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Originally posted by Ubermensch:
Anyone who looks at this post and the link I provided objectively can clearly see it is blatant plagiarism. The two links he provided were used in the backup the original article. He did not provide a link to the original article and expanded on it with no clear distinction between his own thoughts and the ones he plagiarized.

In addition this guy is spamming the forums with every left wing article he can get his hand on and people are a little sick of it.

I think these are two pretty very obvious important things to point out.


Dude you are so full of it and I'am getting alittle sick of you accuseing me!
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Originally posted by elijah495:
Uber has a long history of relying on the axiom.."The best defense is a good offense"...he attacks because there is no depth in his discussions...he may not disagree with you at all...he just has nothing constructive to add..


Thanks for pointing that out about Uber,make sure you check out everything he posts. He might be spamming the forums with every right wing article he can get his hand on to fool people to think like the right wing!
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Originally posted by alacharger:
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Uber, I don't have time right now to look at that, but I will as soon as I get home... I HATE PLAGIARIZING!!!!

If one is going to do that, then give the person who wrote it the CREDIT... by the way, isn't plagiarizing illegal???



Although unethical, and with this particular poster, nauseating, I believe it's only plagarism if it's for profit.[/QUOTE]

How to respond to the charge of Plagerism? Its a sticky problem.
Let me try, by quoting Kr King on a totally off topic subject of historical interest. "I fear I am integrating my people into a burning building."

That is a plagerism. I am not quoting Dr King, I am Quoting Rev. Farrakahn, who was quoting Harry Belefonte, who, according to Farrakahn was quoting Dr. King from a private conversation.
By Claiming I am quoting Dr King, I am plagerizing Rev Farrakahn. He was not plagerizing, he QUOTED Mr. Belefonte. properly written it would say, Rev. Farrakahn says Harry Belefonte told him that Dr. King said, "I fear that I am integrating my people into a burning building."
Plagerism is using someone else's work in a way that makes it seem to be your own. Cut and paste, without identification of the author is plagerism. I DON'T THINK THIS POST WAS THAT AT ALL.
Now to the issue of who thinks who is stupid.
It is not stupidity the GOP is depending on for its control of public opinion, it is ignorance. The GOP tries very hard to control the flow of information. So de the Democrats. It can be VERY HARD to show, demonstrate, or otherwise prove that the world is not flat. If, like Copernicus, you do the work to demonstrate the spherical earth, someone burns you at the stake for saying it, YOU LOOSE ALL CREDIBILITY. If the government claims Tax Revenues are at their highest level in history, and you attempt to prove otherwise, and (in my estimation) prove your position, you can be metaphorically burned at the stake for saying what you proved.
The Plagerism charge, true or not, does not alter the facts presented, and do not disprove the truth of the criticism that was made. CORPORATE PROFITS ARE UP 45% AND WAGES ARE UP 3% AND TAX REVENUES REFLECT THAT. Good, corporations that are taking more of our hard earned money in the form of their private taxation, called profit, are giving a portion to the government that ALLOWS them to increase their wages by 45% while our wages increas 3%, not adjusted for inflation. And Tax Revenues are up, also not adjusted for inflation, or population increase, or the alternate minimum tax.
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Originally posted by jptorisky:
The title of this forum should read, "Why the GOVERNMENT Thinks You're Stupid". Both parties are guilty of bending the truth. I am so sick of listening to everyone who tries to prove Bush is a liar. I have yet to see one honest politician on either side of the political fence. There is no doubt that some of the policies of the Whitehouse have not been as successful as planned, but at the same time there have been some policies that have worked out really well.

The only way to right this country's ship is to get back to family values. The people of this country have it so good they believe all this garbage about how bad of shape we are in. Every citizen is given the tools to succeed here through our education system. So what if not everyone has a chance to be President, that doesn't mean you can 't be successful. It's time for us to stop whining and take the initiative to become more responsible citizens.

For some that might mean to buy health insurance instead of a new car you don't need. For others to not procreate if you do not have the means. For others to put away some of your money so you can retire without worrying about social security. The reason we are the greatest country is because our founding fathers and previous generations had to suffer to reach their goals. We don't even have the faintest clue about what they went through.

So please quit blaming government and take a look in the mirror. Despite government we still have more than any other country in the world.


Yup, you are in the 1/3 who thinks it is all garbage, I just bet you that on a huge forum if you said that, you would be run off...

It is NOT garbage!!! It is FACT,

You think dubbya is RIGHT when he chooses to ignore the law? You think he is right in taking away your freedoms???

Wow... I just do not get how some people can put on those blinder.... UNLESSSSSSS they are one of the elite, the rich, the 'untouchables'...

Mad Mad Mad Mad
Yup, you are in the 1/3 who thinks it is all garbage, I just bet you that on a huge forum if you said that, you would be run off...

It is NOT garbage!!! It is FACT,

You think dubbya is RIGHT when he chooses to ignore the law? You think he is right in taking away your freedoms???

Wow... I just do not get how some people can put on those blinder.... UNLESSSSSSS they are one of the elite, the rich, the 'untouchables'...

Mad Mad Mad Mad
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My freedoms have not been encroached upon. If anything my freedoms have been saved through the sacrifices that our great military has made since 9/11. I guess that by taking responsiblity for myself and not relying on government to hold my hand I am not affected like some of the weaker SPIRITS in this country.

Why don't you just admit that whatever Bush says or does you are for the opposite view. This is America's problem. Instead of disagreeing and debating we hold grudges about a so called stolen election and act like three year olds who don't get their way
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by jptorisky:
The title of this forum should read, "Why the GOVERNMENT Thinks You're Stupid". Both parties are guilty of bending the truth. I am so sick of listening to everyone who tries to prove Bush is a liar. I have yet to see one honest politician on either side of the political fence. There is no doubt that some of the policies of the Whitehouse have not been as successful as planned, but at the same time there have been some policies that have worked out really well.

The only way to right this country's ship is to get back to family values. The people of this country have it so good they believe all this garbage about how bad of shape we are in. Every citizen is given the tools to succeed here through our education system. So what if not everyone has a chance to be President, that doesn't mean you can 't be successful. It's time for us to stop whining and take the initiative to become more responsible citizens.

For some that might mean to buy health insurance instead of a new car you don't need. For others to not procreate if you do not have the means. For others to put away some of your money so you can retire without worrying about social security. The reason we are the greatest country is because our founding fathers and previous generations had to suffer to reach their goals. We don't even have the faintest clue about what they went through.

So please quit blaming government and take a look in the mirror. Despite government we still have more than any other country in the world.


Yup, you are in the 1/3 who thinks it is all garbage, I just bet you that on a huge forum if you said that, you would be run off...

It is NOT garbage!!! It is FACT,

You think dubbya is RIGHT when he chooses to ignore the law? You think he is right in taking away your freedoms???

Wow... I just do not get how some people can put on those blinder.... UNLESSSSSSS they are one of the elite, the rich, the 'untouchables'...

Mad Mad Mad Mad


AMEN!

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