You debate over...God, Religion, Evolution, Morality,...while WE watch...
You are so easy...
Yet, you don't see us...
And never will...
We laugh...
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quote:Originally posted by CageTheElephant:
You debate over...God, Religion, Evolution, Morality,...while WE watch...
You are so easy...
Yet, you don't see us...
And never will...
We laugh...
quote:Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
Grinning idiots laugh at everything they don't understand. Court jesters make everyone else laugh at the new information that contradicts the Common Wisdom.
Your children won't be laughing. They'll be shoveling #%&t because they hadn't had the proper education, because they will be incapable of critical thinking.
I'm not laughing. This is serious. And certain backwards, anachronistic, clueless fools will continue to laugh as progress rolls on all about them, dragging them reluctantly along.
Who are you calling ants? Who are you calling clueless? I hope it's me, I really do, because I want to wear your reproach as a badge of honor. Tell me it's me.
quote:Originally posted by vplee123:
does this post come with a decoder ring?
quote:By vplee123:
does this post come with a decoder ring?
quote:By The ONE:
Grinning idiots laugh at everything they don't understand. Court jesters make everyone else laugh at the new information that contradicts the Common Wisdom.
Your children won't be laughing. They'll be shoveling #%&t because they hadn't had the proper education, because they will be incapable of critical thinking.
I'm not laughing. This is serious. And certain backwards, anachronistic, clueless fools will continue to laugh as progress rolls on all about them, dragging them reluctantly along.
Who are you calling ants? Who are you calling clueless? I hope it's me, I really do, because I want to wear your reproach as a badge of honor. Tell me it's me.
quote:Originally posted by PKROUSE:
There is a place for religon, and it isn't the school system. I'm not sure if there is a god, but if i want to find out i'll go to church.
quote:Teaching Creation, Intelligent Design and Evolution together does not mean you are teaching Religion.
quote:Originally posted by PKROUSE:
There is a place for religon, and it isn't the school system. I'm not sure if there is a god, but if i want to find out i'll go to church.
quote:Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:quote:Teaching Creation, Intelligent Design and Evolution together does not mean you are teaching Religion.
Stop it! Of course it does. Creationism is a religious premise, nothing more, less, or different. And don't try masking it by calling it "intelligent design" or "creation science". It's all the same thing, and it's all religious.
quote:Teaching that many people believe and accept that Creation started with a "Supreme Being", Deity, God, whatever you wish to use is not teaching a Religion it is putting forth facts.
quote:Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:quote:Teaching that many people believe and accept that Creation started with a "Supreme Being", Deity, God, whatever you wish to use is not teaching a Religion it is putting forth facts.
It's nothing of the sort. Please defend your statement. Your statement is easily fended with this question: Who or what made the Creator? If all things created require a creator, then God requires one as well.
You are not allowed to define god as "uncreated and transcendent of time and space" as those qualities could be attributed to the laws of nature equally. You are not allowed to regress to the point of common ignorance and simply define the answer of that ignorance as God. It's facile. Easy. Beneath God and you.
quote:Originally posted by tinabeth:
gb and Bill,
Your posts are "spot on". I can't understand why there is such hostility and defiance from those who do not choose to accept there is a God, and to me only one God. Other religions are free to worship whomever (Allah, Buddha, etc.), and the atheists can worship a can of worms for all I care, but there is no need for the hostility. They have had the Gospel of Christ put before them - thanks in large part to Bill Gray on these forums - and they still choose to disbelieve, or believe otherwise. So be it. But don't scold, smack talk, whatever you want to call it, the Christians who are proud to defend their God. As for the Separation of Church and State, I grew up in a classroom where the Bible was read everyday and I know for a fact it was a much better world back then. So why was Madalyn O'Hare and the ACLU are fired up to have God removed from our schools? I wish I had realized back then where this ol' world was headed. I am astonished by the fact that so many atheists, nonbelievers, liberals, etc. have so much control in our lives. When and how did we turn our head long enough for this to happen? I pray God has mercy on all of our souls.
quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:quote:Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:quote:Teaching that many people believe and accept that Creation started with a "Supreme Being", Deity, God, whatever you wish to use is not teaching a Religion it is putting forth facts.
It's nothing of the sort. Please defend your statement. Your statement is easily fended with this question: Who or what made the Creator? If all things created require a creator, then God requires one as well.
You are not allowed to define god as "uncreated and transcendent of time and space" as those qualities could be attributed to the laws of nature equally. You are not allowed to regress to the point of common ignorance and simply define the answer of that ignorance as God. It's facile. Easy. Beneath God and you.
Hi Deep,
Since you are a fairly intelligent person, I am sure that you will agree that all things have a cause. Regardless of the phenomenon, something caused it. So, whether you subscribe to the Creation theory or the Big Bang theory -- something had to cause it.
You can say A caused B, and B caused C, and C caused D, ad infinitum. However, going back the other direction -- from D to C to B to A -- what caused A?
If you say that nothing caused A; then A is preexisting -- it always existed. Otherwise something caused it. So, if A had no cause; then A must have always existed. If A always existed, it is preexisting -- and, since it is preexisting, we call that cause God.
Now, you can call it what you like. But, you have to admit that it is preexisting; therefore it is God -- as we define God.
Simple logic -- that even an atheist can understand. However, the atheist will not admit it -- for, if he does, then he will have a God to whom he is accountable. He will no longer be his own god, for the true God does exist. I am sure you can see the dilemma this causes for those who demand to be in total control of their own lives.
But, my Friend, if you will only allow Him to be in control of your life -- you will be amazed at the power and peace found in the Christian life.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
quote:Originally posted by RickyC31:
You speak a lot more than I care to read and I consider myself a Christian. I just wanted to tell ya that you seem to show respect whenever you reply to someone, even if you ramble to much for my liking
This is nothing negative directed at Bill Gray, it is a compliment on him showing others respect. If others do this, it would make this place a lot more informative. Sometimes I feel like I am in a high school hallway all over again. lol
quote:Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
I can only imagine the prayer.... but rock on, Bill! You the Man! AF
quote:Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
Bill's confused... but he rocks. WB
quote:Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
Bill's confused.
TR