What are your thoughts? Does President Obama blame our country's problems on everyone else? Do you know of any time when Obama has said he was wrong about something?
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I think there will be little difference between how Obama and Jimmy Carter are remembered. Both were likeable enough and had good intentions but neither of them was capable of the office.
Seems like he admitted being wrong with his statement that "the public sector is doing fine" Maybe that's the only time he admitted being wrong, but I doubt it..There are way too many others that never admit to mistakes, elephants and donkeys
Only after he was reminded that the 'PRIVATE' sector was not doing fine. He does tend to pass the buck instead of stating, 'The buck stops here!'
“The private sector is doing fine. Where we're seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government,” President Obama claimed on Friday. His solution to fix the public sector was more government spending.
When people started screaming, Obama clarified his remarks and said “It’s absolutely clear economy is not doing fine,” but he just couldn’t bring himself to disown his statement about the private sector generally doing “fine.” His clarification still asserted that there is “good momentum in the private sector.” But private sector employment growth has fallen in each of the last four months, reaching a pitiful 82,000 in May.
President Obama is also wrong about his other claim that state and local governments are doing poorly relative to the private sector. The only group of workers “doing just fine” is federal government employees, where employment has increased by 4 percent since the start of the recession.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion...obama/#ixzz1ykzEgYl3
There is nothing wrong with calling attention to the facts.
If you got ready to move into a new house and, when you opened the door to move your stuff in, you saw the previous occupants had trashed the place -- it's a reasonable assumption that you didn't do it. It might take a while to clean up, though.
Some hypothetical conversations:
Q. Hi! We're your neighbors. When might we come to visit?
A. Not anytime soon. The previous occupants trashed the place, and I have a lot of cleaning up to do.
Q. I've noticed you've been carrying a lot of stuff out of your house. I thought you were moving in?
A. We are, but the previous occupants trashed the place, and I have a lot of their mess they left behind to get rid of.
Q. I haven't seen much of you lately. Have you been ill?
A. No, I've just been very busy. The previous occupants trashed the place, and it wasn't until I cleaned up their mess that I really saw how much damage they did do. I'm going be busy for quite a while fixing what they broke.
And on and on and on. Plenty of blame -- all facts.
You've got to pretty dense to but all that crap. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd wrecked the house in the first place.
I don't care if he goes down in history as long as he just GOES!
There is nothing wrong with calling attention to the facts.
If you got ready to move into a new house and, when you opened the door to move your stuff in, you saw the previous occupants had trashed the place -- it's a reasonable assumption that you didn't do it. It might take a while to clean up, though.
Some hypothetical conversations:
Q. Hi! We're your neighbors. When might we come to visit?
A. Not anytime soon. The previous occupants trashed the place, and I have a lot of cleaning up to do.
Q. I've noticed you've been carrying a lot of stuff out of your house. I thought you were moving in?
A. We are, but the previous occupants trashed the place, and I have a lot of their mess they left behind to get rid of.
Q. I haven't seen much of you lately. Have you been ill?
A. No, I've just been very busy. The previous occupants trashed the place, and it wasn't until I cleaned up their mess that I really saw how much damage they did do. I'm going be busy for quite a while fixing what they broke.
And on and on and on. Plenty of blame -- all facts.
I don't believe I would move into a house that I certainly knew beforehand was trashed. If I did know beforehand that I was buying a house that was trashed then I would have no one to blame but myself now would I? As far as the neighbors they would probably want to know if you wanted a little "Whine to go with your cheese"
I don't care if he goes down in history as long as he just GOES!
Half black. I can't stand an idiot in the WH, no matter what color he/she is.
There is nothing wrong with calling attention to the facts.
If you got ready to move into a new house and, when you opened the door to move your stuff in, you saw the previous occupants had trashed the place -- it's a reasonable assumption that you didn't do it. It might take a while to clean up, though.
Some hypothetical conversations:
Q. Hi! We're your neighbors. When might we come to visit?
A. Not anytime soon. The previous occupants trashed the place, and I have a lot of cleaning up to do.
Q. I've noticed you've been carrying a lot of stuff out of your house. I thought you were moving in?
A. We are, but the previous occupants trashed the place, and I have a lot of their mess they left behind to get rid of.
Q. I haven't seen much of you lately. Have you been ill?
A. No, I've just been very busy. The previous occupants trashed the place, and it wasn't until I cleaned up their mess that I really saw how much damage they did do. I'm going be busy for quite a while fixing what they broke.
And on and on and on. Plenty of blame -- all facts.
I don't believe I would move into a house that I certainly knew beforehand was trashed. If I did know beforehand that I was buying a house that was trashed then I would have no one to blame but myself now would I? As far as the neighbors they would probably want to know if you wanted a little "Whine to go with your cheese"
No, thank you. Cheese causes you to fart -- like your brain just did.
See, you don't have a valid argument. So, you make stuff up and argue against that. Typical strawman tactic.
If you had read "when you opened the door to move your stuff in" you should understand that. Just like when I moved into my house, I didn't know the previous owners had torn out the back wall of a bedroom closet to replace a heating duct required by FHA to complete the loan. That was after I had done my due diligence inspection. So, yes, you can agree to buy a house that is not torn up, then find out later that it has been torn up. Thinking people would understand that.
Lay off the cheese and your brain won't fart so much.
No, thank you. Cheese causes you to fart -- like your brain just did.
See, you don't have a valid argument. So, you make stuff up and argue against that. Typical strawman tactic.
If you had read "when you opened the door to move your stuff in" you should understand that. Just like when I moved into my house, I didn't know the previous owners had torn out the back wall of a bedroom closet to replace a heating duct required by FHA to complete the loan. That was after I had done my due diligence inspection. So, yes, you can agree to buy a house that is not torn up, then find out later that it has been torn up. Thinking people would understand that.
Lay off the cheese and your brain won't fart so much.
Since Bush was vilified in the media for his entire 8 years, and if he farted, he made front page news, Obama can only claim he either couldn't read or he's just stupid. Or maybe he's just WRONG.
But of course, the anointed one can never be wrong. Stupid is a given.
You know he’s not a socialist.
Actually, I know no such thing. He spent much of his youth and formative years in the company of communists and various brands of collectivists. His grandfather introduced him to Frank Davis, an old commie, who used his hotdog stand to push pot and cocaine. Not every grand dad introduces you to your future pusher.
You know he’s not a NA*ZI.
True, his brand of national collectivism is more akin to fascism. Like they did for Obama, celebrities went gaga for Mussolini. Irving Berlin – “You’re the tops, you’re the Mussolini!”, or Will Rogers – “Mussolini, What a W*P!”
Even Obama’s introduction to Europeans resembled Benito’s triumphal entry into Berlin. Roman columns, what fascist kitsch!
You know he’s not a Muslim.
I’ll give him that. However, he spent years listening to a preacher who’s hate filled spews would be the envy of any Salifist imam. And, exposed his daughters to his hate America screed.
You know he’s a U.S. citizen.
Yes, sadly!
You know there are no death panels.
Not yet! Never, SCOTUS and God willing!
You know the economy crashed under W.
"Congressman Frank, of course, blamed the financial crisis on the failure adequately to regulate the banks. In this, he is following the traditional Washington practice of blaming others for his own mistakes. For most of his career, Barney Frank was the principal advocate in Congress for using the government's authority to force lower underwriting standards in the business of housing finance. Although he claims to have tried to reverse course as early as 2003, that was the year he made the oft-quoted remark, "I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation toward subsidized housing." Rather than reversing course, he was pressing on when others were beginning to have doubts.
His most successful effort was to impose what were called "affordable housing" requirements on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 1992. Before that time, these two government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) had been required to buy only mortgages that institutional investors would buy--in other words, prime mortgages--but Frank and others thought these standards made it too difficult for low income borrowers to buy homes. The affordable housing law required Fannie and Freddie to meet government quotas when they bought loans from banks and other mortgage originators." http://www.theatlantic.com/bus...using-crisis/249903/
Reductio ad absurdum: Pearl Harbor happened under FDR. FDR was responsible, not the Japanese Imperial Navy. The Korea War happened under Truman. Truman was responsible, not North Korean communists, Soviet pilots flying North Korean jets, or Chinese Communists.
You know the government isn’t any bigger than it was under W.
W ran up a deficit on about $2.2 trillion in 8 years. Obama ran up a $5 trillion deficit in about three years – more efficient?
You know there’s no conspiracy to turn the US communist.
Communist, perhaps not. A European collectivist welfare state en route to a second world nation, YES! That’s where most of the EU nations are headed.
Even the stance is copied!
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What are your thoughts? Does President Obama blame our country's problems on everyone else? Do you know of any time when Obama has said he was wrong about something?
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The horrors of mismanagement by the Bush maladministration are decidedly blameworthy. GWB should not by any means be let off the hook for the disastrous condition he left this country in. Recognizing this historical fact is not the same as shifting blame, except to wingnuts looking for ANY opportunity, however specious, to revise history in a manner that diminishes the abominable performance of Bush and assigns blame for his malignant management of the gummint to President .Obama.
will chuck farley go down in history as the whiniest poster on these forums?!?!?
I think we already have a winner for 'whining'.
I think we already have a winner for 'whining'.
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really?!?! i've never seen obama make a post on these forums.
January 20, 2009:
As all the furnishings including the rug are removed and replaced by the time Obama strode into the Oval Office, I assume that's all his baggage from Chi-town!
I don't care if he goes down in history as long as he just GOES!
Now how did I know you would play your same old tattered race card? Again.
The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate rose from 4.3% in January 2001, peaking at 6.3% in June 2003 and reaching a trough of 4.4% in March 2007. Overall real GDP grew at an average annual rate of 2.5%. Between 2001 and 2005, GDP growth was clocked at 2.8%. The number of jobs created grew by 6.5% on average. The growth in average salaries was 1.2%. Growth in consumer spending was 72% faster than growth in income. Investment in residential real-estate soared, growing 26% faster than average.
I would say those jobs did trickle down. It wasn't until the housing crash that things began to spiral out of control.
right, you didn't post one statistic from the past 6 years. jobs are just trickling down just fine!
Sorry, if it's too much for you to look it up, try Wiki. You are saying the entire 8 years of Bush's term was a failure. In fact, 7 of the 8 were good economic times. How's Obama's record so far? He would be peeing on himself if he could 4.4% unemployment. Since liberals only believe liberals, here is the Messiah's right hand man telling you what I just said. The housing bubble bursting was the cause.
Economist Paul Krugman wrote in 2009: "The prosperity of a few years ago, such as it was — profits were terrific, wages not so much — depended on a huge bubble in housing, which replaced an earlier huge bubble in stocks. And since the housing bubble isn’t coming back, the spending that sustained the economy in the pre-crisis years isn’t coming back either."[73] Niall Ferguson stated that excluding the effect of home equity extraction, the U.S. economy grew at a 1% rate during the Bush years.[74]
President Bush tried to calm turmoil in financial markets on March 17, 2008, by saying that his administration is "on top of the situation" in dealing with the slumping Economy of the United States.[75] Bush and Congress had responded to signs of a slowing economy with the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 on February 13.
so, since bush stared the " Economic Stimulus Act of 2008"... why do all you republicans attribute the "bail out" to obama... shouldn't that money be attributed to bush? and before you say it... no, that money wasn't paid back.. it was just shuffled around into other programs... same money, different name!
Originally Posted by yoda:
so, since bush stared the " Economic Stimulus Act of 2008"... why do all you republicans attribute the "bail out" to obama... shouldn't that money be attributed to bush? and before you say it... no, that money wasn't paid back.. it was just shuffled around into other programs... same money, different name!
That involved the tax rebates from Bush directly to each tax payer. $300 per person below the set income limit. Rebates were phased out for taxpayers withAGI's greater than $75,000 ($150,000 for couples filing jointly) in 2007. A family of four got $1200 dollars. You should remember getting that.
The total cost was projected at $152 billion for 2008. That's chicken feed by Obama's standards. This was not the TARP bailout. That came later.
The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate rose from 4.3% in January 2001, peaking at 6.3% in June 2003 and reaching a trough of 4.4% in March 2007. Overall real GDP grew at an average annual rate of 2.5%. Between 2001 and 2005, GDP growth was clocked at 2.8%. The number of jobs created grew by 6.5% on average. The growth in average salaries was 1.2%. Growth in consumer spending was 72% faster than growth in income. Investment in residential real-estate soared, growing 26% faster than average.
I would say those jobs did trickle down. It wasn't until the housing crash that things began to spiral out of control.
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So salaries (income) grew at less than half the rate of GDP (production)? Who got the rest?
Which accounting for inflation leads to this
Tax the rich -- they are the only ones getting the extra money for producing more stuff!
The conservative Austrian school of economics and and liberal Keynesian school disagree on most things. However, they both agree on one thing --DON'T RAISE TAXES DURING AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN.
Our liberals insist upon the tax increase to meet their sense of Social Justice, no matter the harm t will cause. With the liberal, its always intent over results.