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On Wednesday’s edition of his eponymous program, MSNBC anchor Martin Bashir and his liberal panel continued their staunch defense of Bill Maher while ripping into Rush Limbaugh. MSNBC contributor and former Democratic National Committee communications chief Karen Finney gave her tortured defense of the media's double standard:

You know, he is a public person. Sandra Fluke is not a public person. Bill Maher is a public person. Sarah Palin is a public person. You could make the argument whether you like what Bill Maher says or not, when you are in the public arena, you do put yourself out there in a way that a private person asked to testify in Congress should not expect to be attacked. [See video below. MP3 audio here.]

So Karen has contradicted herself, saying that Fluke is a random "private citizen" who just happened to be "asked to testify in Congress." In fact it was Democrat Elijah Cummings, the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, who discovered Fluke. His aides heard Fluke speaking at a televised press conference on February 9 at the National Press Club. Private citizens do not have the habit of participating in press conferences at the National Press Club. Secondly, if she was a ‘private citizen’ as Finney claims, it was the Democrats that selected her to "testify," making her a public figure. But even then, her participation was not legitimate congressional testimony, as it was an exchange with a Democratic steering committee, not a duly-constituted congressional panel.

Democratic strategist Julian Epstein chimed in, attempting to distort the Maher comments even further by arguing that:

Bill Maher is not the spiritual leader of the Democratic party as Rush Limbaugh is of the Republican party. Secondly, many Democrats have said that when Bill Maher has used some of the offensive words that he has crossed the line. Third of all, comparing what bill Maher's rift is on Sarah Palin is basically that she is an empty suit when it comes to public policy, and that I think is true and factually based.

Maher may not be the "spiritual leader" of the Democrats, but he makes no bones about his liberal and anti-conservative political sentiments both on his HBO program and when he appears on other televised outlets. What's more, Maher cut a $1-million check to Obama's Super PAC recently, money the Super PAC will not give back, by the way.

What's more, because Maher is a comedian, his comments are supposedly excusable, yet Rush Limbaugh, who on a daily basis makes comedic comments, is beyond the pale? How is that not a double standard?

Liberals have tried to transform Fluke from a seasoned political activist into an apolitical victim of conservative talk radio. To quote Ms. Finney, “we’re not that stupid.”

Below is the relevant transcript:



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Indeed, it is their excuse.

 

Submitted by NC Cop on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:41pm.

 

It's the only one that they can come up with that justifies them turning a blind eye to Maher's vile comments, but allows them to scream bloody murder when Rush says something they don't like. Here's a hint lefties. In all of the news stories I've read and watched about this ridiculous witch hunt, they have no problem repeating what Rush said about this girl, "****". How many of them actually printed or said what Maher called Palin? Now why do you think that is?

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Very good question from the comments section on the site.

There was no congressional testimony. It was a press event organized by Pelosi -- a put up job.

Of course, expecting anything resembling the truth out of MSNBC is rather like expecting the next iteration of Windows to work without the next updates.

 

Ditzy,

What repercussions has Maher experienced, except Alexrod bolting from his show.  People like you paid to see his rant, cant, venom and vile.

 

The Republicans have defended Governor Palin, you just don't go to those sites.  We did excoriate Rush for his boorish statements. We did show the double standards exhibited by the liberals. You can't stand the contrast.  Rush apologized. Maher doubled down on his venom.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Well, Ditzy does admit to a double standard for conservatives and liberals amongst his ilk.


Try again.

The Repubics are free and I encourage them to take whatever action they feel might make Maher change his public descriptions of Palin.  Go ahead. Make his day.  Various groups have made it clear that Limbaugh is not going to get a pass. 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Once more juan you lie. No one said rush should "get a pass".  I did say it was funny to watch you guys twist and turn and post all your false outrage. We've posted examples showing what incredible hypocrites you demogimmes are, and you help prove it more and more with your every post. 


You're confusing partisanship with hypocrisy.

Personally, I dont give a dam about Maher or Limbaugh.  But, watching the response by the Conservatives to an attack on their idol has been hilarious .   Limbaugh has a history of making many ugly comments about woman, even since making his sponsor-induced apology,  yet the Cons can only bleat about Maher attacking Palin, a woman worthy of derision. 

Well, Ditzy does admit to a double standard for conservatives and liberals amongst his ilk.


Ditzy's post:

 

"Try again.

The Repubics are free and I encourage them to take whatever action they feel might make Maher change his public descriptions of Palin.  Go ahead. Make his day.  Various groups have made it clear that Limbaugh is not going to get a pass. "

 

Ditzy,

 

Do liberals spin an arrow to determine who turn it is to double down on dumb comments and you lost(won?).

"Various groups have made it clear that Limbaugh is not going to get a pass."  Various liberal groups, obviously.  Proof of a double standard within their ranks, self proclaimed bigory. Conservatives rarely call for boycotts or people to lose their jobs over statements, vile and otherwise.  That's not our style. Censorship is much more the liberal ethos.

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You just described yourself and the rest of the democrits. Bleating, whining, crying, lying, spinning, twisting, side-stepping, deflecting, redirecting are all you democrits know how to do. There is not one redeeming quality about you democrits.

 

 

Bingo... that would be them and don't forget their favorite word ( FREE)..

 

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

The Repubics are free and I encourage them to take whatever action they feel might make Maher change his public descriptions of Palin.  Go ahead. Make his day.  Various groups have made it clear that Limbaugh is not going to get a pass. "

 

Ditzy,

 

"Various groups have made it clear that Limbaugh is not going to get a pass." 

Various liberal groups, obviously.  Proof of a double standard within their ranks, self proclaimed bigory.

Conservatives rarely call for boycotts or people to lose their jobs over statements, vile and otherwise.  That's not our style. Censorship is much more the liberal ethos.


 


You dont know the definition of censorship. Clear Channel has declared their support for Limbaugh and his opinions.  The pressure is coming from consumers which are free to express their disdain with a boycott of the advertisers, just as LImbaugh is free to express his views and opinions.  But we all know that speech may be free, but not without consequences. 

Originally Posted by BO:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You just described yourself and the rest of the democrits. Bleating, whining, crying, lying, spinning, twisting, side-stepping, deflecting, redirecting are all you democrits know how to do. There is not one redeeming quality about you democrits.

 

 

Bingo... that would be them and don't forget their favorite word ( FREE)..


Once again, I'm not a liberal, I'm just anti-Repubic.

I voted for Ron Paul Tuesday, the only real Conservative running for POUTUS.  I also voted for Roy Moore as a joke, but I guess the jokes on me.  Now, I have to vote Dem for CJ.

Oh really juan? You voted for ron paul? And on which planet do you think any republican reading you believes that?  So now you're "anti-republican"? You posted one time that you were just as much against the dems as the republicans, but of course we knew then that was BS. You need to get a notebook and keep it handy so you can write down and keep up with your lies. 

 

 

 

 

Ah, what can we say about juan except the biden is strong in that one.

Ditzy's post:

"You dont know the definition of censorship. Clear Channel has declared their support for Limbaugh and his opinions.  The pressure is coming from consumers which are free to express their disdain with a boycott of the advertisers, just as LImbaugh is free to express his views and opinions.  But we all know that speech may be free, but not without consequences. "

 

Yes, I know that censorship refers to an act of government.  However, you don't know the meaning of ethos. The pressure is coming from liberal hate groups who are outraged their jurisdiction is being encroached.   

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Oh really juan? You voted for ron paul? And on which planet do you think any republican reading you believes that?  So now you're "anti-republican"? You posted one time that you were just as much against the dems as the republicans, but of course we knew then that was BS. You need to get a notebook and keep it handy so you can write down and keep up with your lies. 

 

 

 

 

Ah, what can we say about juan except the biden is strong in that one.


Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  Thanxs!

Interventor says:

"There was no congressional testimony. It was a press event organized by Pelosi -- a put up job."

 

So, we have a staunch CONSERVATIVE refuting what this BLOG says. If they lied about ONE point, how in the world can we trust ANYTHING they say? Blogs are OPINION based, and can be full of lies. That is why if someone wants to make a point they should cite NEWS sources, not blogs. Blogs are totally meaningless.

Interventor says:

"There was no congressional testimony. It was a press event organized by Pelosi -- a put up job."

 

O No!'s post:

"So, we have a staunch CONSERVATIVE refuting what this BLOG says. If they lied about ONE point, how in the world can we trust ANYTHING they say? Blogs are OPINION based, and can be full of lies. That is why if someone wants to make a point they should cite NEWS sources, not blogs. Blogs are totally meaningless."

 

O No,

 

The maxim "engage brain, before placing mouth in gear," still rings true.  Did you even read the blog?

 

Here is what was posted:

 

"MSNBC contributor and former Democratic National Committee communications chief Karen Finney gave her tortured defense of the media's double standard:

 

You know, he is a public person. Sandra Fluke is not a public person.  Bill Maher is a public person.  Sarah Palin is a public person.   You could make the argument whether you like what Bill Maher says or not, when you are in the public arena,  you do put yourself out there in a way that a private person asked to testify in Congress should not expect to be attacked. "

 

Later, by the blog's author:
"But even then, her participation was not legitimate congressional testimony, as it was an exchange with a Democratic steering committee, not a duly-constituted congressional panel."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/j...-palin#ixzz1pCqKFxR2

 

Got that, Sparky!  The liberal got it wrong.  The conservative blog's author got it right.

 

Of course, you can cite blogs, as long as you check their sources.  Which I regularly do. Many liberal MSMs either bury stories, or cite less than the whole story.

 

 

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

Palin is an ignorant sIut.

Maher is the only person brave enough to face the repercussions for saying so. 

Why dont the Repubics defend Palin, but are defending Limbaugh with the "Maher did it too" defense?

 

Such comments are not called for. Even if you dislike her intensely, Ms Palain has done NOTHING that I am aware of to deserve such an degrading label. You should be ashamed.

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

Palin is an ignorant sIut.

Maher is the only person brave enough to face the repercussions for saying so. 

Why dont the Repubics defend Palin, but are defending Limbaugh with the "Maher did it too" defense?

Your misshapen little troll hero, Bill Maher, brave? Is Englich (misspelled on purpose) a second or third language to you? Say the word "what" swiftly and repeatedly and you might discover just what Bill Maher truly is. What you're saying is that Bill the troll boy understood the passage below, I say not a chance. He's too busy being a fluffer in the p 0 r n business...

 

"There was a time when men were afraid that somebody would reveal some secret of theirs that was unknown to their fellows. Nowadays, they’re afraid that somebody will name what everybody knows. Have all you practical people ever thought that that’s all it would take to blast your whole, big, complex structure, with all your laws and guns – just somebody naming the exact nature of what you’re doing?" -Francisco de Anconia

 

 The uproar over Sandra Fluke is because Rush boorishly stated the obvious. She IS either a ****, a madam/pimp, or simply a leftist TOOL by her OWN testimony. we now KNOW she is a leftist tool. Rush just named the exact nature of what she was doing. Get real. The reason there is no movement for outrage on behalf of Palin or Laura Ingraham is because the things that were said were KNOWN to be a LIE. Tell the TRUTH about a godforsaken Dimocrat however....

Originally Posted by logical:
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

Palin is an ignorant sIut.

Maher is the only person brave enough to face the repercussions for saying so. 

Why dont the Repubics defend Palin, but are defending Limbaugh with the "Maher did it too" defense?

 

Such comments are not called for. Even if you dislike her intensely, Ms Palain has done NOTHING that I am aware of to deserve such an degrading label. You should be ashamed.


I'm just following the example meted out by Limbaugh.  If all my sponsors start dropping me I will make a half-hearted apology. 

O No's reply:

"No, I believe that the sheep who can't think for themselves and therefore form their opinions based solely on the opinions of others, is what has caused any decline in western civilization."

 

Having closed his mind to any outside arguments, O No adopts the liberal elitist line.  "I know best, and eveyone else is a simpleton, only fit to be lead by their betters."

 

Liberals see themselves as the overseers of the rest of us, only fit to be herded and sheared.  That's why they are do disdainful of the limits the Constitution places upon government and insist it should evolve to meet their standards (whims) of the day.  Rather, than a slow painstaking examination of a problem, resolution of a solution, and amendments, if required.

 

Translated, that means they think a small group is smarter than the 300 million of us and should be in charge. As if, a few could be expert in every field, and anticipate changes not dreamt of a few years ago.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

O No's reply:

"No, I believe that the sheep who can't think for themselves and therefore form their opinions based solely on the opinions of others, is what has caused any decline in western civilization."

 

Having closed his mind to any outside arguments, O No adopts the liberal elitist line.  "I know best, and eveyone else is a simpleton, only fit to be lead by their betters."

 

Liberals see themselves as the overseers of the rest of us, only fit to be herded and sheared.  That's why they are do disdainful of the limits the Constitution places upon government and insist it should evolve to meet their standards (whims) of the day.  Rather, than a slow painstaking examination of a problem, resolution of a solution, and amendments, if required.

 

Translated, that means they think a small group is smarter than the 300 million of us and should be in charge. As if, a few could be expert in every field, and anticipate changes not dreamt of a few years ago.

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Wow, Interventor, your inferiority complex must be in overdrive! How you can twist what I said into what you wrote above is more telling about YOUR thought processes than anything else.

 

The Right accuses the left of thinking the way MSNBC tells them to think, while the Left accuses the Right of thinking the way Fox news tells them to think. The Left calls the Right sheep while the Right calls the Left sheep. I am not a sheep for either side. I don't watch either MSNBC or Fox, and I don't read the editorials in the newspaper, and suddenly that makes me an elitist? Really?

 

I have said many times on this board that I don't, nor will I ever, own a TV. I get my local news from my local newspaper, and my national news from the AP raw news site on the internet. This includes just about EVERY news story printed in newspapaers across America. I read the news and form my OWN opinion about it, and according to you, that means I want to be your OVERSEER??!! That means I want to change the constitution??!!

 

Is it an inferiority complex that makes you feel so persecuted by a WOMAN (NOT a "he") who can think for herself and can ONLY be swayed by FACTS rather than the opinions of others? Is it paranoia?

 

Or perhaps it scares you that a person who forms her own opinion without the "benefit" of agenda driven editorials, took the unbiased FACTS and concluded that it is MUCH better to be a liberal than what passes for conservative these days?

 





 

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

O No,

 

Never read inference, where its not indicated, especially to bolster your prejudices.  AP, BTW, is owned by mainly liberal MSM and staffed by same. To assume you receive an unbiased story from their feed is to assume a wolf and a lamb can agree upon lunch.

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Thanks for illustrating my point so perfectly!! You must have heard that on one of your right-wing blogs because it isn't true. The Associated Press is owned by its member newspapers, not MSM or any other liberal organization. Keep listening to the lies from your opinion makers! The more misinformed you are, the more they will be able to control you!

 

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