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I don't care if you go there and smoke pot and cavort around naked...I stand by every word I stated here.

Well since I don't ever cavort naked (except in private with hubby) and I never smoke pot, they're safe with me. And if I did go to their wedding and smoke pot and cavort naked most likely they'd call the cops, my husband and children would be a lot more than upset, and I'm sure I wouldn't be included in any more of their activities. I really don't care if you "stand by your word" or not. There doesn't seem to be a lot of substance to "your word".
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I have seen the wiccan version of a wedding. It is completely outside the mores (pronounced morrays) and cultural norms of our society and is a manifestation of an extreme minority fringe belief (compliment) that screams.."Look at me, I need attention.." and thus to most, it is a circus.

You mean like those lavish christian church weddings with the "most of the time knocked up brides" that yell LOOK AT ME, my daddy loves me cause he spent thousands and thousands of dollars to prove it? Those kind of weddings? LOL-Man you are just low hanging fruit.
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you are saying that those not married in the name of your God are not really married then I disagree.


I think it would be helpful to separate the 2 parts of a marriage- the "Civil Union" and the "Covenant- the Sacramental Marriage".
You can have a legal marriage, of course, by any civil means- but to receive the Sacrament of Matrimony= you need a Church.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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Oh aye... very true, i knew that.. they knew that, but they wanted it offically legally legit - paperwork and all.

i used to scare the willies out of people with that bit of knowledge.. i'd point out to the that if they ever introduced their live in girlfriend as ' the ol lady' they were indicating a state or marrriage, and were there for legally married.

i terrified a lot of people. it was right darn entertaining.

They're getting legally married, I do know that, not sure how it's going to happen but I know there are plenty of people qualified to perform a "legal" ceremony. Now that I know we don't have to dress in medieval costumes I'm looking forward to it.


ROFL

/cheers Smiler

there are different ways to make it legal.. do what my firends did, or just have whoever is ding the ceremony check out the guidelines and make adaptions as needed.

either way, i hope they have a long and happy life together - a good marriage can be one of the few perfect things a person can ever experiance.
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Originally posted by vplee123:
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you are saying that those not married in the name of your God are not really married then I disagree.


I think it would be helpful to separate the 2 parts of a marriage- the "Civil Union" and the "Covenant- the Sacramental Marriage".
You can have a legal marriage, of course, by any civil means- but to receive the Sacrament of Matrimony= you need a Church.


i disagree. my 2nd wedding was in a park. the buidling doesn't matter.
all that matters is haveing god in your heart, which is where he resides anyway, not in buildings.
Smiler

my first marriage was in st. michaels. beautiful building, but i can't believe god was there in any way. not because of the location, but because of the circumstances and the people involved.
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Originally posted by vplee123:
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you are saying that those not married in the name of your God are not really married then I disagree.


I think it would be helpful to separate the 2 parts of a marriage- the "Civil Union" and the "Covenant- the Sacramental Marriage".
You can have a legal marriage, of course, by any civil means- but to receive the Sacrament of Matrimony= you need a Church.


I agree with that. A religious ceremony is not needed for a couple to be married. There are different "covenants" that different religions use. Just like a Christian couple could have a classic Christian ceremony with a licensed clergy and still not have the covenant of Handfasting. Just like this couple will not have the covenant of holy matrimony. I would have neither of those things. I would still be married. I really don't even understand why anyone would get married these days except for legal/financial reasons.
Nagel, sorry- should have clarified- I don't mean "Church" as in the physical building.
Perhaps to clarify, there is a difference between a civil union, and a Sacramental Marriage. Thats all..
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matrimony, is a "covenant by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life and which is ordered by its nature to the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring. [It] has been raised by Christ the Lord to the dignity of a sacrament between the baptized."
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
I do believe I am witnessing a hijacking!
It's just the way discussion goes I guess. My husband and I started out talking about a place we shop sometimes and how long it's been since we went by there. We ended up talking about a FED-EX delivery man that we were fond of but haven't seen in a while because his route changed. We even laughed and said "how did we get from there to there"? No harm done.

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