Why Should Someone be Banned?

I don't know what he could have said that he hasn't already said.  Oh well, as I stated, no rhyme or reason.

The only reason I could see for reporting someone is if they made personal threats against another user or tried to expose their real name and negatively impact their re****tion/work. Otherwise cursing, name calling, thumbing your nose at someone in a picture etc...is easily ignored. Why try and censor people? Are there those that come here that are so sheltered and out of touch with the big bad world that a curse word or two actually hurts them?

 

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He used some colorful language while admonishing Bill for saying that Contendah was an atheist, just because Contendah had a different opinion on some scripture.

Must have been very colorful. Since this filter on this thing bleeps out all the good words, I would like to know how he did it.

 

 

You have posted this often, "I've seen Bill lie before & when you show him the proof of that lie, he won't answer to it" -- but, when asked for proof -- you are silent.   If you have proof -- show us.

 

Then, you tell me, "but he does insist on being correct."

 

I believe that you will find that I often write that the BIBLE is correct -- not Bill Gray.  I firmly believe when "God says it, I believe it!"   But, since you do not believe God nor His Bible -- to you that is Bill Gray declaring it to be true.  No, my Friend, when I quote the Bible -- the Bible is God declaring it to be true.

 

And, you falsely tell people, " I think Bill's other ID is The Fireman."

 

There is one reason that cannot be true.  Romans 1:16, "For I am not ashamed of the Gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek."

 

Since I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ -- it would be an insult to His name for me to post under false or multiple names when sharing His Gospel.  Therefore, I can say in all honesty, before my Lord Jesus Christ -- I have NEVER used any posting name except Bill Gray, my real name -- given to me when I was born in Tuscumbia, Alabama.

 

Even, when I first came on the TD Forums and the Mod told me I should not use my own name -- I told him that I had to do that -- for I am sharing God's Word.  And, in sharing God's Word I must be up front and honest.

 

To put your mind at ease -- there is only one Bill Gray.  No pseudonyms, no false or alternate names -- not even during the one week that Fish had me banned several years ago.

 

So, no, The Fireman is not me; nor is anyone else.  Although I do know the names of a few of the conservative Christians on the Religion Forum (several are on my Friends Ministry mail list -- and I would love to add anyone else who is interested -- just PM me); I do not know the identity of Fireman nor any other Christians who post.  

 

I will say this -- I wish more conservative Christians would break one habit -- that of being too passive -- and begin to post on the Religion Forum.   That is the one complaint I have long had with conservative Christians -- their reluctance to speak up and defend our faith in public.   To those who do, I offer a big "Atta boy!" or "Atta girl!" for your efforts in sharing the Gospel with others -- and for your efforts in refuting false and cult teachings.

 

Chick I pray this clears the air on these issues -- and, I sincerely pray that you and I can be Friends.  Do you really have any reason we cannot be Friends?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

I didn't know Uno was banned. I thought he was out skiing and thumbing his nose at the po' folks. That's where you insert your smiley face! I must have missed what he said.

 

Hey, semi, who does Joy remind you of? You don't have to answer, but I've truly never thought she reminded me of anyone else, although I've had some accuse me of being her. She's much more tactful! Not to mention 12 years younger.

 

As for Bill, yes, I think he really believes the things he says--like about Snopes being wrong on Obama. Pulease!

And, you falsely tell people, " I think Bill's other ID is The Fireman."

 

 

 

How is that false if it is what she thinks? I think that too.

Bill, I see you posted while I was typing. I don't think using a screen name is being ashamed. I think it would have kept Wooly from doing what he did. If Wooly was really concerned, he would  have contacted you in private. His actions may not have proved he's evil, but it did prove him to be childish. I can debate anyone on here without bringing their family into it.

   And I'd like to know what unobtanium did to get banned.




When did that happen?






I didn't realize he was banned. I had however noticed he hadn't been around for a little while.

 

What you choose to believe -- and the truth -- are often separated by a very wide chasm.  I say it is false for two reasons:  (1) Because I have no other posting names, and (2) Even if I did -- there is NO WAY either you or Chick could know this to be true.

 

But, once again, to set your mind at peace -- "For I am not ashamed of the Gospel, for it is the power of salvation to EVERYONE who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek [another way of saying Gentiles, which includes you and me]"  (Romans 1:16). 

 

For this reason, I cannot use a pseudonym while sharing the Gospel.  For others it may not bother them.  But, for me -- it would bother me very much if I hid behind a pseudonym while sharing the Gospel of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.   He did not hide while hanging on the cross for me.  Why should I hide while sharing His Gospel with the world?   Doesn't make sense to me.  Therefore, you are stuck with only Bill Gray -- the man who loves the Gospel to much to hide from it.

 

Thank you for giving me this opportunity to explain this to our Forum Friends.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

What you choose to believe -- and the truth -- are often separated by a very wide chasm. I say it is false for two reasons: (1) Because I have no other posting names, and (2) Even if I did -- there is NO WAY either you or Chick could know this to be true.

 

 

No bill, won't work. You said semi was falsely telling people what she thought. Then you turn to me. How about you bill, when you accused ME of having another id based on the number of posts under my name? How about after I said I had only one id and then explained to you that anyway the post counts of two ids wouldn't go under one name.  You didn't bother to correct your "mistake" did you. Chick didn't say true in her statement, I didn't say true. She said she thought it and I agreed.

 

Even, when I first came on the TD Forums and the Mod told me I should not use my own name -- I told him that I had to do that -- for I am sharing God's Word. And, in sharing God's Word I must be up front and honest.

 

 

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Yes they wisely told you not to use your real name but you foolishly thought you knew so much more than they. Now they and us get to watch you whine when someone mentions something that YOU yourself posted in here.

       

Unobtanium In Your Head

Weird. Looks like he figured out how to change his user title to "In Your Head". Cool. I'll have to see if I can figure out how to do that now. I've never seen a control for changing it anywhere in the control center.

BTW, I didn't talk to a mod when I registered and wonder how they'd know who is or isn't using a real name. 

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The part I italicized and bolded is interesting.  I have met very few "conservative Christians" (I mean this as what your definition is, apparently, and not Christians in general since I assume you mean those who feel as you do) who were too passive, or even passive at all.  The ones who "speak up and defend our faith in public", "share the Gospel with others" and make "efforts in refuting false and cult teachings" often steamroll others' beliefs and turn people off to religion.

 

I think the "one complaint" many people have is that some very vocal conservative Christians are so busy telling everyone else how to live and quoting Scripture, making fun of others' beliefs and belittling them while insisting their way is the only one, and making very passive-aggressive statements and then couching them in pretend friendliness, that they don't respect boundaries or hear anything anyone else says without the filter of, "I am right, you are wrong, and I must save you from Hell even if you already heard me and you said no thanks".    

 

Note please, that I am NOT saying all Christians do this.  I am just saying that being sincere in your agendas and honest in your friendships and life, honoring other people's beliefs, and treating people with respect might convince more people to follow Christianity than the behaviors I listed above.  Perhaps the other conservative Christians you refer to are living their faith and don't feel a need to intrude upon others' private beliefs, laugh at them, insinuate things about them, or aggressively prove every point wrong?  Just a thought and my own opinion.

Not sure but I think that "in your head" was listed as his location.

        Not sure but I think that "in your head" was listed as his location.





Ok duh! I see that now. LOL

 

Nor did I speak on the telephone with the TD Mod.  In the beginning (how's that for sneaking the Bible into the discussion?) -- when I first began to post -- I had a signature on all my post which shared a lot of information, including my e-mail address.   I wanted anyone who was interested to be able to contact me directly.   The Mod questions this and I removed a lot of the personal info -- but, insisted upon using my real name.  The Mod and I did this via PMs.

 

I did speak on the telephone with Elizabeth in the early days when she was helping me solve the problem of not being able to post a new discussion and not being able to edit a post.   I also talked with her the time that Fish got me banned for a week -- just for clarification.

 

By the way, the TD Mod also commented that he had never seen me be argumentative nor nasty with other members -- even when they became nasty with me.  I have tried to maintain that position -- although I will admit to occasionally getting a wee bit testy at times.

 

But, those are the "facts, and nothing but the facts, ma'am" (as Sgt Joe Friday used to say on Dragnet [before your time]).

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

By the way, the TD Mod also commented that he had never seen me be argumentative nor nasty with other members -- even when they became nasty with me. I have tried to maintain that position -- although I will admit to occasionally getting a wee bit testy at times.

 

 

I can only say the "mod" didn't read far enough to get to the "do you have something you want to tell us" posts.