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First of all, why is his old ugly wrinkled **** even looking? Secondly, the thoughts of him having sex is enough to make someone puke. BTW, he and his sweety pants had sex outside of marriage.

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Earlier this summer, Pat Robertson publicly lamented that Facebook lacked a "Vomit" button, which he would gladly click to show his displeasure with pictures of gay couples displayed on the social media site.

Instances like that have become synonymous with America's religious right. In fact, when a Christian-identified organization isn't anti-gay, the story instantly becomes newsworthy.

Still, there are plenty of self-identifying Christians in the U.S., men and women who attend church services and devoutly read the Bible, who don't tow that party line at all—they're just not often given a voice.

But Dan Savage, creator of the "It Gets Better" campaign, launched another just week, this time named, The Not All Like That Christians Project, or NALT.

Seemingly inspired by an episode of Savage's own TakePart TV show, American Savage, the project invites Christians who support LGBT rights to film themselves offering messages of hope to the gay and trans community.

The content of the videos drives home the tenets of pro-LGBT Christians, who firmly believe that there's nothing inherently sinful or anti-biblical about being gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender.

More than 40 videos have been uploaded already, with more expected soon. Below are just a few of the highlights from that series.

 

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Hi Jennifer Best,

 

Pick any, ANY, Biblical Christian issue -- and you will always find some who "wear the Christian hat" who will disagree with what the Bible teaches.

 

So, should we Christians follow the secular society's interpretation of God's Word?  Or should we truly follow God's Written Word?

 

A Christian believer will ALWAYS follow God's Word without trying to find loop holes around what God has written.

 

But, there will always be those, and many sincere Christians fall into this trap -- who do not believe the Bible is truly the Holy Spirit inspired, Holy Spirit inerrant, literal Written Word of God.  To them, the Bible is just a good guideline, a book of metaphorical and mythical stories for teaching us about God and the Christian life -- but, it should not be read literally.

 

Why do they take this metaphorical, mythical view of the Bible?  Because then, they can justify ANY interpretation they want which allows them to fit into society's mold -- instead of following in Christ's footsteps.

 

My Friend, all you have found is a nest of ultra-liberals who want to bend God to fit into society's mold -- instead of adapting society to fit into God's mold.   Personally, I will stay with God on those issues.

 

I find this Scripture verse to be a good spiritual and moral compass:

 

Joshua 24:15, If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Somebody please explain to me about this gay thing.  A basketball player comes out of the closet and people brags on him, he is told, we're so proud of you.  A professional football player tweets," I don't get it, with so many good looking gals around, why would a guy want to be with another guy".  He got blasted because of that statement.  Why is it so good to be ***** and such a bad thing to be straight?

 

Jt,

 

I believe it is because "coming out" takes a lot of courage, especially when you are a professional sports athlete. There was a time when such a revelation would have gotten the basketball player arrested at the very least, most assuredly ostracized, kicked off the team, and possible physically assaulted. Every time a high profile person comes out it helps those that are not famous come out and be free of hiding. Its a good example for young people who are living with a secret to see that they too can speak up and be themselves. With so many young people committing suicide because they feel trapped in the closet, someone like the basketball player coming forward and speaking out really gives them hope and courage. 

 

I look forward to the day when no one cares. When someones sexual orientation is a non issue. We are getting there.

 

The football players statement was not all that bad to me. He just seems ignorant of what being homosexual is all about. It doesn't matter how many beautiful women are available to a gay male athlete. He is not interested. 

Hi Jan,

 

I agree with you that too much is made of a person being gay.   But, in a sense, that is happening because of such gross displays as the Gay Pride Parades and other such overt disgraceful sexual displays in public by many in the gay communities. 

 

But, my biggest problem with the gay community is its efforts to influence children, starting in Kindergarten, into their aberrant lifestyle.  If a person is gay, let him/her be gay -- but, stay away from our children.

 

And, if anyone claims that the gay community is not going after our children in public schools -- then you are living in a dream world.

 

What people do in the privacy of their homes -- should be their business and should stay in their homes.  For anyone to take openly, overt sexual acts into the public domain -- gay or straight -- is gross and demands condemnation.  That is the gist of the Gay Pride Parades and that is why I find them disgusting and extremely distasteful -- and would like to see them banned.

 

But, instead of banning them during the Obama kingship -- he most likely will be seen riding in the parades as their Master of Ceremony.

 

And, I agree with JT that the praise and attention given to a gay celebrity who comes out is out of proportion.  When a gay celebrity comes out -- all the Liberal media jumps up and down with joy.  But, let a celebrity come out and declare his/her Christian faith -- and very likely he/she will be ostracized and ridiculed.  Our society is way out of balance.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Somebody please explain to me about this gay thing.  A basketball player comes out of the closet and people brags on him, he is told, we're so proud of you.  A professional football player tweets," I don't get it, with so many good looking gals around, why would a guy want to be with another guy".  He got blasted because of that statement.  Why is it so good to be ***** and such a bad thing to be straight?

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Jt, explain something to me. It's clear where your political loyalties lie, same as contendah's and other libs here, yet you, he, and plenty of other people on the left have as much disdain for homosexuals as any one on the right opposed to it might have. Now my question, why is that little fact never mentioned or discussed? It's always the "right" that takes heat for it. It's the same story as using religion. The left does it way more than the right, but the right are the only ones called on it. And racism? Oh please! The most racist people I know are democrats. But anyway, back to the original subject/question, why does the left get a pass on their opposition to homosexuality? And again, I agree that all this making a big deal out of someone "coming out" is getting to be a bit too much. Besides that, most that come out aren't telling us anything we didn't know already. Remember "gomer's" big announcement a few months ago? "Surprise, surprise, surprise"? Uh no, no surprise at all.

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

 Why is it so good to be ***** and such a bad thing to be straight?

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Because people love the unusual?

I don't care what two people do in their bedroom, just keep it out of my face. We were out of town a couple of weeks ago & in line at a Subway. A boy/girl in front of us, maybe 18-19 years old, were practically having sex. I wanted to tell them to get a hotel room. It was evident he had no respect for her but it's a shame she had no respect for herself to allow him to touch her the way he was in public. (his hand was inside the front of her shorts) They couldn't even order because their tongues were down each others throats.

I was disgusted by it as were the other people in line. And no, I don't find the sex act to be disgusting, but doing it in public in front of others is.

 

I've seen this same thing between gay men. In a gay pride parade last year that was televised, two men were evidently teaching the other gays how to do it while walking. They were doing everything but penetration & being applauded while doing it. It also was disgusting.

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Jennifer Best,

 

Pick any, ANY, Biblical Christian issue -- and you will always find some who "wear the Christian hat" who will disagree with what the Bible teaches.

 

So, should we Christians follow the secular society's interpretation of God's Word?  Or should we truly follow God's Written Word?

 

A Christian believer will ALWAYS follow God's Word without trying to find loop holes around what God has written.

 

But, there will always be those, and many sincere Christians fall into this trap -- who do not believe the Bible is truly the Holy Spirit inspired, Holy Spirit inerrant, literal Written Word of God.  To them, the Bible is just a good guideline, a book of metaphorical and mythical stories for teaching us about God and the Christian life -- but, it should not be read literally.

 

Why do they take this metaphorical, mythical view of the Bible?  Because then, they can justify ANY interpretation they want which allows them to fit into society's mold -- instead of following in Christ's footsteps.

 

My Friend, all you have found is a nest of ultra-liberals who want to bend God to fit into society's mold -- instead of adapting society to fit into God's mold.   Personally, I will stay with God on those issues.

 

I find this Scripture verse to be a good spiritual and moral compass:

 

Joshua 24:15, If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

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Bill, you've given up pork, right?

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Jan,


But, my biggest problem with the gay community is its efforts to influence children, starting in Kindergarten, into their aberrant lifestyle.  If a person is gay, let him/her be gay -- but, stay away from our children.

 

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Time to put up or shut up, Bill.  Show us an example of gays trying to "recruit" kindegarteners. 

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Jan,

If a person is gay, let him/her be gay -- but, stay away from our children.

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Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

Time to put up or shut up, Bill.  Show us an example of gays trying to "recruit" kindegarteners. 

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OUR children??!? Silly, Billy..........someone tell him he doesn't have any  children.

Influence them in what way? Do you honestly think gay people want to make others gay? To what end? Did you ever stop to think those books are there to explain things to kids? Maybe if they read the books, and understand a few things, they won't be in the school yard surrounding "susie and johnny" and beating the tar out of them because they have two mommies or two daddies. How about the kids with the "correct" make up of parents that are gay? I notice you didn't want to answer my other questions. That's OK, you guys never do.

Another question that is always ignored, what about kids that lose their mom or dad and are raised in single parent households? Where does the male or female influence come from in those homes? What about kids that do have dads and moms that are never around because of work or other things? What about gay people that are still "in the closet" that have kids? How does having a mom and a dad insure a child will grow up to be straight? Do you claim someone or something influenced them?  Do you ever stop to think that gay people have moms and dads, aunts and uncles, male and female cousins? 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by Jankinonya:
Watch out Best, your hood is showing. 

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It's hard for me to believe that Jenn is a member of the KKK. They're the only ones I know of that wears a hood.

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It was sarcasm. She is probably not in the KKK she is just a run of the mill racist. 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

I've never noticed Jenn being a racist but there's some on here that doesn't mind shouting it to the roof tops. .

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It would be interesting to know just how I could be considered a racist. There's not ONE post I ever made that could even be remotely considered racist by anyone other than an ignorant race baiting leftie. 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

I've never noticed Jenn being a racist but there's some on here that doesn't mind shouting it to the roof tops. .

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It would be interesting to know just how I could be considered a racist. There's not ONE post I ever made that could even be remotely considered racist by anyone other than an ignorant race baiting leftie. 

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Oh of course you don't just come right out and say you are racist. You don't have to. Most racist don't have enough guts to admit it out right. Cowards the whole lot of you.  Who brought race into this thread? You did. As you do almost daily. 

Hi all,

 

JT raises the question, "Does anyone think that books such as 'Little Johnny Has Two Mommies' or 'Susie Has Two Daddies' is not an attempt to influence young kids?"

 

And, Jennifier Best responds, "Influence them in what way?  Do you honestly think gay people want to make others gay?  To what end?  Did you ever stop to think those books are there to explain things to kids?  Maybe if they read the books, and understand a few things, they won't be in the school yard surrounding 'Susie and Johnny' and beating the tar out of them because they have two mommies or two daddies."

 

I have to agree with JT.  When we see schools introducing such material starting in Kindergarten, it has to be for one purpose -- to indoctrinate those vulnerable young minds into accepting the two-mommy or two-daddy arrangements -- and eventually accepting those aberrant lifestyles as normal.  In other words, they are training these young minds to accept the aberrant, that abnormal, as normal -- and in doing this, working toward changing society's norm to accept gay marriages as normal. 

 

There is a definite agenda in such teaching material -- and it really has nothing to do with bullying.  We see very little, if any, bullying in Kindergarten -- yet, that kind of material, and even gay guest speakers, are found in Kindergarten and PreSchool classes all across America.

 

This is an interesting article from Focus On The Family:

 

Capturing Children’s Minds

http://www.truetolerance.org/2...ing-childrens-minds/

 

I have read of the well known Asian teaching that "to capture a nation, first we must capture the minds of its children."   Unfortunately, I do not have a reference URL link for that, yet. 

 

But, we can see that same philosophy in this presentation before Congress in 1963, outlining the Communist Manifesto for taking control of America.

 

The Communist Takeover Of  America - 45 Declared Goals
http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

You are about to read a list of 45 goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963.  As you read this, 39 years later, you should be shocked by the events that have played themselves out.

Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record --

Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals:  Extension of Remarks of Hon. A. S. Herlong, Jr. of Florida in the House of Representatives, Thursday, January 10, 1963 .

Mr. HERLONG, Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.   At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

Bill Gray Note:  This is a partial list of those goals, showing the ones pertinent to this discussion

17.  Get control of the schools.  Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda.  Soften the curriculum.  Get control of teachers' associations.  Put the party line in textbooks.

26.  Present homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27.  Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religionDiscredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28.  Eliminate prayer, or any phase of religious expression, in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

40.  Discredit the family as an institution.  Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41.  Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents.  Attribute prejudices, mental blocks, and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

My Friends, we have seen much of this Mind Control Manifesto already become reality in America.  Each of those goals, initially meant for Communist control of America -- but, used by mindless, self-appointed activist groups to force their mindset upon our society -- is a reality in America today.

 

How do we change this?  We change this by "We The People" taking America away from Liberal politicians who have already been brainwashed into acceptance of all those goals as their vision of the Societal Norm for America.  We do it with our VOTES -- starting in 2014 and 2016.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Does anyone think that books such as "Little Johnny has two mommies" or "Susie has two daddies" is not an attempt to influence young kids.

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Any idea where someone could find the books you named? Can you list schools forcing kids to read those books and how long it's been going on? My kids have never heard of either, and can't think of any book praising homosexuals they were asked, had it suggested to them, or forced to read.

quote:   Originally Posted by Jennifer Bestworking:

I guess a tiny child standing in a church, singing "ain't no homo going to make it to heaven", amidst cheers and applause from so called caring adults, is just fine with you, eh jt? Talk about influencing and indoctrinating.

Hi Jennifer Best,

 

Have YOU personally witnessed that happening?   Or is this just more of your atheist party line?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

I've never noticed Jenn being a racist but there's some on here that doesn't mind shouting it to the roof tops. .

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It would be interesting to know just how I could be considered a racist. There's not ONE post I ever made that could even be remotely considered racist by anyone other than an ignorant race baiting leftie. 

Is this one of those :the lady doth protest too much?"

Originally Posted by INVICTUS:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

I've never noticed Jenn being a racist but there's some on here that doesn't mind shouting it to the roof tops. .

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It would be interesting to know just how I could be considered a racist. There's not ONE post I ever made that could even be remotely considered racist by anyone other than an ignorant race baiting leftie. 

Is this one of those :the lady doth protest too much?"

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I know you're not talking about me.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by INVICTUS:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

I've never noticed Jenn being a racist but there's some on here that doesn't mind shouting it to the roof tops. .

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It would be interesting to know just how I could be considered a racist. There's not ONE post I ever made that could even be remotely considered racist by anyone other than an ignorant race baiting leftie. 

Is this one of those :the lady doth protest too much?"

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I know you're not talking about me.

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No I wasn't Best, I be talking bout Jankin the yankee doodle liberal

 

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:   Originally Posted by Jennifer Bestworking:

I guess a tiny child standing in a church, singing "ain't no homo going to make it to heaven", amidst cheers and applause from so called caring adults, is just fine with you, eh jt? Talk about influencing and indoctrinating.

Hi Jennifer Best,

 

Have YOU personally witnessed that happening?   Or is this just more of your atheist party line?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Believe Now - Or Later

Billie Boy,

Can you show us examples of which schools these books are "forced on" kindergarten children? Or is this just more of you "Lying for Jesus" crap?

They don't answer questions dhs, they just keep telling lies. Once more jt.

 

Any idea where someone could find the books you named? Can you list schools forcing kids to read those books and how long it's been going on? My kids have never heard of either, and can't think of any book praising homosexuals they were asked, had it suggested to them, or forced to read.

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:   Originally Posted by Jennifer Bestworking:

I guess a tiny child standing in a church, singing "ain't no homo going to make it to heaven", amidst cheers and applause from so called caring adults, is just fine with you, eh jt? Talk about influencing and indoctrinating.

Hi Jennifer Best,

 

Have YOU personally witnessed that happening?   Or is this just more of your atheist party line?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

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Here you go Bill

 

Link

Originally Posted by CrustyMac:
Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:   Originally Posted by Jennifer Bestworking:

I guess a tiny child standing in a church, singing "ain't no homo going to make it to heaven", amidst cheers and applause from so called caring adults, is just fine with you, eh jt? Talk about influencing and indoctrinating.

Hi Jennifer Best,

 

Have YOU personally witnessed that happening?   Or is this just more of your atheist party line?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

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Here you go Bill

 

Link

 

 

https://www.tnvalleytalks.com/t...we-dont-condone-hate

 

Caught you on that one? Seems like you're caught on many other things. Such as the lie that the book is being forced on kids. The very fact is, you and others spread the "susie" lie without even knowing what the heck you're talking about. Want to try to answer the other questions? Guess not, you're just like bill and all the rest when it comes to not being able to answer questions, you ignore them. Again, maybe you should have "googled".

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