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Mitt says he's sorry:


 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/mitt-romney-video_n_1829455.html?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=091812&utm_medium=email&utm_content=FeatureTitle&utm_term=Daily%20Brief



Indeed, he IS a sorry character who has labeled almost half the citizens in the U.S. as government-dependent parasites:


<<<WASHINGTON -- The overwhelming majority of voters who back President Barack Obama do so because they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing," Mitt Romney told a closed-door gathering of about 30 major donors earlier this year, according to video of the event that has surfaced on the Internet.

 

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"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney says in one clip. "All right -- there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that, that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them. Who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing."

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/mitt-romney-video_n_1829455.html?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=091812&utm_medium=email&utm_content=FeatureTitle&utm_term=Daily%20Brief

 

Ah, yes--a filthy rich candidate for President huddling with other multimillionaires and soliciting campaign funds from them in order to deal with the difficult problem of all those committed voters who want Democrats in power so they can continue to feed at the public trough.

 

More commentary from Romney on the parasitical component of the American populace, this from Mother Jones Magazine, whose ace investigative reporter, David Corn, broke this story:

 

<<<Romney went on: "[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.">>>


See the video for yourself at:  http://www.motherjones.com/pol...y-private-fundraiser


Do we need a president who holds almost half of the citizens of this country in such callous disdain?

I yam what I yam and that's all I yam--but it is enough!

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He spoke the truth, something your president can't seem to do.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_duckies

 

The Wall Street Journal calls non taxpayers Lucky Duckies.  This is not new info, nor is it wrong to point it out.

 

If you're gonna quote someone, do it without lying.  He actually said "my job as a presidential candidate......".  In other words, he's not going to try to win these people over when they are not going to vote for him no matter what.

 

I have come to expect very little out of you Contendah.  Keep up the lying, it fits you well and I'm sure the COC would be proud to have you in their flock.

What he said should have been followed with Jack Nicholson's line from aA Few good Men...."You can't handle the truth", and what he said is the truth.  Forty seven percent of the people in this country are dependent on the government for survival, and it is a ****ed shame.At what point do we exceed the capacity to provide for the other half?  I think by the end of this president's next term, we will have reached it.  Drastic changes are on the horizon for the multitude of people in this country.  We are all going to be paying much higher taxes.  We are not going to see any relief from the high gas prices.  Even today FedEx is saying that the recovery as described by the current administration does not appear to be present in the real world.  What Romney said was the truth and the truth hurts, especially if you are one of the 47%, and he is right he can't worry about them and try to garner their vote.  you could dig up Hitler and run him on the Democratic ticket, put a Union button on him, and have him promise extra entitlements, and that 47% would break their neck trying to get to the polls to vote for him.

One can sit all day and point fingers, but we both know it is just as much fault of Dems as it is Rpeublicans. The problem as I see it, is that after 3.5 years, Obama refuses to lay claim to any of the mess which he has prolonged.  Nothing in reality is improving, and the only answers out of Washington is that we must raise taxes on those who are already paying them. If you ran your household like this you could not survive.  When one sees that they cannot continue to make their financial obligations they should try to trim things out until things are better, but this never occurs to either party. At least the Republicans did present a budget which could help, and it was refused to even be looked at by Harry Reid and company.

You cannot tell me that the people out there on entitlements are all to sick, too frail, or not intelligent enough to work. Not all of of them, yet the system is refusing to sperate the wheat from the chaff. The only answer in Obama's plan is to raise my taxes.

I may be the only one that feels this way now, but soon your tax bracket will be the target, because they never stop trying to figure out a way to get more, and sooner or later you will be their crosshairs.

Obama has done little of anything he promised. Oh wait, he did fix the Dont Ask Dont Tell situation....that was sometihng that really affects all Americans.  We are still in a war, with no end in sight.  Our relations in the ME are no better, desite the fact that we were gonna "sit down and talk to ArminADinnerJacket" and iron out our problems.  Race relations are as bad as I have ever seen them.  Unemployment is higher.  Gas prices are higher. Tax rates are expected to balloon next year for a large percentage of Americans. The healthcare system is on pins and needles and has absolutely no idea what the future holds.

His time has come, and he has not succeeded. Time to move over and let someone else give a turn at the wheel. they couldn't do much worse.

 

Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

He spoke the truth, something your president can't seem to do.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_duckies

 

The Wall Street Journal calls non taxpayers Lucky Duckies.  This is not new info, nor is it wrong to point it out.

 

 

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What kind of duckies does the Wall Street Journal call these large U.S. corporations who paid NO federal income tax in 2008-2011?

 

http://www.motherjones.com/moj...ompanies-politicians

 

Between 2008 and 2011, 26 major American corporations paid no net federal income taxes despite bringing in billions in profits, according to a new report (PDF) from the nonprofit research group Citizens for Tax Justice. CTJ calculates that if the companies had paid the full 35 percent corporate tax rate, they would have put more than $78 billion into government coffers.

Here's a look at the 10 most profitable tax evaders and the politicians their CEOs, employees, and PACs give the most money to.


Verizon Communications
Profits: $19.8 billion    Effective tax rate: -3.8%

 

General Electric 
Profits: $19.6 billion    Effective tax rate: -18.9%


 Boeing

Profits: $14.8 billion    Effective tax rate:-5.5%
 

NextEra Energy: North America's largest solar and wind power operator, based in Florida
Profits: $8.8 billion    Effective tax rate:-2%
 

American Electric Power: Electric utility based in Columbus, Ohio
Profits: $8.2 billion    Effective tax rate: -6.4%
 

Pacific Gas & Electric: California electrical utility
Profits: $6 billion    Effective tax rate: -8.4%
 

Apache: Houston-based oil and gas company
Profits: $6 billion    Effective tax rate: -0.3%
 

Consolidated Edison: New York energy company
Profits: $5.9 billion    Effective tax rate: -1.3%
  

El Paso: Houston-based energy company that operates the country's largest natural gas pipeline
Profits: $4.6 billion    Effective tax rate: -0.9%
 

CenterPoint Energy: Electric and gas utility company based in Houston
Profits: $3.1 billion    Effective tax rate: -11.3%
 

 Here is the full list of the 26 corporate lucky  duckies:

http://www.ctj.org/pdf/notax2012.pdf

 

 

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Tey sez:

You cannot tell me that the people out there on entitlements are all to sick, too frail, or not intelligent enough to work.

 

Absolutely true ! However, that is not at all the point. First, did you read the article I linked ?

The "problem" is that with the deductions, people making less than $50k just don't have to pay taxes. Now, Tey, I gotta say, I think people who make $50k are actually WORKING, and most of them work hard. I know a lot of people who make that or less (I think the average working person makes a little less than $40k/year actually). Most of these people work hard, in fact, probably the less they make the harder they have to work for it. Whether it is you , or Romney who accuses the working poor of being lazy, shiftless, parasites on society , the implication in and of itself is out of touch to start with, and just an out and out lie , and downright insulting to the moral fabric of our country and to the teachings of Scripture which says all work is honorable. Just because they don't make a lot of money, does not make them "parasites". Unfortunate to be sure, but definitely not parasites.

I hope you don't believe that yourself, but you are trying to toe the company (party) line, because I still think you are a much better man than that. Romney , on the other hand, not so much.

Originally Posted by O No!:

Active duty service members pay no income tax. He just called the brave men and women on active duty in our armed forces parasites! This just goes to show that the man doesn't have any connection to the real world, nor any control of his mouth.

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Apparently to Romney, if you are not a multi-millionaire, you are the scum of the Earth.

What's next " - does Romney have a "Final Solution" for those who aren't rich ?

On the other hand if you are a small business or make more than $250K you are wealthy trash who is cheating the government out of their due.  My problem is that there are many out there who are getting money and are not inclined to work any harder since there is money there and they don't want to lose it.  Of course that is not the case with everyone, just like it is not the case that everyone who makes any money does not pay their fair share of taxes.  I know I pay plenty of taxes and more than my fair share in some cases, yet next year I am looking at an even high tax burden.

Romney is no saint, but at least he has some business sense, and I do believe he would do more to stimulate business than the current POTUS, who in my opinion has done more to stifle growth than to encourage it.

yoda,

what is the difference in the corporate welfare supposedly given by the Bush tax cuts, and the money funneled to companies such as Solyndra (buddies of Obama who squandered millions of government funds on ridiculous projects and then claimed bankrupcy)?

Do you actually for one minute believe that Obama is going to raise the corporate tax rates on companies such as GE?  Not gonna happen.  No, the only people who will get tagged with higher taxes are small business owners and those who are self employed.  Remember, we did not build our buiness, so we owe more back to the government.

Tired of all the crap from all the thieves in Washington.

Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by O No!:

Active duty service members pay no income tax. He just called the brave men and women on active duty in our armed forces parasites! This just goes to show that the man doesn't have any connection to the real world, nor any control of his mouth.

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Apparently to Romney, if you are not a multi-millionaire, you are the scum of the Earth.

What's next " - does Romney have a "Final Solution" for those who aren't rich ?


Surely you can't be that big a fool.

Originally Posted by O No!:

Active duty service members pay no income tax. He just called the brave men and women on active duty in our armed forces parasites! This just goes to show that the man doesn't have any connection to the real world, nor any control of his mouth.

 

WRONG.  Active duty military do pay income tax and Social Security.  They are exempt from income tax only when in a combat zone. Enlisted personnel are exempt from all income tax when in a combat zone while officers have a cap on their combat zone exemption.

Originally Posted by JJ:
Originally Posted by O No!:

Active duty service members pay no income tax. He just called the brave men and women on active duty in our armed forces parasites! This just goes to show that the man doesn't have any connection to the real world, nor any control of his mouth.

 

WRONG.  Active duty military do pay income tax and Social Security.  They are exempt from income tax only when in a combat zone. Enlisted personnel are exempt from all income tax when in a combat zone while officers have a cap on their combat zone exemption.

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Thus, according to Romney's standard, military personnel would oscillate between being parasites (when in a combat zone and exempt from income tax and Social Security tax) and being contributing, hard-working taxpaying citizens (when NOT in a combat zone and not paying these taxes). Seems kinda backward, don't it?  But consider the source.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by JJ:
Originally Posted by O No!:

Active duty service members pay no income tax. He just called the brave men and women on active duty in our armed forces parasites! This just goes to show that the man doesn't have any connection to the real world, nor any control of his mouth.

 

WRONG.  Active duty military do pay income tax and Social Security.  They are exempt from income tax only when in a combat zone. Enlisted personnel are exempt from all income tax when in a combat zone while officers have a cap on their combat zone exemption.

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Thus, according to Romney's standard, military personnel would oscillate between being parasites (when in a combat zone and exempt from income tax and Social Security tax) and being contributing, hard-working taxpaying citizens (when NOT in a combat zone and not paying these taxes). Seems kinda backward, don't it?  But consider the source.

My only purpose in the post was to correct false information. Please don't use my post to make your partisan statements. Personally I don't like either candidate. If a politician's lips are moving they are telling a lie regardless of party.

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Link

 

Thurston Howell Romney

 

Romney, who criticizes President Obama for dividing the nation, divided the nation into two groups: the makers and the moochers. Forty-seven percent of the country, he said, are people “who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to take care of them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it.”

 

This comment suggests a few things. First, it suggests that he really doesn’t know much about the country he inhabits. Who are these freeloaders? Is it the Iraq war veteran who goes to the V.A.? Is it the student getting a loan to go to college? Is it the retiree on Social Security or Medicare?

 

It suggests that Romney doesn’t know much about the culture of America. Yes, the entitlement state has expanded, but America remains one of the hardest-working nations on earth. Americans work longer hours than just about anyone else. Americans believe in work more than almost any other people. Ninety-two percent say that hard work is the key to success, according to a 2009 Pew Research Survey.

 

It says that Romney doesn’t know much about the political culture. Americans haven’t become childlike worshipers of big government. On the contrary, trust in government has declined. The number of people who think government spending promotes social mobility has fallen.


The people who receive the disproportionate share of government spending are not big-government lovers. They are Republicans. They are senior citizens. They are white men with high school degrees. As Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution has noted, the people who have benefited from the entitlements explosion are middle-class workers, more so than the dependent poor.

 

Romney’s comments also reveal that he has lost any sense of the social compact. In 1987, during Ronald Reagan’s second term, 62 percent of Republicans believed that the government has a responsibility to help those who can’t help themselves. Now, according to the Pew Research Center, only 40 percent of Republicans believe that.


The Republican Party, and apparently Mitt Romney, too, has shifted over toward a much more hyperindividualistic and atomistic social view — from the Reaganesque language of common citizenship to the libertarian language of makers and takers. There’s no way the country will trust the Republican Party to reform the welfare state if that party doesn’t have a basic commitment to provide a safety net for those who suffer for no fault of their own.

 

The final thing the comment suggests is that Romney knows nothing about ambition and motivation. The formula he sketches is this: People who are forced to make it on their own have drive. People who receive benefits have dependency.

 

But, of course, no middle-class parent acts as if this is true. Middle-class parents don’t deprive their children of benefits so they can learn to struggle on their own. They shower benefits on their children to give them more opportunities — so they can play travel sports, go on foreign trips and develop more skills.

 

People are motivated when they feel competent. They are motivated when they have more opportunities. Ambition is fired by possibility, not by deprivation, as a tour through the world’s poorest regions makes clear.

 

Sure, there are some government programs that cultivate patterns of dependency in some people. I’d put federal disability payments and unemployment insurance in this category. But, as a description of America today, Romney’s comment is a country-club fantasy. It’s what self-satisfied millionaires say to each other. It reinforces every negative view people have about Romney....

 

 

 

Maybe I missed it, but the only one I read calling the 47% government-dependent parasites was

 Contendah. Rommey did say that they are dependant on the gov't and that appears to be true, that doesn't necessarly mean that most are bad people, but at some time or other they have to move and be employed. There are some people that will always need to be dependant on the gov't for their disabilities and so forth. A lot of people who are on disability have paid into the ssa and ssi.

Mitt Romney spoke the truth. I just hope he stands his ground with liberal jackals. He needs to hold his own and go on the attack with this same point. The days of liberals feeling like all they have to do is intimidate conservatives and they will cower down and back off I hope are over. Conservatives need to stand up for what they believe and I pray Mitt Romney continues to tell it like it is.

Well, hopefully back to the subject at hand and away from the snot throw:

I suggest everybody check your last few years tax returns, and your kids.

IF you got back most, or all of the taxes that were taken out of your paycheck, or if you actually got back more money than you paid in, then YOU (or your kids) are the very people Romney is talking about. 

If that is the case, it is YOU (or your kids), he considers the scum of the earth.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

He spoke the truth, something your president can't seem to do.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_duckies

 

The Wall Street Journal calls non taxpayers Lucky Duckies.  This is not new info, nor is it wrong to point it out.

 

 

____

 

What kind of duckies does the Wall Street Journal call these large U.S. corporations who paid NO federal income tax in 2008-2011?

 

http://www.motherjones.com/moj...ompanies-politicians

 

Between 2008 and 2011, 26 major American corporations paid no net federal income taxes despite bringing in billions in profits, according to a new report (PDF) from the nonprofit research group Citizens for Tax Justice. CTJ calculates that if the companies had paid the full 35 percent corporate tax rate, they would have put more than $78 billion into government coffers.

Here's a look at the 10 most profitable tax evaders and the politicians their CEOs, employees, and PACs give the most money to.


Verizon Communications
Profits: $19.8 billion    Effective tax rate: -3.8%

 

General Electric 
Profits: $19.6 billion    Effective tax rate: -18.9%


 Boeing

Profits: $14.8 billion    Effective tax rate:-5.5%
 

NextEra Energy: North America's largest solar and wind power operator, based in Florida
Profits: $8.8 billion    Effective tax rate:-2%
 

American Electric Power: Electric utility based in Columbus, Ohio
Profits: $8.2 billion    Effective tax rate: -6.4%
 

Pacific Gas & Electric: California electrical utility
Profits: $6 billion    Effective tax rate: -8.4%
 

Apache: Houston-based oil and gas company
Profits: $6 billion    Effective tax rate: -0.3%
 

Consolidated Edison: New York energy company
Profits: $5.9 billion    Effective tax rate: -1.3%
  

El Paso: Houston-based energy company that operates the country's largest natural gas pipeline
Profits: $4.6 billion    Effective tax rate: -0.9%
 

CenterPoint Energy: Electric and gas utility company based in Houston
Profits: $3.1 billion    Effective tax rate: -11.3%
 

 Here is the full list of the 26 corporate lucky  duckies:

http://www.ctj.org/pdf/notax2012.pdf

 

 

If these companies evaded taxes and broke the law why doesn't Eric Holder and the Justice Department prosecute them? Of course they broke no laws but simply took advantage of the credits, loopholes exemptions and other assorted minutiae in the current tax code carved out by their lobbyists and rented politicians of both parties. What a joke.

 

The entire current system of taxation screams out for honest to goodness reform. Reduction if not elimination of the current corporate tax scheme, a simplified flat or graduated income tax with NO deductions, credits etc. or a move to a consumption based tax system.

 

As to what Romney said there is no denying that there is a sizable portion of the electorate that will vote for Obama no matter what as there is a sizable portion who will be anti-Obama no matter what. Why should a candidate waste his time trying to appeal to those people. 

Yeah Kenny, but the Dems tend to forget those little tidbits.  The "tax cuts" affected all people, and cut taxes on EVERYONE, not just the "rich".  They are in for a surprise when those tax cuts expire and it goes up on everyone.  Obama is lying and the sheeple are falling over themselves to get to the trough to feed from his table.

Ah, but someone in the other thread you post this so-called quote on mentioned it was from one of his books. When I included that info, THIS article came up:

 

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/...dreams-of-my-father/

 

Once again, if one can't come up with FACTS to back their position, I guess they think it's OK to lie and send out mass emails full of those lies. And it's so sad that so many people would rather believe those lies than to research it and find out the truth.

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