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I'm all for women being man's equal in this country, but I just get sick when I have to register for selected service (and me already being a veteran) for a school loan and a woman doesn't. That is just not fair. Here is my gripe: I've supported women's rights for a long time, but I think it is a double standard to "fight" for your equality, but not willing to fight for your country. You all should be demanding that you have to register for the selected service just like your male counterparts, but I hear nothing from the women's rights groups. I'm about as liberal as they come, so this isn't a conservative, anti-women's rights agenda. I'm saying that you can't have your cake and eat it, too.
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Originally posted by teyates:
You are veteran? and you had to register with selective service? for a school loan?

Oh, and your a liberal. Roll Eyes At least there is one thing in this post that is believable.


I am a veteran. 1996-1998 USS Independence out of Yokosuka, Japan and 1998-2000 USS Paul F. Foster out of Everett, Washington. Your post tells me two things 1)you are not a veteran and 2) you have never filled out a FASFA for or even been to school.
If a young man turns 18 at any time prior to actually attending one of the service academies (like the U.S. Naval Academy), he is required to register. If he turns 18 while attending, he does not have to register. If he leaves the Academy and active military duty prior to his 26th birthday, he will be required to register then.
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Originally posted by Zombie 9tails:
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Originally posted by teyates:
You are veteran? and you had to register with selective service? for a school loan?

Oh, and your a liberal. Roll Eyes At least there is one thing in this post that is believable.


I am a veteran. 1996-1998 USS Independence out of Yokosuka, Japan and 1998-2000 USS Paul F. Foster out of Everett, Washington. Your post tells me two things 1)you are not a veteran and 2) you have never filled out a FASFA for or even been to school.


It's FAFSA.

How old were you when you joined? Something smells fishy here. BTW - I'm not sure you could enter the service without having registered with selective service. I'm pretty sure the law is that you have to register before your 18th birthday. I recently went to work as a government contractor and had to provide my selective service number before I could recieve the offer letter.
If you failed to register with Selective Service, Section 12(g) of the Military Selective Service Act allows non-registrants to receive benefits under specific conditions. As a veteran, or part-time National Guard or Reservist, you satisfy those conditions with your DD Form 214 showing the dates of your military service, or a current military ID card if still on active duty or a member of the National Guard and Reserves. These documents serve as evidence that your failure to register was not knowing and willful. Therefore, men who served on full-time active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces should not be denied student financial aid, loans, or grants; vocational training under WIA; government employment; and security clearances, on the basis of their failure to register with Selective Service. As long as you have proof of your active duty military service, such as your DD 214, or current military ID card if still on active duty or a member of the National Guard or Reserves, your subsequent failure to register should not be a bar to any benefits or programs, contingent upon registration compliance, for which you are otherwise qualified.

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I would talk with the VA rep for the college/university you are attending.
Since the FAFSA only asks if you registered to enable it to send the info for you if you have not, what's the problem?
It also has a question as to whether you are a veteran, to determine you status of dependent or not. Also if you are older than 23, you are automatically considered an independent.
I fill one out every year for my son until he graduates.


For the original question, women were not considered as at the time, they were not allowed to serve or vote for that matter. They were protected as they have the babies.

The issue of women being exempted was addressed and approved in 1981 by the United States Supreme Court in Rostker v. Goldberg, with the Court holding "The existence of the combat restrictions clearly indicates the basis for Congress' decision to exempt women from registration. The purpose of registration was to prepare for a draft of combat troops. Since women are excluded from combat, Congress concluded that they would not be needed in the event of a draft, and therefore decided not to register them.

That may change when Obama runs out of people for Afghanistan.
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Originally posted by Flyboy70:
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Originally posted by Zombie 9tails:
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Originally posted by teyates:
You are veteran? and you had to register with selective service? for a school loan?

Oh, and your a liberal. Roll Eyes At least there is one thing in this post that is believable.


I am a veteran. 1996-1998 USS Independence out of Yokosuka, Japan and 1998-2000 USS Paul F. Foster out of Everett, Washington. Your post tells me two things 1)you are not a veteran and 2) you have never filled out a FASFA for or even been to school.


It's FAFSA.

How old were you when you joined? Something smells fishy here. BTW - I'm not sure you could enter the service without having registered with selective service. I'm pretty sure the law is that you have to register before your 18th birthday. I recently went to work as a government contractor and had to provide my selective service number before I could recieve the offer letter.


I was 17. Joined on the delayed entry program between my junior and senior year of high school. I was in basic 9 days after graduating high school. BTW, you say something smells fishy because of a typo? Ok, whatever. Anyway, you are missing the point of the post. If we are going to be a society that is more or less gender-blind, shouldn't 18 year old women have the same obligations to their country as men? I would think those that love America would agree. I served with women on the Foster. So, it's not like there isn't a place for women in the military. Kids? Well, some men would be exempt from the draft due to various reasons. It would be the same thing for single mothers.

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