Wish I had said this:

Be glad you didn't say it, it's silly, and just one thing in a long list that people try to use against atheists. It's very simple, no one who doesn't believe in a god/gods, is offended by the mythical being, they are offended by what people do and try to do to others in the name of that mythical being. Why are christians so offended by the gods/beliefs that others have? 

crum you busted best wide open with this post. she replied with nonsense as usual.

In my humble opinion, I don't think that I am offended by the beliefs that others have, but I truly believe that unless you have Jesus in your life, you are not on the right track.  Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and I would not wish that anyone be lost eternally.  I think that most of the Christians here have the same desire, that no one be lost, and want to try to make sure that none are lost.

Praised be Jesus forever!!

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That's perfectly OK for you to think, Nathan.....

It's when you (or any other religious person) tries to force (through laws or rules or just plain harrassment in public) people  that don't believe to be subject to the terms and conditions of the belief that atheists get offended.

You wanna live by an ancient book-You GO boyyyy. You got every right.

But your rights end at my nose no matter how good your intentions are.

"Freedom OF" also means "Freedom FROM."

You mean like "being gay is ok" and anyone who doesn't believe that way is a "homophobe" and should be considered a "hater"?

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I really see nothing wrong with what either of you said... A good Christian wishes to spread the word but not to the point where s/he is forcing his/her beliefs down another's throat... Arrogance is sinful; bigotry  more so... I believe each of us comes to this forum with his/her sets of values and beliefs... In my humble opinion, it would be rare indeed if anyone was converted by anything they read here... For those of us who truly believe, we can only lead others to believe by the example we set here in a public forum... Bullying won't do it... Condemning won't do it... Criticizing won't do it. And almost certainly arrogance, bigotry and hatred won't do it...

And, as Pup said, "Freedom OF" also means "Freedom FROM." 

It seems that no matter how many times it is said, there is still those that just can't comprehend that non believers are not offended by a myth. We are offended by real people who think everyone else should have to abide by the rules and commandments they have chosen for themselves.

To continue on with this belief, that all non believers are offended by your god, even when you have been told over and over that it is not so, is irrational.

In my humble opinion, I don't think that I am offended by the beliefs that others have, but I truly believe that unless you have Jesus in your life, you are not on the right track.  Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and I would not wish that anyone be lost eternally.  I think that most of the Christians here have the same desire, that no one be lost, and want to try to make sure that none are lost.

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I think if anyone is looking for a god they aren't, and shouldn't be, looking here. I'm sure they have family and close real life friends who actually care about them that they could discuss it with too. IMO they won't find anything here that would make them want to convert.

Jank dear, yes, you are offended by God. You keep bringing Him up with your opinion that no one should believe in Him. Where did you obtain that authority of ramming your opinion down everyone’s throat?

You atheist dudes are preaching daily that others should join your church, I believe you call it North Alabama free thinkers. Are the confines of your church the only place you can “think free? The title of your church in itself is ridiculous to begin with. Don’t preach from your rooftops or on here, we are tired of hearing it. If we choose to believe in God we don’t need you to give us permission.

Road Puppy said that freedom of also means freedom from.

Not exactly.  Here is what the first amendment says:  "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Means the government can't establish a national religion, and that my free exercise of religion cannot be prohibited. 

My rights may end at your nose, but my rights include speaking freely in an effort that no souls may be lost eternally.  And answering to the government is no big deal.  Answering to God for my actions, or inactions, here on earth is a big deal.

Praised be Jesus forever!!

That's right, Nathan.

Your right to the free exercise of your religion by law cannot be infringed upon.

I suppose until it becomes what we call "harassment" which last I checked is illegal.

 I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Religion is like a pe nis.

It's OK to have one.

It's OK to be proud of it.

But nobody wants ya to whip it out and start waving it around in public,

and fa cryin' out loud DON'T try to shove it down our children's throats.

Freedom OF also means Freedom FROM.

Not everyone shares your ideology and no matter how hard you try-not everyone ever WILL.

@ Da Bloob:

Like you said. Anyone who tries to force their 'morality' upon others to their detriment is in fact, a "hater."

Here's a neat explanation of why people who do this are called bigots, written by a gay woman:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...bigot_b_2981744.html

You don't think that you're a hater, I suppose because your god justifies the hate. 

Your god, if I remember correctly justified slavery, also.

Substitute the word "Blacks" for ":Homosexuals" and there's no difference.

It's still bigotry.

Such hateful words from the master of hate himself.  Not to mention the perverted analogy to religion.  Insight into a sick mind.

You are one sick individual. I hope no one lets you around any children.

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 Apparently you cherry-pick my responses like you cherry-pick from the bible to suit your predjudices.

Oh? I'm sick?

Please.....DO explain.

Seriously.

DO IT NOW.

AMEN!  AMEN!  AMEN!  No Christian should be offended by the beliefs of another, nor should we be offended by their lifestyle.  However, a believer WILL take the time to tell folks about Jesus Christ and how He died to offer eternal life to everyone.  And, we WILL ask those who do not believe, especially those living a lifestyle which is not Biblical, to consider His sacrifice made just for them, and ask them to reconsider their lack of a saving relationship with Christ.

Someone asked if this meant that we approve of the homosexual lifestyle.  No, that is not what it means.  This means that true Christian believers will not be offended if a person is gay; but, we will tell them that an active lifestyle of homosexuality is an abomination to God -- and is not the way God wants anyone to live.

The same is true of those who kill by abortion, or support killing by abortion.  Christian believers do not look down upon a woman who has an abortion; but, we do hate the abortion, the killing of an innocent life.  A woman, or girl, who has an abortion will not be condemned by God; although they will have to answer for it when they stand before Jesus Christ. 

On the other hand, I would not want to be a person who has become rich by performing abortions.  I believe God has a special place for them.

So, Nathan, right on!  I am happy and blessed when you and I can agree. 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Narcissistic Blowhard (that's you, Bill in case you've forgotten), you could have just said "#3, #1, and #2" and saved us all the agony of re-reading your typical response.

I find you to be quite hypocritical here.  You seem quite offended by the Catholics, New Agers, Liberal Christians, and other Christians not of your particular brand of wackiness.

If I'm to shout at homosexuals about their "abomination", should I also shout at divorced people, divorced people that remarried, and divorced people that didn't remarry their first wife when they were saved?  That's a lot of shouting coming your way.  What does Jesus say about casting stones?

If you have problems with beings that kill by abortion, you must really have a problem with God, who - by your bizarre logic - must kill by abortion somewhere between one-third and half of all pregnancies. 

Shouldn't you be getting your own miserable house in order before you rant at others?

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Crusty, You've stumbled upon Bill's reasoning behind his "Once saved, always saved" (OSAS) theory of salvation... Bill is living a life of sin - as are we humans all... However in his mind he has to believe that once he was saved it will always be so. To admit that he is not forever saved, no matter his deeds, would be to admit he is in error and his whole house of cards collapses...

Stand by for a l-o-n-g diatribe... Possibly a new thread...

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It doesn't matter what billie jz said. God didn't say it and God doesn't

change. God doesn't abide by every screwball whim some people plant

in their psychotic weed bed. The written Word of God isn't negotiable

as some want to believe.

Jank nailed it with concision.  Again.

DF

but......God has to abide by what the pope says. right inviuculeous?

which brings up the question ; say if God disobeyed the pope would God be sent to hell?

Say if the pope said it was ok to do certain nasty things and God threatened destruction for that person.

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Which God are you referring to? The Pope or the bible?

I love to put invikk in the corner.

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Didn't get the answer you wanted? You didn't appreciate the answer you

deserve? Your overly exaggerated intelligence can't deal with your own

type of a pompous smart ass arrogant attitude???