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First I believe you refered to me as Billie. My name is not Billie. Second you quoted me as saying something I never said. Third, I posted this on the religion forum because I wanted to know what people of religion thought. I guess I assumed that mostly religious people would be on a religious forum but apparently the athiest by far out number the religious folks. The pack on this forum try to bundle anyone who disagrees with their opinion into one bundle and then they attack them. They attempt to run anyone that would dare disagree with them off the forum, like a bunch of spoiled children. They have just about succeeded, since there are very few people other than the pack who even post here anymore. So, the three answers I gave above are why I included you with the pack. And by the way, Christians shouldn't be the only ones that are held to moral standards, if you get my drift


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Who has been "run off" this forum by your so called "pack"? I've seen christians leave because of other christians, how about those people? How many people has bill gray reported and had banned, or nagged at and run down until they got sick of it and left? He's tried to do that to most of us that you try to call a "pack", and like I posted earlier, had some of us been as vindictive as he is, he might have been banned himself.  And what an odd pack it would be. Republicans, democrats, christians, atheists, agnostics, with the only thing in common-we don't take mess from bill or anyone else. Let me see if I get "your drift". You think no one should speak up when bill, you, other "christians" posts nasty things to them and other people, but YOU have the right to "speak up"? Hold christians to moral standards? Why would anyone even try to do that? IMO there are only a few on here that call themselves christians that have morals.


How many times has bill posted to other christians on here that they are in cults, they aren't christians, they need to go to church and find "gawd" (his version of that god)? But that's OK with you. Care to tell us why that is OK with you? How about you and a few assorted nuts that take up for bill and each other no matter what any of you post about people? Are you a "pack"?

Originally Posted by gbrk:

Very interesting! I don't think I've contributed hardly anything to this particular discussion with Gingee yet I get attacked by being inserted in the lists of folks that are a "pack". What I did do was make a post about how it sure seems that your (Gingee) and Bills posting style are almost identical and yet you have added one more similarity, by including me in your pack. Why didn't you just use the word you famously use most of the time ... cabal         

 

So Gingee answer me this! I've stayed on the side in this conversation, for the most part, yet you saw fit to include me in your narrow list. 
 
Gingee said in the post highlighted above: "First I believe you refered to me as Billie"  WHERE GINGEE?  Where did I call you "Billie"?   On your FIRST point I believe you are in error so IF I have called you "Billie" please indicate where, so I may address it since it seems you have a problem with that?  IF NOT then I will leave it to you for misapplying it to me.


Second
you (Gingee) state that I quoted you as saying something you never said. WHAT? What did I quote you saying that you didn't? Your statement beginning this is at the top of this reply and includes my ID GBRK in with others which you say "run in packs". What Packs?

 

Also you included me with other forum members in what you call a "Pack" yet Bill makes almost identical statements except he calls it a Cabal

I did accuse you of false judging me but I based that upon your above statement classifying me along with other members who are in no way alike me so what justification do you have of classifying me in that "pack"?

The ONLY similarity we all have in common is regarding BILL and our belief of his actions on this forum. Is this what's offending you? The fact that we have criticized Bill? Does us criticizing Bill offend or upset you?

You then AGAIN include me in, what you term as a Pack here on the forum yet you do so in the context of referring to non-believers and atheist. Your words almost 100% mirror a prior post of Bills, yet again, reinforcing the suspicion that either you and Bill are one in the same OR that you work in collusion with each other on your post which if true is not a very good Christian witness to present to those who are not Christians. It doesn't make us appear in the best of light to others.

Speaking of one other thing BILL has done in the past that you now are doing and that is JUDGING

your other forum members. You MISJUDGE me in a very non-Christian way.

you accuse me of being a part of the pack

You further clarify the pack, seemingly in your mind, as being non-Christians. I AM A CHRISTIAN and do not appreciate you indicating otherwise. That's something that BILL would do.
One other argument you use for posting a political post on the Religion forum is that it contained the words Christian or Muslim within the text, as a justification. ONE OTHER person and only one other forum member that uses that argument for them posting obviously Political post from within the Religion forum. Care to guess who that member is? It's BILL the same one I have said your post very closely mirrors. Again reinforcing the thought that Bill might be ghostwriting your post.

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gbrk, in those many PM's that you, O No, & I took part in, I became to think of you as my friend. You were always kind to me & offered any help you could ever give. You seem more offended at Gingee's comparing you with me, Jenn, roadpuppy, crustymac, & invictus than you are at her accusing you of saying something you didn't say. You were upset that Gingee classified you with other members [ me, Jenn, roadpuppy, crustymac, & invictus) as though we're something bad.

I would rather be classified with someone that makes no secret of what they stand for than someone like Bill & Gingee that claim to be something they're not, that lies, & has no problem twisting the words of others. Some people on this forum believe Bill to be a Christian because he says he is. It is not ok to just talk the talk & not bother with the walk.

 

I put in bold print the many times you mention the "Pack", as though you couldn't stand the idea of being associated with any of us, as if we were somehow dirty. So what if she mentions you in context  to non-believers and atheist? That wouldn't make you any dirtier than being mentioned in context with her & Bill. In fact, it would look worse because we don't lie as to what we are or how we believe. Bill & Gingee refer to themselves as Christians, they lie when it suits them, & twist the things we say. 

 

I agree with you that you did not call Gingee Billie. I looked for it & I couldn't find it either. I would call that a lie if she can't show where you said it.

As far as her judging you, & anyone else here, I wouldn't worry about it. That is, after all, what she & Bill do. If I remember correctly, Bill put you in the same box he put O No when he said she wasn't a Christian because she was my friend. He accused you of the same thing.

 

BTW,  Bill & Gingee's posting style are almost identical, but it's not because she is his other ID, it's something much closer than that. 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by INVICTUS:
Originally Posted by Gingee:
Originally Posted by INVICTUS:
Originally Posted by Gingee:
Originally Posted by INVICTUS:

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The only thing evolved here is a political thread in this forum from

a billie-je aka gingee (and others) in that he believes he has the right to

ignore the laws of the forum, the laws of common respect, the laws

of nature.

 

In what way have I ignored the laws you mentioned?

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For one thing when y'all post political threads in this religious

forum, everyone that wants to keeps up with politics.

I don't need or want politics here and I'm sure most don't want

it in here either.

 

Cheers

 


Well, invictus, I do believe my post did contain the subject of religion. Are not Christians and muslims considered religions? I would appriciate it if you would tell me just what forum rule I broke by posting under the religious forum. And after you do that please inform me how I broke the laws of human respect and nature?

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Billie-je just because you say the word christian in a political thread and post

it in a religious forum you aren't fooling anyone, that's just another form of lie.

 

You have no respect for anyone (except your AKAs) and you show it every

chance you get.
 

Man are you one sick puppy but you certainly have one wild imagination. You just keep on believing that I'm whoever you want me to be. If it makes you happy and gives you something to keep your head from spinning off your sholders so be it. But.... you still didn't answer my questions...... it is just as well...... I really don't want to know......as Rosann Rosanna Danna use to say..........NEVER MIND!!!!!

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Originally Posted by gbrk:

Very interesting! I don't think I've contributed hardly anything to this particular discussion with Gingee yet I get attacked by being inserted in the lists of folks that are a "pack". What I did do was make a post about how it sure seems that your (Gingee) and Bills posting style are almost identical and yet you have added one more similarity, by including me in your pack. Why didn't you just use the word you famously use most of the time ... cabal         

 

So Gingee answer me this! I've stayed on the side in this conversation, for the most part, yet you saw fit to include me in your narrow list. 
 
Gingee said in the post highlighted above: "First I believe you refered to me as Billie"  WHERE GINGEE?  Where did I call you "Billie"?   On your FIRST point I believe you are in error so IF I have called you "Billie" please indicate where, so I may address it since it seems you have a problem with that?  IF NOT then I will leave it to you for misapplying it to me.


Second
you (Gingee) state that I quoted you as saying something you never said. WHAT? What did I quote you saying that you didn't? Your statement beginning this is at the top of this reply and includes my ID GBRK in with others which you say "run in packs". What Packs?

 

Also you included me with other forum members in what you call a "Pack" yet Bill makes almost identical statements except he calls it a Cabal

I did accuse you of false judging me but I based that upon your above statement classifying me along with other members who are in no way alike me so what justification do you have of classifying me in that "pack"?

The ONLY similarity we all have in common is regarding BILL and our belief of his actions on this forum. Is this what's offending you? The fact that we have criticized Bill? Does us criticizing Bill offend or upset you?

You then AGAIN include me in, what you term as a Pack here on the forum yet you do so in the context of referring to non-believers and atheist. Your words almost 100% mirror a prior post of Bills, yet again, reinforcing the suspicion that either you and Bill are one in the same OR that you work in collusion with each other on your post which if true is not a very good Christian witness to present to those who are not Christians. It doesn't make us appear in the best of light to others.

Speaking of one other thing BILL has done in the past that you now are doing and that is JUDGING

your other forum members. You MISJUDGE me in a very non-Christian way.

you accuse me of being a part of the pack

You further clarify the pack, seemingly in your mind, as being non-Christians. I AM A CHRISTIAN and do not appreciate you indicating otherwise. That's something that BILL would do.
One other argument you use for posting a political post on the Religion forum is that it contained the words Christian or Muslim within the text, as a justification. ONE OTHER person and only one other forum member that uses that argument for them posting obviously Political post from within the Religion forum. Care to guess who that member is? It's BILL the same one I have said your post very closely mirrors. Again reinforcing the thought that Bill might be ghostwriting your post.

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gbrk, in those many PM's that you, O No, & I took part in, I became to think of you as my friend. You were always kind to me & offered any help you could ever give. You seem more offended at Gingee's comparing you with me, Jenn, roadpuppy, crustymac, & invictus than you are at her accusing you of saying something you didn't say. You were upset that Gingee classified you with other members [ me, Jenn, roadpuppy, crustymac, & invictus) as though we're something bad.

I would rather be classified with someone that makes no secret of what they stand for than someone like Bill & Gingee that claim to be something they're not, that lies, & has no problem twisting the words of others. Some people on this forum believe Bill to be a Christian because he says he is. It is not ok to just talk the talk & not bother with the walk.

 

I put in bold print the many times you mention the "Pack", as though you couldn't stand the idea of being associated with any of us, as if we were somehow dirty. So what if she mentions you in context  to non-believers and atheist? That wouldn't make you any dirtier than being mentioned in context with her & Bill. In fact, it would look worse because we don't lie as to what we are or how we believe. Bill & Gingee refer to themselves as Christians, they lie when it suits them, & twist the things we say. 

 

I agree with you that you did not call Gingee Billie. I looked for it & I couldn't find it either. I would call that a lie if she can't show where you said it.

As far as her judging you, & anyone else here, I wouldn't worry about it. That is, after all, what she & Bill do. If I remember correctly, Bill put you in the same box he put O No when he said she wasn't a Christian because she was my friend. He accused you of the same thing.

 

BTW,  Bill & Gingee's posting style are almost identical, but it's not because she is his other ID, it's something much closer than that. 

 

 

 

You have it all figured out don't you semi. You are the one who tells the lies and you know it. You lied about me saying I was from California. You lied when you said I was a female. You need to try to at least be honest when you post something. There are those on this forum that do not agree with what I say on some or even all things and that's ok. I have never intentionally lied or tried to mislead when I have posted on this forum. I challenged you to present proof, any kind of proof where I ever said I was from California or that I was a female and you could not. And yet you have the nerve to make this same claim again. The first time, you could have just been mistaken. But to say it again when you knew it was a lie means you are a bald faced liar. If you have lied about me what other lies have you told. Not only on this forum but in your everyday life. God tells me to love the sinner but hate the sin so I will pray for you semi because you sure do need it.

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Originally Posted by gbrk:

Very interesting! I don't think I've contributed hardly anything to this particular discussion with Gingee yet I get attacked by being inserted in the lists of folks that are a "pack". What I did do was make a post about how it sure seems that your (Gingee) and Bills posting style are almost identical and yet you have added one more similarity, by including me in your pack. Why didn't you just use the word you famously use most of the time ... cabal         

 

So Gingee answer me this! I've stayed on the side in this conversation, for the most part, yet you saw fit to include me in your narrow list. 
 
Gingee said in the post highlighted above: "First I believe you refered to me as Billie"  WHERE GINGEE?  Where did I call you "Billie"?   On your FIRST point I believe you are in error so IF I have called you "Billie" please indicate where, so I may address it since it seems you have a problem with that?  IF NOT then I will leave it to you for misapplying it to me.


Second
you (Gingee) state that I quoted you as saying something you never said. WHAT? What did I quote you saying that you didn't? Your statement beginning this is at the top of this reply and includes my ID GBRK in with others which you say "run in packs". What Packs?

 

Also you included me with other forum members in what you call a "Pack" yet Bill makes almost identical statements except he calls it a Cabal

I did accuse you of false judging me but I based that upon your above statement classifying me along with other members who are in no way alike me so what justification do you have of classifying me in that "pack"?

The ONLY similarity we all have in common is regarding BILL and our belief of his actions on this forum. Is this what's offending you? The fact that we have criticized Bill? Does us criticizing Bill offend or upset you?

You then AGAIN include me in, what you term as a Pack here on the forum yet you do so in the context of referring to non-believers and atheist. Your words almost 100% mirror a prior post of Bills, yet again, reinforcing the suspicion that either you and Bill are one in the same OR that you work in collusion with each other on your post which if true is not a very good Christian witness to present to those who are not Christians. It doesn't make us appear in the best of light to others.

Speaking of one other thing BILL has done in the past that you now are doing and that is JUDGING

your other forum members. You MISJUDGE me in a very non-Christian way.

you accuse me of being a part of the pack

You further clarify the pack, seemingly in your mind, as being non-Christians. I AM A CHRISTIAN and do not appreciate you indicating otherwise. That's something that BILL would do.
One other argument you use for posting a political post on the Religion forum is that it contained the words Christian or Muslim within the text, as a justification. ONE OTHER person and only one other forum member that uses that argument for them posting obviously Political post from within the Religion forum. Care to guess who that member is? It's BILL the same one I have said your post very closely mirrors. Again reinforcing the thought that Bill might be ghostwriting your post.

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gbrk, in those many PM's that you, O No, & I took part in, I became to think of you as my friend. You were always kind to me & offered any help you could ever give. You seem more offended at Gingee's comparing you with me, Jenn, roadpuppy, crustymac, & invictus than you are at her accusing you of saying something you didn't say. You were upset that Gingee classified you with other members [ me, Jenn, roadpuppy, crustymac, & invictus) as though we're something bad.

I would rather be classified with someone that makes no secret of what they stand for than someone like Bill & Gingee that claim to be something they're not, that lies, & has no problem twisting the words of others. Some people on this forum believe Bill to be a Christian because he says he is. It is not ok to just talk the talk & not bother with the walk.

 

Semi,  Let me straighten out one thing.  If you thought my post to Gingee demonstrated offense you were right but not at association with you or any other member.  Think for a moment about my prior post, to Bill and some of the things I have said I detest and condemn Christians for doing.  My rebuke of Gingee was because she WRONGLY Judged me as a non-Christian.  It had nothing to do with anyone else for Invictus was also mentioned and I consider Invictus a Christian.  My offense was that she was JUDGING, and judging only based upon nothing but her/his own bias and prejudice which is wrong and I called her on it.   Maybe I could have or should have been more specific but now that I have had a chance to clarify that you and others will know why the offense.  It's bad enough when one Christian disagrees on a doctrinal difference but what Gingee was doing was far more than a doctrinal or teaching difference it was to the core of who was and who was not a Christian and to that I do take stern offense that someone would Judge me as a non-Christian just because I happen to take her favorite to task for a disagreement. 

 

 

I put in bold print the many times you mention the "Pack", as though you couldn't stand the idea of being associated with any of us, as if we were somehow dirty. So what if she mentions you in context  to non-believers and atheist? That wouldn't make you any dirtier than being mentioned in context with her & Bill. In fact, it would look worse because we don't lie as to what we are or how we believe. Bill & Gingee refer to themselves as Christians, they lie when it suits them, & twist the things we say. 

 

Again your point taken and very valid.  My highlight or choice of the word "Pack" was simply because, and to play on, Bills frequent use of the word Cabal and highlighting that similarity.  Again it wasn't my intent to offend you or claim offense.  I hope you know I don't change my stripes from post to post and therefore let me direct you to remember when before Bill addressed me asking was I your friend or would I associate with you and I answered certainly and proudly claim you as my friend, and still do.  I am sorry you took it differently and I can see where you would so I apologize for my tactics or method, rest assured my gripe was at being judged by a fellow professing Christian without merit and most likely account of prior bias or being prejudice against me solely on my rebuke of someone close to her.

 

 

I agree with you that you did not call Gingee Billie. I looked for it & I couldn't find it either. I would call that a lie if she can't show where you said it.

As far as her judging you, & anyone else here, I wouldn't worry about it. That is, after all, what she & Bill do. If I remember correctly, Bill put you in the same box he put O No when he said she wasn't a Christian because she was my friend. He accused you of the same thing.

 

Also remember that was the very reason I ask Bill not to use my ID in his personal comments in personal blogs or his Facebook page because anyone there, not knowing me, ending up here would be tainted and biased based on incomplete and tainted information.  Since Gingee was fairly new to the forum, as for posting, and had almost the same views as Bill I could only assume one possibility or answer would be she came from Bills group of friends on facebook or personal blog.  Again it isn't the people on there I objected to it's being judged by a fellow, professing, Christian as a non-Christian which is not something that those who want to witness in Christ name should do and present to non-Christians.  We should (My opinion) defend our faith but be respectful and also non-judgmental toward others and that is not our responsibility.  Now a non-Christian may make that judgment and it would not be the same as when a professing Christian does because the professing Christian is speaking and being Christ representative here on the forum.

 

 

BTW,  Bill & Gingee's posting style are almost identical, but it's not because she is his other ID, it's something much closer than that. 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Gingee:
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Originally Posted by gbrk:

Very interesting! I don't think I've contributed hardly anything to this particular discussion with Gingee yet I get attacked by being inserted in the lists of folks that are a "pack". What I did do was make a post about how it sure seems that your (Gingee) and Bills posting style are almost identical and yet you have added one more similarity, by including me in your pack. Why didn't you just use the word you famously use most of the time ... cabal         

 

So Gingee answer me this! I've stayed on the side in this conversation, for the most part, yet you saw fit to include me in your narrow list. 
 
Gingee said in the post highlighted above: "First I believe you refered to me as Billie"  WHERE GINGEE?  Where did I call you "Billie"?   On your FIRST point I believe you are in error so IF I have called you "Billie" please indicate where, so I may address it since it seems you have a problem with that?  IF NOT then I will leave it to you for misapplying it to me.


Second
you (Gingee) state that I quoted you as saying something you never said. WHAT? What did I quote you saying that you didn't? Your statement beginning this is at the top of this reply and includes my ID GBRK in with others which you say "run in packs". What Packs?

 

Also you included me with other forum members in what you call a "Pack" yet Bill makes almost identical statements except he calls it a Cabal

I did accuse you of false judging me but I based that upon your above statement classifying me along with other members who are in no way alike me so what justification do you have of classifying me in that "pack"?

The ONLY similarity we all have in common is regarding BILL and our belief of his actions on this forum. Is this what's offending you? The fact that we have criticized Bill? Does us criticizing Bill offend or upset you?

You then AGAIN include me in, what you term as a Pack here on the forum yet you do so in the context of referring to non-believers and atheist. Your words almost 100% mirror a prior post of Bills, yet again, reinforcing the suspicion that either you and Bill are one in the same OR that you work in collusion with each other on your post which if true is not a very good Christian witness to present to those who are not Christians. It doesn't make us appear in the best of light to others.

Speaking of one other thing BILL has done in the past that you now are doing and that is JUDGING

your other forum members. You MISJUDGE me in a very non-Christian way.

you accuse me of being a part of the pack

You further clarify the pack, seemingly in your mind, as being non-Christians. I AM A CHRISTIAN and do not appreciate you indicating otherwise. That's something that BILL would do.
One other argument you use for posting a political post on the Religion forum is that it contained the words Christian or Muslim within the text, as a justification. ONE OTHER person and only one other forum member that uses that argument for them posting obviously Political post from within the Religion forum. Care to guess who that member is? It's BILL the same one I have said your post very closely mirrors. Again reinforcing the thought that Bill might be ghostwriting your post.

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gbrk, in those many PM's that you, O No, & I took part in, I became to think of you as my friend. You were always kind to me & offered any help you could ever give. You seem more offended at Gingee's comparing you with me, Jenn, roadpuppy, crustymac, & invictus than you are at her accusing you of saying something you didn't say. You were upset that Gingee classified you with other members [ me, Jenn, roadpuppy, crustymac, & invictus) as though we're something bad.

I would rather be classified with someone that makes no secret of what they stand for than someone like Bill & Gingee that claim to be something they're not, that lies, & has no problem twisting the words of others. Some people on this forum believe Bill to be a Christian because he says he is. It is not ok to just talk the talk & not bother with the walk.

 

I put in bold print the many times you mention the "Pack", as though you couldn't stand the idea of being associated with any of us, as if we were somehow dirty. So what if she mentions you in context  to non-believers and atheist? That wouldn't make you any dirtier than being mentioned in context with her & Bill. In fact, it would look worse because we don't lie as to what we are or how we believe. Bill & Gingee refer to themselves as Christians, they lie when it suits them, & twist the things we say. 

 

I agree with you that you did not call Gingee Billie. I looked for it & I couldn't find it either. I would call that a lie if she can't show where you said it.

As far as her judging you, & anyone else here, I wouldn't worry about it. That is, after all, what she & Bill do. If I remember correctly, Bill put you in the same box he put O No when he said she wasn't a Christian because she was my friend. He accused you of the same thing.

 

BTW,  Bill & Gingee's posting style are almost identical, but it's not because she is his other ID, it's something much closer than that. 

 

 

 

You have it all figured out don't you semi. You are the one who tells the lies and you know it. You lied about me saying I was from California. You lied when you said I was a female. You need to try to at least be honest when you post something. There are those on this forum that do not agree with what I say on some or even all things and that's ok. I have never intentionally lied or tried to mislead when I have posted on this forum. I challenged you to present proof, any kind of proof where I ever said I was from California or that I was a female and you could not. And yet you have the nerve to make this same claim again. The first time, you could have just been mistaken. But to say it again when you knew it was a lie means you are a bald faced liar. If you have lied about me what other lies have you told. Not only on this forum but in your everyday life. God tells me to love the sinner but hate the sin so I will pray for you semi because you sure do need it.

You responded to Semi, Gingee, I ask you specifically to answer some accusations you made about me.  Please, I will ask again, will you answer my questions where you accused me of things?  What do you say?



"First I believe you refered to me as Billie"  WHERE GINGEE?  Where did I call you "Billie"?   On your FIRST point I believe you are in error so IF I have called you "Billie" please indicate where, so I may address it since it seems you have a problem with that?  IF NOT then I will leave it to you for misapplying it to me.

 

Second you (Gingee) state that I quoted you as saying something you never said. WHAT? What did I quote you saying that you didn't?

 

Third:  . You MISJUDGE me in a very UN-Christian way.

you accuse me of being a part of the pack.  You further clarify the pack, seemingly in your mind, as being non-Christians.   I AM A CHRISTIAN and do not appreciate you indicating otherwise   Again my problem with what you have done is NOT association with other forum members who have their own opinions but rather classification in a group you classify seemingly as Non-Christian.  What basis do you, personally, make this judgment on?

Originally Posted by Gingee:

You have it all figured out don't you semi. You are the one who tells the lies and you know it. You lied about me saying I was from California. You lied when you said I was a female. You need to try to at least be honest when you post something. There are those on this forum that do not agree with what I say on some or even all things and that's ok. I have never intentionally lied or tried to mislead when I have posted on this forum. I challenged you to present proof, any kind of proof where I ever said I was from California or that I was a female and you could not. And yet you have the nerve to make this same claim again. The first time, you could have just been mistaken. But to say it again when you knew it was a lie means you are a bald faced liar. If you have lied about me what other lies have you told. Not only on this forum but in your everyday life. God tells me to love the sinner but hate the sin so I will pray for you semi because you sure do need it.

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Yes, ma’am, I certainly have you figured out!! (as do some others here)

 

I’ve been hoping you would bring up the not being from California comment. Remember this post you made? The one where you as good as called me a liar about the Profile?

 

8/30/2012

Originally Posted by Gingee:

"You cannot see that kind of information because it never existed. You seem to have a bad nose problem and I believe if I were you I would look into what is causing it to continue to grow before a flock of hungry woodpeckers happen by."

 

I told you to ask anyone on this forum about the Profile that you said never existed, but of course, you didn’t. Even your Papa Bill posted that it’s still available. It was only moved, which I didn’t know. 

 

How can I give you proof? You know I can't since you changed it. I didn’t lie about anything. You changed your profile after I mentioned your being from California & a female. At the time, I thought you were the little wife, & you may still be. But after doing some research on your ID, I’ve come to figure out who you are. Deny it all you want but evidence doesn’t lie.

 

I don’t want your prayers, Gingee. You’re going to the same place I am. Keep your head stuck in the clouds, if it makes you feel better, but I prefer to face things head on rather than lie to myself.

 

BTW, another lie of the Bible. You say you love me? You don’t even know me & you sure don’t talk to people you’re supposed to love like you do me & others on here.

Exactly how much do you lie about things the Bible says you’re supposed to do, which you don’t, but you claim you do? You know, that little thing that “Christians” do. If you claim it, that’s faith. Hogwash!!

If you go back through some of the older threads you will see where others, most likely even me, used "she/her" when referring to gingee, and even though she/he(gingee) was posting to them on those threads there are no posts "correcting" them. (If there are I missed it.) I do remember too, a long time ago, someone mentioning gingee was in california. 

The reason I first checked her profile was because the only time she came on here was to cheer lead for Bill when she felt too many were coming against him. Then she would go away until it happened again. I assumed her to be Dory so I looked at the profile. When I saw  female from California, I believed it to be Dory. Then when I made a comment about it, the info changed to male with no state/town mentioned.

 

I remember too, many referring to her as she, and so did Bill, & not once did she correct any of us.

quote:   Originally Posted by Jennifer Bestworking:

If you go back through some of the older threads you will see where others, most likely even me, used "she/her" when referring to gingee, and even though she/he(gingee) was posting to them on those threads there are no posts "correcting" them. (If there are I missed it.) I do remember too, a long time ago, someone mentioning gingee was in california.


Hi Jennifer,

 

Actually, when Gingee first began to post, I was one who always wrote "she" when I responded.  I did this because the posting name reminded me of the female name "Ginger."   I suppose my mistake was just relating Gingee and Ginger and assuming.  Later, when Gingee corrected us that he is male, I made the correction.

 

I have never made a connection between him and California.  I just assumed that since he is posting on the Religion Forum, he must be from the Shoals area.   The only ones I know who are/or were from California are myself, Deep, and until a couple of years ago, Zip and his wife, who also posted on the TD Forums.   According to their last posts back then, they are now in Huntsville.  Other than those, I know of no one who has ever claimed to be from or in California.

 

Oh, I take that back.  Several years ago, Al Williams came up with an phony alias called Malibu Girl (from California) to help push his New Age Urantia Book religion.  But, when called on it -- he backed off and admitted she was just an alter ego he had invented.

 

But, I do not recall anyone else from California.  Today, it is just my Friend, Deep, and me.   And, no matter how many times I have invited him, he still will not go to church with me.

 

The only times I recall anyone mentioning that Gingee could be from California -- was when Chick keeps trying to connect Gingee and me.   But, sorry Chick, the only connection between the two of us is the Religion Forum. 

 

But, Gingee, if you are on Facebook -- I would love to have you become a Facebook Friend.  If you are there, shoot me a message on Facebook.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Gingee, do you remember I posted something a while back expressing surprise that you never acknowledged my "welcome post" to you when you first joined the forum? You said that you never noticed that post and apologized for not posting back.

 

Well, because you never acknowledged that welcome, I looked at your profile to see if you were an old poster under a new name. Your profile did indeed say that you were a female from California.

 

Now, there is something I want you to think about, and think hard. The Bible does tell us to honor our mother and father. But Jesus also said that we should never love ANY family member more than we love Him. To bear false witness against others in a misguided attempt to honor one's father is a direct slap in the face to our Lord.

 

You may think you are doing the right thing, but you are putting your immortal soul in peril by taking a page out of his book. He continually lies and then, when no proof is available because of changes in the forum, dares people to prove it, just as you have done with this identity thing. You need to apologize to Semi and the rest of us on this forum for lying to us, and you need to beg the Lord's forgivness.

 

And if you truly care about your "father", you should point out to him that he too, is slapping our Lord in the face with his lies. Maybe he'll listen to YOU.

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Gingee,

 

I believe Obama will "evolve" into anything his handlers tell him to be.  Because it is obvious that, since he entered college as a Foreign Student, and then, as a young man from a "middle class" family he was suddenly able to attend to two very expensive Ivy League Universities, Columbia and Harvard -- someone has been picking up the tab.  Who else but the international money families ....

 

<further verbal garbage snipped to save space and because it is off topic for this forum>

 

Moderators, are you reading?

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Billie boy... You are a disgusting piece of detritus... You constantly post your so-called Christian beliefs here hoping to find someone who is ignorant enough that they will believe you. You cloak yourself in Christianity, using such terms as "God Bless" and "My Christian Friends" when, in fact, you have no friends here. You attack fellow forum members who don't agree with you and call them "liars." Then you step out of bounds by posting this garbage off topic in the religion forum. Talk of lies and innuendo! I think Billie, that your alias Gingee, has sealed his fate, and perhaps yours, by intentionally posting here off topic...

I'll post no more in response to hypocrites such as you. And I hope I read less of you...

 <Moderators, Are you reading?>

 

Originally Posted by Dove of Peace:
 

Billie boy... You are a disgusting piece of detritus... You constantly post your so-called Christian beliefs here hoping to find someone who is ignorant enough that they will believe you. You cloak yourself in Christianity, using such terms as "God Bless" and "My Christian Friends" when, in fact, you have no friends here. You attack fellow forum members who don't agree with you and call them "liars." Then you step out of bounds by posting this garbage off topic in the religion forum. Talk of lies and innuendo! I think Billie, that your alias Gingee, has sealed his fate, and perhaps yours, by intentionally posting here off topic...

I'll post no more in response to hypocrites such as you. And I hope I read less of you...

 <Moderators, Are you reading?> 

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Gingee, did Papa Bill tell you what to type or did you come up with it on your own?

I came up with it on my own. Did bestworking, roadpuppy, crustymac,invictus or gbrk tell you what to say? You guys just run in packs don't you? Can't seem to stand up on your own can you? All you guys have to have your cheering section to function. You remind me of little kids trying to bully someone. Why don't you all try growing up and try to do something productive intead of destructive. The first thing you do when you post something, which is always about your obsession with Bill, you start whinning to your clones to come and help you out. I believe out of you all, you are the whinniest. So now why don't you go and have yourself a great day!


above is Gingee's reply to semi that prompted gbrk's reply below this


Very interesting!  I don't think I've contributed hardly anything to this particular discussion with Gingee yet I get attacked by being inserted in the lists of folks that are a "pack".  What I did do was make a post about how it sure seems that your (Gingee) and Bills posting style are almost identical and yet you have added one more similarity, by including me in your pack.  Why didn't you just use the word you famously use most of the time ... cabal. 

 

I don't know for sure but it seems so with every post the eerie similarity between Gingee and Bill such that if Gingee is not Bill writing under another name it's surely someone like his wife who is conspiring with him to post every word.   Maybe Gingee is Bill's Ghostwriter, no wait it's the other way around ... Bill is Gingee's ghostwriter?  That is what I alluded to in my only post under this section to get me added to this list I suppose which again makes me wonder if Gingee is not Bill in hiding?  Can't get someone to agree with you so you have to construct another?  Maybe not but Shame on you Gingee for pretending to be something yet by your action you are becoming so judgmental, false judging me!  Something also Bill does very well, are you sure you are not Bill?   My main comment to you Gingee, if that is who you are, was a complaint I have voiced to Bill and is not a false accusation.  YOU SHOULD HAVE POSTED THIS ON THE POLITICAL FORUM, NOT THE RELIGION FORUM.  Bill does this a lot so unless you are not Bill or Bill is not your ghostwriter then why insert a political statement in a religion forum?

 

So Gingee answer me this!   I've stayed on the side in this conversation, for the most part, yet you saw fit to include me in your narrow list.  WHY, what is my offense against you to justify this???  Being a professed Christian you should be willing to take your grievance before the other person so surely you won't go around talking behind someone's back so to say.  Speak up why have you decided to invoke my name all of a sudden unless I hit a nerve by claiming to associate you and Bill together?


Above is gbrk's initial reply ---- below is Gingee's reply to gbrk


First I believe you refered to me as Billie. My name is not Billie. Second you quoted me as saying something I never said. Third, I posted this on the religion forum because I wanted to know what people of religion thought. I guess I assumed that mostly religious people would be on a religious forum but apparently the athiest by far out number the religious folks. The pack on this forum try to bundle anyone who disagrees with their opinion into one bundle and then they attack them. They attempt to run anyone that would dare disagree with them off the forum, like a bunch of spoiled children. They have just about succeeded, since there are very few people other than the pack who even post here anymore. So, the three answers I gave above are why I included you with the pack. And by the way, Christians shouldn't be the only ones that are held to moral standards, if you get my drift. 


Gingee said in the post highlighted above:  "First I believe you refered to me as BillieWHERE GINGEE?  Where did I call you "Billie"?   On your FIRST point I believe you are in error so IF I have called you "Billie" please indicate where, so I may address it since it seems you have a problem with that?  IF NOT then I will leave it to you for misapplying it to me.

 

Second you (Gingee) state that I quoted you as saying something you never said.  WHAT?  What did I quote you saying that you didn't?  Your statement beginning this is at the top of this reply and includes my ID GBRK in with others which you say "run in packs".   What Packs?  and  What did I misapply to you and say you said that you didn't?  I said your and Bills writings are alike with one BIG Exception and that is of the length of the post.  Your responses are similar to Bills in many ways, at least I think.  Also you included me with other forum members in what you call a "Pack" yet Bill makes almost identical statements except he calls it a Cabal but again very similar in nature so I don't believe that is false either. In fact I did make a statements that because of the similarities is Bill a ghostwriter for you or visa versa?   I did accuse you of false judging me but I based that upon your above statement classifying me along with other members who are in no way alike me so what justification do you have of classifying me in that "pack"?  The ONLY similarity we all have in common is regarding BILL and our belief of his actions on this forum.  Is this what's offending you?  The fact that we have criticized Bill?  Does us criticizing Bill offend or upset you?  If so then you should also realize that we (all) criticize him for different things not for the same and not all our criticism is the same and unwarranted.

 

My comment to you was saying your original post under this forum category should have been in the POLITICAL forum. Which leads to your THIRD point:  You cite that you posted it in under the Religion forum in order to find out what people of religion thought yet not where in the context of your Political statement do you reference people of religion to inquire of them.   You then AGAIN include me in, what you term as a Pack here on the forum yet you do so in the context of referring to non-believers and atheist.  Your words almost 100% mirror a prior post of Bills, yet again, reinforcing the suspicion that either you and Bill are one in the same OR that you work in collusion with each other on your post which if true is not a very good Christian witness to present to those who are not Christians.  It doesn't make us appear in the best of light to others. 


Speaking of one other thing BILL has done in the past that you now are doing and that is JUDGING your other forum members.  You MISJUDGE me in a very non-Christian way.  Your "answers" to me first & second above appear veiled in deception as I have gone through the post above and cannot find where I misquoted you or called you Billie (two of) which you accuse me of being a part of the pack for.  You further clarify the pack, seemingly in your mind, as being non-Christians.  I will Correct you my friend ... I AM A CHRISTIAN and do not appreciate you indicating otherwise.  That's something that BILL would do. 


One other argument you use for posting a political post on the Religion forum is that it contained the words Christian or Muslim within the text, as a justification.  ONE OTHER person and only one other forum member that uses that argument for them posting obviously Political post from within the Religion forum.  Care to guess who that member is?  It's BILL the same one I have said your post very closely mirrors.  Again reinforcing the thought that Bill might be ghostwriting your post. 

 

So in case I have missed it, again, REMEMBER THE TWO QUESTIONS to you are:

(1)  Where have I (gbrk) called you "Billie"?  as you said I did.

(2)  Where did I misquote you?  What did I say that was false?

 

 

HELLOOOOOOOO Gingee???????     Are you there????

 

You made a few accusations regarding me and I have ask you over and over to account for your accusations regarding what you said about me.  Will you PLEASE address those questions I have of you regarding your answers to me?????

 

I've been waiting for you to respond and yet you have not.  Is there a reason?  I hope you are not ill or sick but you did make statements regarding me so I would like you to clarify them or retract what allegations you made regarding me.

Originally Posted by gbrk:

HELLOOOOOOOO Gingee??????? Are you there????

You made a few accusations regarding me and I have ask you over and over to account for your accusations regarding what you said about me. Will you PLEASE address those questions I have of you regarding your answers to me?????

I've been waiting for you to respond and yet you have not. Is there a reason? I hope you are not ill or sick but you did make statements regarding me so I would like you to clarify them or retract what allegations you made regarding me.

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She's pulling a Papa Bill, making accusations & then running.

Check your PM's, I have some info for you.   

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