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I am sick of people that treat there animals like they are Humans that have the ability to reason. YOur Pet dog, Cat, or Bird will not be in heaven. Yes there will be a representation of animals in heaven but not your dog rex. God Created the animals and breathed life into man. I truley beleive that many Pet owners would save there Pet before they would save a person.
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I am one of those people who love my dogs and cats and yes I do treat them well and they love me for it uncontionally. My animals are better than a lot of people that I have met and yes I would save them before some people that I know. I spent Christmas Eve in Huntsville at the animal er but I lost my little dog any way. I would have spent whatever it cost to have saved her, and yes she will be in heaven if ever there will be an angel in heaven it is my 2 little girls that are there now. God sent them to earth for me and my family and I know that they are there now just waiting on me to get there. Are you going to be there?
i totally agree with him. i have a dog and cat, and though i do enjoy their company, their just animals. ive heard of people paying two or three thousand dollars for a dogs operation, only to have it die 6 months later. but thats not me. not sure what sparked the post above, but it is the truth. hmmm...and it seems as if TAMID50 thinks her former pets are there. interesting..so that would mean that animals live by the same rules as humans getting into heaven no? don't you have to accept christ and worship God to be accepted into heaven? plus you have to be forgiven of your sins right? well ive never been in a church and saw a dog get baptised. so its highly unlikely that your pet is in heaven right now, sorry to bust your bubble.
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Originally posted by thomaswayne0907:
i totally agree with him. i have a dog and cat, and though i do enjoy their company, their just animals. ive heard of people paying two or three thousand dollars for a dogs operation, only to have it die 6 months later. but thats not me. not sure what sparked the post above, but it is the truth. hmmm...and it seems as if TAMID50 thinks her former pets are there. interesting..so that would mean that animals live by the same rules as humans getting into heaven no? don't you have to accept christ and worship God to be accepted into heaven? plus you have to be forgiven of your sins right? well ive never been in a church and saw a dog get baptised. so its highly unlikely that your pet is in heaven right now, sorry to bust your bubble.


Thats a great argument. What brought this up was i put a dog to sleep because i was not going to pay 600 dollars for a medicine for the pet. Also my inlaws look down on me for hunting.
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I am sick of people that treat there animals like they are Humans that have the ability to reason. YOur Pet dog, Cat, or Bird will not be in heaven. Yes there will be a representation of animals in heaven but not your dog rex. God Created the animals and breathed life into man. I truley beleive that many Pet owners would save there Pet before they would save a person.

Please present us pet owners proof of your statements. I have never read anything in the Bible addressing animals myself,so I make no claim of solid knowledge of such. I do know God created all living creatures so why wouldn't He want them in heaven.
its funny that you put logic i qoutation marks like what i said wasnt really logic yet it is. you have a great point though, how does that apply to adopted kids, multiple spouses? ever since getting into church that's the one thing about heaven that bothered me the most..guess we'll all find out one day. until then, my dog doesnt have a soul, thats like saying a fly has a soul, one of those flys that lives only for 24 hours. i enjoy animals, but i dont think of them as people.
Obviously animals don't have an accountable soul. I don't know if they will be with the saved in the afterlife or not.

As for spouses, if you read the Bible, you would know that there will be no marriage in heaven.

As for this earth, I have a feline-American companion that I adopted. He comes first. If my working girl neighbor allows her little fatherless toddler to wander into the street at the same time my cat pulls a bunk, and if I have time to save only one, I will save my own. That's human nature.
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Originally posted by thomaswayne0907:
of course there's no proof, however you can use logic. for example. if you had a dog for 2 years, then had to give it away due to financial issues, then that owner does the same thing, and it happens 6 times. when that dog dies and say it does go to heaven, well who does it stay with? cant stay with them all now can it?


Well now I'm upset!!! That means that I've got to choose which Granny I want to stay with in Heaven!! My mom's mom or my dad's mom...since I can't stay with both??!!
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Originally posted by FirenzeVeritas:
Obviously animals don't have an accountable soul. I don't know if they will be with the saved in the afterlife or not.

As for spouses, if you read the Bible, you would know that there will be no marriage in heaven.

As for this earth, I have a feline-American companion that I adopted. He comes first. If my working girl neighbor allows her little fatherless toddler to wander into the street at the same time my cat pulls a bunk, and if I have time to save only one, I will save my own. That's human nature.


I always figured there were people that felt that way, but I'm surprised to see someone admit. I really think that human life, with some scumbag exceptions, always rises above the quality of animal life. I would hope that if that happened, you'd pay for that through a devastating lawsuit or jail time, but if not, I'd hate to be on the receiving end of that judgement.
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Originally posted by UNAALUM05:
I am sick of people that treat there animals like they are Humans that have the ability to reason. YOur Pet dog, Cat, or Bird will not be in heaven. Yes there will be a representation of animals in heaven but not your dog rex. God Created the animals and breathed life into man. I truley beleive that many Pet owners would save there Pet before they would save a person.

Well then, if we make you sick then just go off somewhere and puke your little wormy head off.
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Originally posted by UNAALUM05:
The difference is christians have always stated that the breath of life is your soul. God did not breathe life into animals. There will be animals in heaven, but you pet rex or cat sophie will not be there.


How do you know? Have you been to Heaven? Were you there when God created animals? You DON"T know, I don't know, and neither does anyone else. We all choose to believe what we want to.

I am reminded of the old Twilight Zone episode. An old mand and his dog died and stated walking up the road to Heaven. They stopped and a place and thought they were outside the pearly gates. The man there said the dog couldn't go in. The old man and dog kept on going until he came across another man, which turned out to be the real Heaven, and they went in together.

I would be like the old man and keep on walking with my pets.
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Originally posted by UNAALUM05:
I am sick of people that treat there animals like they are Humans that have the ability to reason. YOur Pet dog, Cat, or Bird will not be in heaven. Yes there will be a representation of animals in heaven but not your dog rex. God Created the animals and breathed life into man. I truley beleive that many Pet owners would save there Pet before they would save a person.



How the hell does this have any bearing on your life at all.
what if you had an evil dog, a dog like cujo? though i guess he really wasnt evil, he had the rabies, but he was a cold blooded murderer, so would cujo have went to heaven? or would he have went to doggy hell? where all the dogs are chased around with vacuum cleaners.

and anoher note, why are you people getting worked up over someones opinion?
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Originally posted by thomaswayne0907:
what if you had an evil dog, a dog like cujo? though i guess he really wasnt evil, he had the rabies, but he was a cold blooded murderer, so would cujo have went to heaven? or would he have went to doggy hell? where all the dogs are chased around with vacuum cleaners.

and anoher note, why are you people getting worked up over someones opinion?


I don't wanna be the grammar police,but I could understand you a heck of alot better if you'd find that shift key at the beginning of sentences.
dude, i don't want to be the smartness police, but my grammar in my post was not that bad, and me not using a capital letter on my beginning word of a new sentence should not affect the readers ability to understand what is going on. however, punctuation would, i.e. lack of comma, period, etc.....crap, and after reading my post again, how could you be confused with what my statement was?!? it's pretty straight forward i do believe.
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Originally posted by UNAALUM05:
I am sick of people that treat there animals like they are Humans that have the ability to reason. YOur Pet dog, Cat, or Bird will not be in heaven. Yes there will be a representation of animals in heaven but not your dog rex. God Created the animals and breathed life into man. I truley beleive that many Pet owners would save there Pet before they would save a person.
Thanks for clearing that up, God. By the way, I've been wondering how my great-grandmother, grandparents, uncle, and friend are doing up there. How about an update? Thanks in advance.
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Originally posted by TheBaldGuy:
sometime tonight, bill grey will come through here and TELL us all EXACTLY who, what , where, and when any and everything will get to heaven! Wink Cool


har har...you are probably correct on that one.


Har? As in whack har? Are you making fun of Travis the Chimp, too?
Since no one here has yet been to heaven to describe it, I'll give my two cents on what I believe heaven to be like. Has anyone seen 'What Dreams May Come' with Robin Williams? That movie kindof touches on it. Heaven is what you want it to be. If your heaven is a house on a hill surrounded by your dogs and your cats and your children and your grandchildren, then thats what your heaven would be. If your heaven is sitting in the still of the woods hunting (yes I said hunting) for that trophy buck, then thats what your heaven will be (hopefully God will grace you with a nice one ;o)

Some folks need to quit applying earth logic to that which is unearthly.....

Kirk
hey, i said i was sorry for eatin' that woman's face! and i truly am! and if God is forgiving and i accept him, I SITLL CAN'T GET INTO HEAVEN!?!?!
well, in that case i might as well go back to kickin' azzes and eatin' faces!!
****ed if i do, ****ed if i dont! Big Grin
i guess 99% genetic match ain't good enough for God! oh well, back to doin what i do! Big Grin

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