. Can't remember exactly.

 

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I remember that post about the picture. He said it was a "not nice" picture and on and on. I don't remember the "nasty" part. And "sugapush" bill definately has lied about me. Bill has no desire to convert the atheists. He is playing preacher and all he wants to do is belittle and attack atheists and anyone else that doesn't believe the way he does. He can insinuate or say anything he wants about others but let anyone ask him a question and he calls it an attack. And once more, semi is under no obligation to tell you or anyone else any of her business.

B-I found the post from wooly to bill:

 

quote:

Originally Posted by WoolyBugger:

bILL, i HAVE a picture for you but I dont want to put it here on the public forum, please start a private dialog with me and I will send it to you. If it is who I think it is , you may want to contact the site and demand they drop it or sue them. Then again it might not be your wife.

 

BILL! I AM SERIOUS ABOUT THE PICTURE< I WAS TOLD IT WAS YOUR WIFE AND IT HAS A CAPTION WRITTEN ON IT> THE CAPTION IS NOT NICE AT ALL> I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOUR WIFE>IF IT WAS MY WIFE I WOULD WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT SO I COULD TAKE STEPS TO HAVE IT REMOVED> DO A DIOLOG< I WILL PROVE I AM NOT LYING< I WILL NOT TELL YOU WHO SENT IT> YOU WILL WANT TO CONTACT THE SIGHT IF IT IS YOUR WIFE> I DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR WIFE LOOKS LIKE. AND I DONT KNOW IF IT IS HER BUT I WAS TOLD IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

NOW, BEFORE YOU GET ME KICKED OUT BECAUSE YOU MISSUNDERSTOOD MY OTHER POST TO YOU, I ASK YOU TO FORWARD THIS ONE TO THE MODS TOO.

Originally Posted by b50m:

Why would Bill  try to kick Semi off, he loves to have an audience too much. As he said, he did not report DF for the cursing, I think one of the groups who didn't like DF then did.

 

If Semi has proof, she can go to the TVT.

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b, I like you, enjoy reading your post & some of them make me laugh, in a feel good way.

Bill himself, several months ago, made the comment that if I didn't behave myself he would have to report me to the mods. He made it sound like a joke but I don't think it was. I've tried to find it but it must be in some of the topics that were deleted when the new format started. Word came to me from a strong source that Bill had recently reported me & I trust this source to know that their info is correct.

I don't care who believes me. I know the truth & so does Bill.

You say if I have proof, I can go to the TVT. If you're talking about the post I reported of Bill accusing Wooley of being a Pedophile, the proof was in the post.

If you're talking about him trying to get me banned, the proof is already there, though I don't know what good that would do. Threatening to get someone banned is not against TD forum rules.

 

Bill does love his audience but he does not like his Bible knowledge being questioned again & again. I've given him scripture over & over, as have others, that's blows his Once Saved, Always Saved theory right out of the window. Those scriptures or questions related to the scripture causes him to run the other way, he will not answer. Bill doesn't like it because I have told him I do not believe he is a Christian. He can tell any of us here we're going to Hell, but no one is supposed to give it back to him.

Bill will take someones words & twist them to be something entirely different. He's done it to several of us many times. Is that not the same as telling a lie about someone? I've shown him proof of words he twisted, but then he runs away & won't answer or makes a comment about "all the children playing in the sandbox".

 

I think I recently read where Bill did say he reported DF one time, for using the F word in a post he made to him. I'll see if I can find it.

Semi,

If you have a source you trust, then that's fine. I don't remember Bill telling you to behave, now that sounds more like a buffalo to me. Bill twists things, but in his mind, he is not twisting them.  All of us have gone round and round. If Bill believes his version, then he is not lying. I don't think he wants any one kicked off, but he might.

 

As for the DF thing, no, Bill did not report it. He reported Gofish.

 

Now, I'm fighting a flu bug, so I will leave it up to you and Best. You have it covered.

 

Later.

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

       
Originally Posted by b50m:
Now, I'm fighting a flu bug,
Later.
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Sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better soon.


Ditto that b. Use your hand sanitizer and take garlic tabs daily. I haven't had a cold or the flu in almost 8 years and I have contact with the public on a daily basis. I must be doing something right. Get well soon.

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