Women and Crime

quote:

Originally posted by drdemo35:

As far as equal rights go, why does a man pay more for auto insurance than a woman of the same age with the same driving record?

quote:

In the same line of thought, think about a woman and man with equal skills and job experience working in the same job position for the same company: many companies still pay women cents to the (man's) dollar.

quote:

Originally posted by drdemo35:

quote:

In the same line of thought, think about a woman and man with equal skills and job experience working in the same job position for the same company: many companies still pay women cents to the (man's) dollar.

Very true but there is an ongoing fight for equal rights so why not equal justice? A woman drowns her kids in the bathtub or runs her car off into the river with her children in it or starves her children to death and if there ever is a conviction it usually doesn't end in the death penalty. Instead there is always someone trying to get her off on insanity. Which, in itself, never made sense to me because in my opinion, anyone that commits a crime against another human being or even another living thing must be insane.

quote:

Originally posted by dbt123:

quote:

Originally posted by drdemo35:

As far as equal rights go, why does a man pay more for auto insurance than a woman of the same age with the same driving record?

_______________________________________

I am not in the insurance business, nor have I done the research to know if your assumption is correct. If indeed it is, I would say that actuary science is your answer. In the same line of thought, think about a woman and man with equal skills and job experience working in the same job position for the same company: many companies still pay women cents to the (man's) dollar.

quote:

Originally posted by stupid people suck:
What is the debate about women and men and the death penalty.We live in the bible belt and the bible say's (an eye for an eye)
It should not matter who did the crime if people lived by the bible as they claim to.

quote:

Originally posted by alacharger:

quote:

Originally posted by drdemo35:

quote:

In the same line of thought, think about a woman and man with equal skills and job experience working in the same job position for the same company: many companies still pay women cents to the (man's) dollar.

Very true but there is an ongoing fight for equal rights so why not equal justice? A woman drowns her kids in the bathtub or runs her car off into the river with her children in it or starves her children to death and if there ever is a conviction it usually doesn't end in the death penalty. Instead there is always someone trying to get her off on insanity. Which, in itself, never made sense to me because in my opinion, anyone that commits a crime against another human being or even another living thing must be insane.

I got to heartily disagree with you on your opinion on insanity. There's lots of people out there who burglarize, rob, assault, rape, and kill other humans that are not even remotely close to insane, or even mentally off. They're just plain and ordinary junkyard dog mean. Lots of people try to rationalize that the bad guys "must be crazy or insane". It's just peoples way of saying, "I really live in a safe little world, and this is just a glitch, an error in somebody's mind. It will not happen again, because people just don't do that IF THEY ARE NORMAL". They need to wake up and smell the coffee....there are lots of people out there who don't meet the clinical or the legal definition of "insane"...but who will cut your throat or shoot you down for what you have in your pockets.

And, in line with the above thinking, it's a lot easier for most people to believe that a mother is insane than to believe that she could overcome her mothering instincts and harm her children. If they would look to the animal world, they would find that although offspring are guarded as best they can, if it comes down to the mother's life or the offspring, the offspring usually are going to die. Case in point...a whitetail deer can and will spontaneously self abort a fetus when a winter is too severe for her to survive carrying the fawn. She also will if a pack of dogs get after her and she feels her life is threatened. Also, a mother rabbit will eat her young if she is lacking the nutrition she needs to survive.

Finally, even in today's culture it's hard to get a conviction to sentence a woman to death. Juries just don't want to be the ones who sentenced a woman to die. Prosecutors are afraid that the jury will hand down a lesser included charge or find them not guilty, so they go for a sentence they feel that they can get (life without possibility of parole).

quote:

Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:

quote:

Originally posted by alacharger:

quote:

Originally posted by drdemo35:

quote:

In the same line of thought, think about a woman and man with equal skills and job experience working in the same job position for the same company: many companies still pay women cents to the (man's) dollar.

Very true but there is an ongoing fight for equal rights so why not equal justice? A woman drowns her kids in the bathtub or runs her car off into the river with her children in it or starves her children to death and if there ever is a conviction it usually doesn't end in the death penalty. Instead there is always someone trying to get her off on insanity. Which, in itself, never made sense to me because in my opinion, anyone that commits a crime against another human being or even another living thing must be insane.

I got to heartily disagree with you on your opinion on insanity. There's lots of people out there who burglarize, rob, assault, rape, and kill other humans that are not even remotely close to insane, or even mentally off. They're just plain and ordinary junkyard dog mean. Lots of people try to rationalize that the bad guys "must be crazy or insane". It's just peoples way of saying, "I really live in a safe little world, and this is just a glitch, an error in somebody's mind. It will not happen again, because people just don't do that IF THEY ARE NORMAL". They need to wake up and smell the coffee....there are lots of people out there who don't meet the clinical or the legal definition of "insane"...but who will cut your throat or shoot you down for what you have in your pockets.

And, in line with the above thinking, it's a lot easier for most people to believe that a mother is insane than to believe that she could overcome her mothering instincts and harm her children. If they would look to the animal world, they would find that although offspring are guarded as best they can, if it comes down to the mother's life or the offspring, the offspring usually are going to die. Case in point...a whitetail deer can and will spontaneously self abort a fetus when a winter is too severe for her to survive carrying the fawn. She also will if a pack of dogs get after her and she feels her life is threatened. Also, a mother rabbit will eat her young if she is lacking the nutrition she needs to survive.

Finally, even in today's culture it's hard to get a conviction to sentence a woman to death. Juries just don't want to be the ones who sentenced a woman to die. Prosecutors are afraid that the jury will hand down a lesser included charge or find them not guilty, so they go for a sentence they feel that they can get (life without possibility of parole).

alacharger, very well thought out reply... thing is we need to make it EASIER to get a conviction on ANYONE who commits ANY crime against a child. Man, woman, next door neighbor... ANYONE who hurts a child should pay even MORE than if they hurt an adult. At least adults can defend themselves somewhat... Children are innocents, in every situation, they are innocents.. We HAVE to prod our lawmakers to make tougher laws so the Andrea Yates, Susan Smiths, and any other woman/man who murders their children to get the needle.

We need to make tougher laws for those who molest innocent, trusting children... we have to prod our elected officials to do their job, not take the easy way out...

Children are our future, we HAVE to protect them at all costs!!!

quote:

Originally posted by stupid people suck:
What is the debate about women and men and the death penalty.We live in the bible belt and the bible say's (an eye for an eye)
It should not matter who did the crime if people lived by the bible as they claim to.